I, too had an arc during this episode. It started with me curled in the fetal position, questioning my worth and ended with me giving DiF a virtual hug. smile

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So, I've been making Down In Front Editions of some of my favorite movies, with custom-designed, sleek looking menus, trailers and DiF commentaries. I'll have to add this one to the list. This is THE perfect movie.

Near the end, DiF talks about how Biff is the only one doing an honest day's work. Actually, it gets pointed out that George caught Biff in a lie about putting on the second coat. Even after all these years, Biff is still a lying, no good scumbag. Also, I'm sure George paid him handsomely for the job, so it's not like he made Biff his bitch, exactly. smile

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If by "stole" you mean "was practically force-fed", then yeah. And you're welcome. smile

Nice bit of reverse psychology there. Nobody leave me an iTunes review, either! Boy, how I hate those.

So, back when you recorded this (one of the few times I was unable to join the live chat), I decided to watch Tron Legacy for the first time. It was streaming on Netflix, through Starz, so I knew the opportunity to essentially watch it for free wouldn't last.

After watching it, I decided that was....fine. Alright. Nothing special. Had its moments. It was at least better than the first one, in that I didn't fall asleep or look at my watch or wish I was doing anything else. However, I've come to realize that both films share a lot of the same problems, in terms of structure, pacing, narrative through-lines and character motivations. What's more, is they share these issues almost verbatim. It's like building a fancy new modern home over the old one, using the same blueprints and doing it right over the original foundation, but being completely unaware that the whole reason you needed to try again in the first place was because the foundation and blueprints were problematic.

One example of this is the Solar Sailor. In both instances, it shows up at about the same time, moves like a snail precisely when time is critical and manages to bring the movie to almost a complete stop. It's weird. For years, I tried to figure out why in the first film, between the few exciting and memorable set pieces, the rest of it seemed so dull, uneventful and forgettable? A friend of mine cracked it for me about a year ago: Though the first film has a score, it's kind of stuffy, old-school and there are big stretches of the film where they just don't use it. It's too quiet and stale.

The sequel at least gets that right this time. Daft Punk's score, at least to me, is ultimately the best thing about this film. For being mostly electronic, it feels so alive, passionate and energetic. I for one will argue that yes, it deserved an Academy Award nomination. Maybe not a win, but at least a nomination.

My other favorite thing about the movie? Olivia Wilde. She played such an interesting character, and looked like she was having fun doing it, which was infectious, I felt. smile

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Heyyyy, this isn't Tron Legacy! SHENANIGANS!!!!

I said it elsewhere, but Tropic Thunder plays like Judd Apatow films for me, even the ones he just produces: Funny once, especially in a crowded theater of people laughing hysterically. But then I watch it again at home by myself....and it's just, flat, awkward and kind of boring. Regardless, RDJ is consistently amazing in this film. He was so good, The Academy HAD TO nominate him for an Oscar, and it's a comedy! They almost never do that these days! smile

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Silent Running is a beautiful and tragic classic, forgotten or dismissed by a generation that likes to watch big, pointy CGI robot aliens punch each other and call it science fiction.

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LOL, I thought it was a comment on how seemingly half-assed and flippant Iron Man 2 was put together. smile

P.S. Glad to see Ryan's review represented here. I have a friend who is a graphic designer (he's done work on Spider-Man 2 promotional material with Dr. Pepper, and ad designs for Blockbuster, and the cover art for the Open Range DVD) and has recently started doing photos and life casts of nude models. Anyway, he loved Iron Man 2 (You think you know someone and then...) and I tried to show him Ryan's video. He had a cable hooked up to a big TV, connected to his iPhone so we could watch the YouTube vid. We got as far as the mention about the old footage of Howard Stark, before there was a connection/download problem and we couldn't watch the rest. He just responded with, "I disagree with pretty much everything that guy said." When the thing about Iron Man getting a new suit design for shallow and unknown reasons came up, he yelled, "IT'S IN THE COMIC!" as if that was the great, big justifier and winner of the argument.

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LOL! That's double-funny because it's raining HERE too!

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I've been advised to stop intermediating, as it's only causing confusion and annoyance on both sides. I apologize and thus, I wash my hands of the mess I've made.

P.S. I'm told they will listen to the Intermission episode, so that's good, right? Maybe at least some new listeners might stem from this. If not for The Intermission, maybe for Down In Front proper.

