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Yes, we're all agreed the ending is wonky.  Doesn't invalidate what they got right.

I remember liking COLLATERAL but I remember almost no specifics about the film itself. Only that it's one of the few cases I didn't mind the "video look," and the part of the chase sequence at the train station was cut in a really confusing way.

It was shot digital with an open shutter. It has the same effect as those "motion smoothing" televisions of making things look and feel like they were shot on a video camera (associated with being more "real" since people record their real lives with video) rather than film.

Excuse my obliviousness but that what you're talking about sounds similar to boosting up the FPS. Mann's latest flick, Public Enemies, has that odd non-cinematic appearance going for it. I think Collateral was shot at the standard 24 frames per second and I've never noticed the disconnect like I did with Public Enemies.

It's altering the shutter speed, not the FPS, but it has a similar effect. When shooting film, a frame of film is by default exposed for half the time it's in the gate, the other half being used to advance each frame forward. So a frame of film shot at 24fps (i.e. 1/24th of a second per frame) has a shutter speed of 1/48th of a second. This is also known as a 180-degree shutter, since the shutter is a spinning disc and the shutter angle is how much of the disc is open to allow light through.

Because digital doesn't have physical media to physically move, it doesn't need to close the shutter for any longer than the equivalent of a couple degrees, so you can have effectively a 360-degree shutter, or 1/24th second exposure per 1/24th sec frame. Longer exposure means more motion blur per frame, which makes it feel something like having a higher framerate capturing the motion.

PUBLIC ENEMIES was shot at 24fps just like COLLATERAL was. But the style feels appropriate for COLLATERAL and not for PUBLIC ENEMIES (and also the effect is less pronounced in darker imagery).

Lol

let me give it a try, and correct me if I get it wrong...if you shoot 24 fps with a video camera, but your shutter is set at 1/24th; you'll have that video look that you see in Public Enemies.  If you change your shutter to 1/48th, you'd get the more cinematic look.  Every Video camera, even the Red One, has a scanning rate for the sensor; which is essentially expressed in FPS; and they have a shutter speed setting.  The shutter speed is completely independent from the FPS.  It's confusing at first, but once you get a little into it, it begins to make sense both practically and mathematically. 

In film, you have both FPS and shutter angle.  And shutter angle is a whole 'nother can of worms...

Thematically lovely. Logically preposterous. Cruise's last hit happens to be a personal acquaintance of the man he happened to choose to drive him. That man wrestles a gun away from a cop, escapes that cop, catches up before the target is murdered, AND outguns the professional assassin.

I thought he explained it pretty well too.  Just seems like from the Jackie Chan image that someone was still confused...  So I tried to explain it a different way for Kyle's sake.  Whether I did or not is up for debate...

Let's see if this works.

: dorkman : (without the spaces)

Holden, that's fucking genius! Thankfully, there's a 'Preview reply' button as having that much awesomness on the one page may splode the internet

(although, the pic is that big, it would probably go onto the next page but I just couldn't take that chance, dammit!)

: holden :

I thought it was fitting.