Gregory Harbin wrote:
So you have the same complaint about Empire? According to the first film, Vader is an evil guy who killed Luke's father. In the second one, we discover that he actually IS Luke's father. The only way you can reconcile that is to forget what you had assumed after watching the first one, and believe something that makes sense in light of what comes later.
But this is explained, is a form of new information, and most importantly, doesn't violate the established rules of the story universe.
There is no rule in evidence that says that someone can't be someone else's father in Star Wars.
Likewise, there are no rules that state that the scenario I posted a couple days ago -- that Neo was actually an unwitting mole for the machines -- could not have been the case, which is more akin to discovering Vader is Luke's father. It's new information that can exist without having to alter a fundamental established nature of the story universe.
By contrast, there are very clear rules representing the distinction between the Matrix -- which is not real, and someone who knows that does not need to obey the rules -- and the real world -- which is, by definition, real, and there is no apparent way to bend the rules.
You're essentially arguing that it would make perfect sense for someone who plays a Spider-man videogame to suddenly start using Spider-man's powers in the real world. The One has powers because the Matrix is a video game. It is a program that can be hacked. That doesn't translate to having powers outside of the game, which as far as we are ever told is not a program and can not be hacked.
If the story wants to start breaking its own rules, it had better be ready to explain why those rules don't apply instead of just pretending that one follows logically from the other. Your argument -- that "Neo is special" represents the second set of magic beans -- is wrong. There is nothing that says that someone cannot be special within the Matrix, and in fact it follows easily within the concept of "world is videogame" that some players will be better than others and some will figure out the cheat-codes. But it does not in any way follow logically that he should then also be special in the real world, and if the filmmakers want to make that leap, they need to hold my hand if they expect me to make it with them.
And as I feel I've made relatively clear, my problem is less that the films broke the rules, than it is with the fact that they -- and their apologists -- refuse to even acknowledge that they broke the rules and come up with all kinds of convoluted theories and "thought experiments" to hand-wave it away.
The Matrix is a place where you can have powers. The real world is not, and I won't just accept it if someone starts using powers in the real world. The story needs to at least meet me halfway and take maybe five minutes to fucking explain.
Any fucking justification at all. Any single thing that has been brought up in this thread might have sufficed. But they don't even try.
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