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And seriously, who gives a shit? See, this is the kind of thing that makes me never want to adapt anything ever. Fanbases are typically both extremely vocal, and extremely terrible writers, and don't have a clue about what works well in one medium and what works well in another.

Game of Thrones is pretty much the most impressive adaptation I've ever seen when it comes to juggling an insane sprawling story and making it work in a compressed run-time. And frankly, given how far the quality drops in the last 2 books, I hope the show-runners stray even further from the source material going forward.
I would love if they basically compressed the majority of those 2 books into a single season.

I've actually heard a lot of positive word of mouth around this one. Apparently it's a really solid martial arts flick.

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Dreamworks has pretty much superceded Pixar at this point.
I'm way more excited for How To Train Your Dragon 2 than I have been for any animated movie in like the last 5 years.

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What'd be way cooler is if Kaufman left specific instructions before his death for 30 years in the future, about how to prank the people of the future into thinking he was still alive.

Well, just off-hand, I'd say the whole thing works as a depression metaphor, the idea of being adrift and wanting to retreat away and give-up, and the importance of "planting your feet" back in reality and living your life despite the hardships, because it's worth the ride. As you point out, this whole process is also framed with the rebirth imagery. There's also a theme of cross-cultural connection, we are one humanity. Whether it's the shared moment on the radio, or the different religious relics we prominently see on each country's ship. There's definitely a bit of a religious message running through it actually, with the astronauts transmissions to Houston "in the blind" acting as a form of prayer. "Just because you can't hear them doesn't mean they can't save your life".

I'd need to see it again to dig into it, and you're right, none of this is cutting edge, but I don't think it has to be, and it's definitely there.

I just think what you're describing isn't as interesting for a story set in Space. Space is this giant landscape that makes it ripe for metaphor and larger statements about humanity. Particularly with a movie taking place around the orbit of the entire planet. If you're purely going to use the setting for just a minimalist survival thriller with no larger context or statement, there's no real reason to set it in space in the first place, aside from challenging yourself technically. It becomes just another Open Water or Buried, with just the gimmick of Space being the hostile force around the character instead of water or dirt. I think it's a waste of time to spend 4 years making a photo-real space drama like that with no larger human context and nothing to say.

I think I was the reverse of you, where the 1st trailer made me think it was just gonna what you describe, and then I was pleasantly surprised that the movie was much more humanist and layered than it originally looked.

Well, I strongly disagree. It's a beautiful meditative moment, where in this dark void of space when she's at her lowest point, she's able to get comfort and solace from a human being in a completely different culture and language. This idea of humanity as one entity in a universal sense.

It's exactly the kind of scene you would almost never get in this kind of movie, and it gives the movie a greater weight than just being a procedural space movie with no larger ambitions.

Edit: Also, the short-film on the blu-ray will have the story of the character on the other end, which I'm really curious to see.

In fact, that's my favorite scene in the movie, and elevates it over just being a genre disaster movie.

Also, just an observation, but between Gravity and Europa Report, I'm really loving the resurgence of secular scientists as movie protagonists.

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Ya if that's all the movie is, it looks like a waste of Aranofsky's time. If I had to guess, it's just the studio trying to market to the religious crowd and the actual movie is more daring and interesting, but who knows.

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I'm totally sitting out this debate, but I wanna high-five Fireproof for taking all this rigorous heat. Dorkman's been sitting on like 10 years worth of pent-up arguments for why religion is BS, which are being unleashed here. Not that I disagree with him, but I'd rather see it directed at someone who isn't a super-cool member of the community. Carry on though, I like reading these.

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Honestly, for me the easiest thing that knocks down the notion of a singular god is the fact that damn near every culture for human history has had some form of religious belief, and all of them have been convinced that their belief is the correct one and everyone else is wrong. The idea that somehow we've always been getting it wrong but now SUDDENLY, the bible's got the ultimate truth and is the right one, is ridiculous to me.

I don't begrudge anyone their faith (and in fact really appreciate and like having multiple perspectives here in the FIYH community), but for me personally, it's infinitely more likely that everyone is wrong, than any one particular sect being right and everyone else being wrong.

