I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds like this applies.

I know I really ought to know better but this looks like it might actually be kinda cool.

I'm not defending them, I'm just wondering why anyone thought it would be good in the first place, thereby having expectations to disappoint.

Which you did explain...sorta, so thank you

gap it- shut yo face woman
hard- my grade 12 chem35AP diploma exam
bots- mindless drones of the peasant class
steaze- a semi transparent fluid not typically discussed in polite conversation or mixed company
nek minnit- I believe this one is listed on page 213 of the karma sutra

*I take no responsibility for anything I said here. It was all typed while under severe sleep depravation and ensuing loopiness

If I can I'm definitely going 2D. I got stuck with 3d when I went to the Avengers and it, well,...it was lame.

/Adds to list of stuff to read.

Otherland series by Tad Williams. Really cool sci-fi/fantasy series
War of The Flowers by Tad Williams. Modernizing fairies. I really enjoyed it.
Wicked by Gregory Maguire.

And that pretty much sums up my reading I'd recommend from the last 3 years.

I'd seen the that second one before, and the first one pretty cool looking and had some neat ideas (As much as a fake trailer like that can)... but I think I'm starting to turn into a douchebag artist...cause I'm reaaaallly starting to get sick of these 1-2 min fake trailers or just short films that don't actually accomplish anything other than get you to go "Man, the actual thing of that would be so frickin awsome!"

Kinda goes along with the webseries and other threads of the last couple days. Am I the only one really feeling this lately?

But anyways, they're both pretty technically awesome...and that's about all I can say, other than, I really want to see the full movie of that first one.

Zack Snyder as director and I am so there.

I'll play the douchebag here and say that this is probably the reason why people make those types of movies, because they don't see that every day. If I wanted to watch a movie about what I see everyday, I would just go live my life.

/end douchebag mode

Otherwise I pretty much agree, and I'll have to check out The Horseman. Although you seem pretty focused on the action genre as the pinnacle for what indie guys should be making. What about like, horror or sci-fi? (I'm pretty sure a good indie team could make a pretty solid The Thing)

I was talking on a more basic story and character level as far as what you'd be able to get away with. What I posted above was much more of a gut reaction sort of feeling immediately after I watched the movie, but taking a bit of time to think about it, I don't think you'd have to alter as much as I originally thought.

I think the major issue with it is that a modern audience expects a certain depth to a character and a story that I don't think EFNY inherently displays. From the very outset it's a very 1D story, as are the characters for the most part. There's very little going on that isn't just right there on the surface, and what little is there actually doesn't make any difference. For example Snake's whole "I heard you were dead thing." It never actually becomes a thing, it's just a running gag that doesn't really add anything to his character (Because we never find out why anyone thinks he's dead, or why he isn't actually dead. And it never plays a role in the movie, except as a joke.)

Now don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it, but I think it benefits from being made when it was, so it gets a pass on a lot that stuff. But I think if you tried to make it today, everyone would just look at you and go wtf is this shit?!

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the impression I get looking at it compared to the complaints that people throw at a lot of modern action/genre movies.

And both Precinct 13 and Halloween are next up on the list.

Although I tried watching Dark Star a couple months ago and I couldn't even make it past the 5 minute mark. I'll probably force myself to sit down and watch it, but that doesn't exactly bold well with the whole "We need more of these" idea.

That is awesome to hear. That should be a hell of a thing.