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I guess now we know who done it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWzZM67o2jE

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Just finished syncing this up to my "Special Edition" Star Wars copy (the only original version I have is on VHS and I currently do not have a functioning VCR). Actually it worked pretty well because you guys did mention a lot about the SE changes. No matter how many times I see the SE version, the original is still what I see in my head.

I grew up on Star Wars and saw this first movie in the theater with my grandmother when I was 4 years old and I still remember going, but don't remember anything about being there. Empire and Return I remember much better - I still have the Emperor's Elite Guard figure and hang card that I bought coming out of RotJ with my dad since they were my favorite new character design from the movie (and the Imperial Shuttle is still my favorite ship).

In 4th or 5th grade my friend's father was the first person I knew with a VCR and he had purchased Star Wars (for what I think was over $100 back in the early eighties) and we watched it all the time.

Great job on the commentary - A lot of fun discussion and it was the first time I heard of RetCon - but I'm well aware of the concept, especially in the Star Wars universe.

One note from the SE- R5-D4 (the red robot in the Uncle Owen/Jawa scene) is still shown parked next to Artoo in the one shot even though he had moved forward to be purchased. I remember picking this oversight out when I was a kid - I guess Lucas was too busy with chicken-footed dewbacks and getting Han to step on Jabba's tail to fix this one.

Really enjoying watching these movies again with you guys in my ears.

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I was just thinking... In ESB SE Lucas replaces Boba Fett's voice to match Jango Fett for some RetCon. In SW SE he leaves the stormtroopers voices (there's one. Set for stun.) alone. I know in your commentary you said that you felt that ST were a blend of clones and enlisted men. Do you think Lucas is confirming this, or was this change not on his radar? Personally, I don't think he thought that deeply about it.

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Huh. Interesting observation. I think he didn't think about it too hard.

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I got Damnation Alley for Christmas, didn't get around to watching it till last week. It was THAT bad,... but it wasn't  THAT great either. It was ok if you just watch it as a road trip movie, but there is no way it should cost $17mil, maybe half that.

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DiF is not done with Star Wars, there's one more film to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ezeYJUz-84

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RLM has just released a commentary, not had the chance to listen yet - just thought I'd let you guys know.

http://redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/albu … commentary

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I've heard it - it's okay. I laughed a few times. I think Mike is trying to raise funds for his movie, hence these commentary tracks. 2 hours of geek humour.

not long to go now...

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I had the exact same reaction as thewalkindude00. I watched the whole series in high school, having borrowed the DVDs from a friend of mine. I enjoyed it, but I didn't get it. It was only this summer that I hied myself down to my local used media store and got VHS copies and watched them, and I was blown away. I expected to be more engaged, since I wouldn't be pulled out by nineties effects every five seconds, but it really showed me how crucial good editing is to a film.

And how crucial Han shooting first is. I shall now join in with the frothing of the mouth over this.

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Avant1963 wrote:

I was just thinking... In ESB SE Lucas replaces Boba Fett's voice to match Jango Fett for some RetCon. In SW SE he leaves the stormtroopers voices (there's one. Set for stun.) alone. I know in your commentary you said that you felt that ST were a blend of clones and enlisted men. Do you think Lucas is confirming this, or was this change not on his radar? Personally, I don't think he thought that deeply about it.

I don't think during the making of Star Wars Lucas had the idea that they were clones at all. I don't think you need clones if you keep to the three film model.

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A thought occurred to me whilst I'm on this current Star Wars kick - overall the soundtrack for Star Wars is superior to those of ESB and ROTJ. That's not to put down the others in any way, but in terms of number of superb and memorable themes, I think Star Wars comes out on top. Granted, ESB has the Imperial March and the Han/Leia romance theme is good, and there are a few other great tracks, but whenever I start the Star Wars soundtrack I find myself easily identifying the scene playing and it readily conjures the visuals in a way that I can't seem to do with ESB and ROTJ (apart from at various very obvious bits like in ROTJ when the fleet comes out of hyperspace and approaches the Death Star) - even the trash compactor part is great.

Plus, it has the throne room track, which is just divine.

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Binary Sunset. Tears every time.

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I've got a thing for the short but sweet Asteroid Field track.

though nothing compares to the score for the trench run in Star Wars.

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So Obi Wan Kenobi can understand wookie-speak. First there's the fact that he's talking with Chewie in the cantina and then he nods in response when Chewbacca makes noises after he says "who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" Which leads me to wonder what Chewie says at that moment.

But then, given how everyone in the movie can interact with Chewbacca and no-one asks for a translation, I'm inclined to think that everyone understands the wookiee language. And I'd extend that to droid beeps as well (to cover what Trey says about him not buying that Han can understand the droid doing repairs on the Falcon in ESB).

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Behind the curtain (and daring to suppose I know anything about Star Wars that isn't common knowledge here...)

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A gallery of Star Wars posters.

The Italian and Russian ones are particularly mad:

http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/img3741-598x835.jpg
http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/img3841-598x907.jpg

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I don't know how Russians and Polish people can tell insane movies from normal ones based on their posters.

Also, this is amazing. Never seen this one before.

http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/img3761-598x839.jpg

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Teague wrote:

I don't know how Russians and Polish people can tell insane movies from normal ones based on their posters.

During the communist era we didn't  big_smile

Back then we had our own custom posters for almost all foreign movies. Now we get the generic ones (the 1997 Special Edition theatrical release in Poland had the standard US posters).

There's another gallery here.

These two come from Poland:
http://www.filmweb.pl/Gwiezdne.Wojny/po … er-7376767
http://www.filmweb.pl/Gwiezdne.Wojny/po … er-6940998

Nowadays, only some arthouse cinemas in Poland occasionally commission custom posters.

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I totally wanna see the movie based off this poster:http://www.filmweb.pl/Gwiezdne.Wojny/posters#poster-7376767-fullscreen

I'm picturing something like Pulp Fiction meets the early 00's era teen animation (Digimon, Beyblades, pokemon, yu-gi-oh etc, Yes this the generation I grew up in, why do you ask? tongue)

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

I totally wanna see the movie based off this poster:http://www.filmweb.pl/Gwiezdne.Wojny/posters#poster-7376767-fullscreen

I'm picturing something like Pulp Fiction meets the early 00's era teen animation (Digimon, Beyblades, pokemon, yu-gi-oh etc, Yes this the generation I grew up in, why do you ask? tongue)

That's one of those posters where I want to ask the artist, "have you actually seen the movie?"

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Also, I notice that, in this Italian one, Leia has been coloured pink and Luke blue:

http://1.fwcdn.pl/po/07/59/759/7382408.3.jpg

It's as if they didn't expect people to know who was the boy and who was the girl without colour-coding.

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fcw wrote:

That's one of those posters where I want to ask the artist, "have you actually seen the movie?"

I'm pretty sure that the author of this poster did not. He even turned "Kershner" into "Wershner".

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Marty J wrote:
fcw wrote:

That's one of those posters where I want to ask the artist, "have you actually seen the movie?"

I'm pretty sure that the author of this poster did not.


10! 9! 8!...Why are we counting down?...7! 6! 5!...I don't really know.... 4! 3! 2! ... What do you mean you don't really know? ...1! Start. *Crickets*

Well all right then.

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What's funny about the Russian one is that the tagline at the bottom reads: "A Space Western", as that's I guess the closest way they're able to classify it for their audience.

Also this one is fucking rad: http://1.fwcdn.pl/po/07/59/759/7218249.3.jpg

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Hot damn, I want that thing 5 foot wide mounted on my wall. That is gorgeous.

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