Whether an all powerful creation-entity of some form exists is an open question that is simply not answerable, since if it doesn't there'd be no evidence of that, and if it does, we are so micro-scale by comparison that we'd have no realistic way of measuring it, at least not until we start exploring the boundaries of the universe.

I'm damn certain though that none of the specific theologies that have developed over the course of human history are accurate, and none of the more modern texts are any more plausible than the roman or greek mythologies of old, they're just as ridiculous and outdated.

The more we learn about the universe the more it is apparent that humanity is an infinitely tiny piece of the larger puzzle, and if there is any creator running the show, they operate at such a larger scale that they certainly don't give a shit about humanity's "sins", or any other human-specific emotional construct that we've happened to develop as a civilization over our measly couple thousand years of existence.

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I was going to say the same thing, it was huge for about 10 years, and now it's almost completely died out.

So I wouldn't worry about it as any sign of cultural decline or anything, every decade horror jumps on another fad until it drives it into the ground. 80s it was slasher movies, 90s it was the self-referential post-modern slasher movies (Scream 1/2/3, I Know What You Did Last Summer), 2000s was torture porn, 2010s it seems to be PG-13 ghost movies.

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It's really grown on me over the past week too. This is actually a movie I wish WAYDM would do, because it almost explicitly does the opposite of everything Dorkman usually complains about in these movies. It's the anti-Prometheus.

There's several key decisions made throughout the movie where you think there will be some big melodramatic argument, and instead, the scientists calmly sit down and rationally come up with the best solution. It's also one of the most pro-science movies I've seen in ages, the message isn't "Space is terrifying", it's "Space is amazing and gaining knowledge is worth dying for".

Also, I can't overstate how great the music is. Bear McCreary is amazing

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Hard Boiled is a staggeringly amazing piece of action film-making. The opening shootout is better than the climax of pretty much any American action film, and then the movie manages to escalate from there multiple times into the insane hospital battle. You know a movie is kicking ass when it's making greats like John McTiernan and James Cameron look weak and lazy by comparison. John Woo's mastery of continuity, editing, and choreography is second to none.

And for those people who say he "lost it", go watch Red Cliff and come back to me. He hasn't lost anything, Hollywood just had no idea what to do with him.

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Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure

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http://www.forafewmoviesmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/europa-report-hd-e1368839458648.jpg

Europa Report is on Netflix now. You guys should watch it. It doesn't pull a Sunshine in the 3rd act.
I'd been curious about this one for a while, a found footage hard-sci-fi movie about a fictional trip to Jupiter to investigate Europa. The verdict? It's really good, but not perfect.

The biggest issue is the movie embraces a non-linear story structure through sections of it, for seemingly no reason. It's a really weird choice that hurts the movie (especially the first 10 minutes, which feel really off-balance as a result), because it under-cuts the tension of a key character moment, for no real benefit. It doesn't kill the movie or anything, but I think if they told it strictly linearly, it could've been great instead of merely really good.

With that out of the way, this is one of the strongest examples of a hard sci-fi space movie I've seen in awhile. For the most part, characters consistently make smart decisions, and behave like scientists. Also, despite what the trailers may suggest, the movie stays pretty cerebral throughout, and doesn't actually ever really turn into a horror movie. It basically just sticks with the fictional mission and them trying to fix problems that happen along the way, which is much appreciated. Actors are all good too, with solid performances all around.

If anything holds the movie back, it's just that it doesn't really end up being ABOUT anything greater than itself. It's a well told found-footage space movie, but nothing more than that. I also kinda wished at times it wasn't restricted by the found footage format, but this is clearly a limitation of the budget, and they make the most of it. Still, it's really admirable to see a movie like this about intelligent scientists who put their lives on the line for the betterment of mankind. It may be kind of Gravity's low-budget cousin this year, but I hope people give it a chance.

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There's going to be a LOT of John Carpenter movies on here I suspect, but James Woods in Vampires has one of my favorite monologues on the subject:

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Rambo calling out the bad guy on his side, before proceeding to kick the ass of the bad guys on the Russian/Vietnamese side.

The best part of that commentary is the group's realization during the rolling spaceship scene that the movie would be fixed and totally awesome if noomi rapace got crushed instead of charlize theron, since Vickers is the only character who isn't a complete idiot.