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I'm afraid so, yeah... Sorry about that. Not my intention. Should you wish to express your point to them directly, their email address is slashfilmcastATgmailDOTcom. Additionally, there's also Twitter:

David Chen: @davechensky
Devindra Hardawar: @devindra
Adam Quigley: @alwayswatching

Despite this particular disagreement, they're a really fun, approachable group. I don't know, maybe you could be a guest on their show. I'm sure they would enjoy talking to you. After all, if they can have Armond White on their podcast not once, but twice, I'm sure your appearance would be just fine. smile

EDITED TO ADD: Really? I've only read the first paragraph so far. Strange. Maybe they've not listened to the episode proper and just going off what I've quoted you from these forums. Either way, the title of the article at least seems to suggest that yes, this is a rebuttal, saying the system doesn't work.

EDITED TO FURTHER ADD: I guess I spoke too soon where I shouldn't have:
"Grossly misinterpreting one of our hosts' points-of-views = not likely to cause me to invite you onto the show :-/

-David"

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I prefer the word "Ninja" in place of "Stealth". smile

Dollhouse and Supernatural are two other examples of shows with preset, 5-year plans. Dollhouse was forced to skip ahead to the end, while Supernatural actually had its "last" episode at the end of season 5, but by then it had become pretty popular, at least in terms of The CW and Smallville was already set to end in a year.

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Heh, thanks. You should see a doctor about that cough, by the way. I know a guy, goes by the name of Submarine. "He's a good man, and thorough." smile

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That's okay, Jimmy. I think she's cute, but at least we both agree that yes, her boobs are nice.

....I can't believe I'm having this conversation, on a message board. smile

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....So, hey Teague....Let's talk. smile

Seriously, though. Three moments. There are three moments that I love in this movie. They are as follows:
1. Bruce Campbell.
2. The birth of Sandman. The effects/animation are quite good, the music in the scene is moving and it's overall touching. For instance, my twin sister was watching the movie for the first time. She has no attachments to this franchise or these characters, but when he tried to reach for his daughter's locket and couldn't grab it, she genuinely went, "Aaawww." Also, she gasped out loud when the engagement ring escaped Peter's grasp earlier.
3. James Franco and the pie. "So good". smile
Most everything else, I can either take or leave, except for the things that make me cry blood tears.

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So are these happening without chat, or just tomorrow? There are 3 of us in there right now. I think I saw a tumbleweed go by.

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Don't tease me like that, Trey! I live in Fort Worth! I'm one hour away from Dallas by train! smile

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"Nazis. You hate 'em, right? I hate 'em myself!"

This was not intended to be done in a Harrison Ford voice. It was actually meant to be done with more of a Michael Keaton impression. I was paraphrasing a line from Beetlejuice, in regards to Sand Worms. smile

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I actually did have that trope ready to go but DiF had relieved me of my duties by that point and they were wrapping up.

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Similar to your problem with "The Grid", there's a downward progression in the track, "Solar Sailer" that bugs me. It's 14 seconds in. I love the tune until just before it repeats each time; that bit of connective music that bridges the end to the start of the loop. I just don't like the sound of those series of notes.

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Fantastic video, Teague. I'm a massive score geek. I collect film and TV scores, particularly rare and bootleg stuff. I've always wanted to be a composer (I have long, bony fingers suited for instruments). Problem is, I can never retain any of the skill and knowledge that comes with playing an instrument and writing music. I tend to just latch on to what sounds good to me and what gets an emotional reaction out of me. At the end of the day, it just boils down to personal preference. I think not having that understanding of music theory and such is probably a good thing, at least for me.

I'm reminded of the video essay Jim Emerson put together on the editing and shooting of a key scene from The Dark Knight, and how it was all wrong/bad. He was so obsessed with the "right way" of doing things, I think he missed out on the momentum of the scene, which to me is more important. Not to mention, I personally never had an issue with knowing where Harvey Dent was located in the back of the police truck in relation to every one/thing else. Why? Two reasons: 1. In all of his shots within the truck, you can see the grating to his right side which allows him to talk to the driver. This implies he is leaning against the wall that is furthest away from The Joker's attacks, and his firepower at the truck supports this. 2. It doesn't ultimately matter. All you need to know is, there's a police truck. Harvey is in the back. The Joker is after the truck/Harvey.

So, while it may not be 100% right, it looks/sounds good enough to me. I'm not suggesting that's what you're doing, I'm just saying it's what your vid reminded me of. It could be the chord progression in "The Grid" is too easy. I'm fine with that. Those series of notes sound good to me and I'm moved by them. My ignorance of music is bliss, I guess. smile

Either way, I like your video. It's very informative. It doesn't change my mind about "The Grid", but I love scores so much, it doesn't have to for me to find the value in it. It's on a subject I'm passionate about and it's well-discussed and helpful.

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