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I could come up with a solid dozen right now, but let's start with a more obscure one from one of my favorites, from the great Charles Bronson in the Elmore Leonard-written Mr.Majestyk.

"You make sounds like you're a mean little ass-kicker. Only I ain't convinced. You keep talking I'm gonna take your head off"

http://youtu.be/hTx_jDEnvxs?t=55s

Eh, I'm happy for Netflix I guess, as people will inevitably watch these. I'm just so beyond tired of superhero movies/shows. With the way marvel is over-saturating the market, I'm hoping the Superhero genre goes the way of the Western and dies out for a couple decades.

Personally, I wish Netflix would stick more to originals, but it's hard to fault them for this move from a financial standpoint.

The thing with Battleship is that the last 30 minutes is actually super awesome, it's just too little, and way too damn late. That's the annoying mis-calculation the movie makes. Old war veterans having to power up an old battleship and battle aliens because it's the only functioning piece of technology left is an Excellent premise for an Independence Day-style goofy fun blockbuster, I wish someone would make a movie about that. As it is, it's like you're watching this really shitty Michael Bay wannabe for 2 hours, and then suddenly a completely different, actual good movie comes on for half an hour.

Well said, Alex. I don't mean to over-reach and write off minimalism in scores, as I truly do like all kinds. John Carpenter is one of my favorite composers, and he's all about coming up with iconic simple riffs that permeate the entire runtime of his movies. I think it's just something specifically to do with the way action music gets written nowadays, where it just feels like driving background noise and nothing more than that, and it really bugs me lately. I think Zimmer's been guilty of it on several movies, though as you rightfully point out, his imitators are more to blame than the man himself.

There's a whole argument to be had about whether scores should be able to stand alone, or just need to complement the movie in the moment, but just personally, I believe the truly great scores are all able to stand alone. Whether it's orchestral, like Conan the Barbarian, or more minimalist modern like the Social Network, I think you can put those on in the background and appreciate and enjoy them completely removed from their original context. Ultimately though, when it comes to Zimmer, I don't ever go "Man, I feel like listening to the Dark Knight Rises score", or the "man of steel score". I throw on Broken Arrow, or Pirates, or Rango.

Ya, I get what he's doing, but I think his trend-setting has been some of the worst things to ever happen to film music. As a fan of film scores, I would hate the shit out of him, if it wasn't for his amazing 90s stuff (or the occasional bright spot like his "Rango" score) there to show me he's capable of writing awesome stuff, but has just decided to do boring-ass "minimalist" rising strings. You know what, ya, if you whittle your music down to where there's practically nothing to it and it's just 2 notes, it's really easy to do thematic things with them because your theme is almost non-existent. That doesn't impress me, and I'll go one further and say that does not automatically make it fit better for his movies. Some movies, like Dark Knight, that stuff works great, but when I'm watching my sweeping action adventure, I want to FEEL something instead of generic low-strings. I'll always love Zimmer for his 90s stuff, but much like Michael Mann and his recent "shutter crime" phase, I wish he'd get over it already.

Part of this is me still bitter over his Man of Steel score, which I pretty much hate, but ya, when I look to the future of film-scoring, I look at guys like Alexandre Desplat and John Powell over Zimmer at this point.

Idea has a lot of potential (I'm actually kind of shocked it hasn't been tried yet, it makes so much sense), good stuff. I kind of really hate MST3K/rifftrax though, so I'm just not the guy to judge this kind of thing from a comedic POV. In general, I would say in my opinion you're better off focusing the idea on a single thing, which is the "new" element that you're bringing to the table that sets you apart. So I would lose the skits and focus on JUST the mst3k element. The fact that you wanna be short-length episodic is the toughest thing about this, as videogames are sprawling and large, and even MST3K typically tackle feature length movies. When you're dealing with shorter segments, it's tough for the audience to figure out what is going on in the game, which makes it harder to have investment in the jokes (also makes MST3K-style running gags harder). I would say you might be better off trying to pick a single game for an episode, and running an uninterrupted chunk of it for 20 minutes, maybe somewhere from the very opening, as games tend to stack all of their story exposition in the first 30 minutes, which would give you the most material to work with. BDA should post here as this is really his area of expertise more than mine.