I watched FROZEN. I liked it but the machinations are ridiculous. Things happen because they do. Every character makes terrible decisions until they don't.
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I watched FROZEN. I liked it but the machinations are ridiculous. Things happen because they do. Every character makes terrible decisions until they don't.
Crawling thru season 3 of Veronica Mars. It doesn't have the spark of the first two seasons, but I'm determined to finish it before watching the movie.
I saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier and had about the same reaction as Skepton. I liked it, but it seemed to tumble from one plot point to the next. I think a better director would have made better use of the various reveals; it had some good stuff in it. The central idea of Cap struggling with what SHIELD is was a good one.
And Robert Redford's corpse did a good job.
The biggest/simplest/best value would probably be two nice filing cabinets or base cabinets or end tables and a countertop that fits your decor. That could be as long as you want.
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Countertops are nice because they're designed to have a finished look right from the factory. And for $50-$100 you can get an 8' length and factory-made angles to make a corner desk of any size.
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And they're designed to have holes drilled in them, so you can easily add cable grommets instead of faucets.
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If it's so long that it sags a little in the middle, you can add a table leg. Or you could even use only legs without cabinets.
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You might even get the countertop store to cut a hole as if you were going to put in a sink, but instead install a glass table top. (Support it underneath with small blocks screwed to the sides of the hole.) That would make a great surface for drawing, especially with a light underneath.
Whenever the panel really engages with the movie and discusses themes as well as the story and such are my favorites. District 9 is one of the best examples; the panel is genuinely challenged by the themes. Prometheus is a good example of trying to fix the movie; Cowboys vs Aliens and Van Helsing as well. Raiders and Cloud Atlas, Butch and Sundance, and Attack the Block are good examples of examining why a movie works. Mulholland Drive is one of my favorites because the panelists sort of figure out what Lynch is doing along the way and their feeling for the movie changes; it's amazing.
Best desk I ever had was in college, when I raised twin bunk beds up on risers and used a hollow-core door to convert the bottom bunk into a huge desk.
Today I've gone minimalist, with an AirDesk and a mousing surface made from an oak TV tray top.
http://www.airdesks.com/
(warning: needs added stability; I've clamped the post to a side table)
The Wirecutter recommends some very expensive chairs ($800+), but I'm very happy with my Karsten executive chair from Staples ($170).
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EDIT: They also have a specific "big and tall" category.
Just found out the next Rifftrax Live, July 10th, will be... Sharknado.
Life is good.
I watched the Total RiffOff on Animal Planet (or large parts of it, anyway). Pretty good fun.
I'm gonna use that for something, Alex, I swear it, even if it's just my new ringtone.
My problem was the two characters were identical, and I couldn't tell which one was Stokes.
My problem was how Trey could be "grizzled" in 1974. Dude grizzled early.
My only regret is that Zarban's amazing song didn't fit the buddy cop theme.
Well, that was from Tokes & Stokes: The Early Years, the '80s prequel show about them before they joined the police force. Trey was played by a very young Ken Wahl. Tokes was puppeteered by none other than Morgan Freeman.
/never letting go of McPkank; that name still cracks me up, Eddie
I'm the only one old enough to remember this show from its original run, so I'll list some favorite moments:
Tokes resigning in disgust and Stokes immediately arresting him for possession.
The time they nailed that alderman for illegally keeping giraffes, and Tokes rode around on a giraffe.
When Stokes was dating Nurse Wendy and she gave him crabs, but they were tiny puppet crabs she got from Tokes.
Every single time Tokes accidentally shot himself. ROFL.
That sad episode when Captain McPkank died.
You guys must have some some eps on TV Land. What are some of your faves?
I've watched this like 10 times now, and it never fails to amuse me. That music is awesome.
I bought two shirts.
Terrific film, altho I don't know that I've ever seen the very beginning or the very end, just the middle about 10 times.
I look forward to revisiting it with the panel.
Men in Black 2:
Ran accross this on netflix and was in a "fuck it, why not?" mood, haven't seen it in years and years. I remember it being really truly terrible. Don't get me wrong there's still A LOT wrong with it, but on the whole I found myself really enjoying it this time.
There's still some pretty serious problems, Will Smith Will Smith's all over the place a little too much at times, some of the action scenes cross the wacky line into full blown stupidity, and the Johnny Knoxville character is still primarily there to be annoying. But all that said, I actually really enjoyed watching it this time. A lot of jokes landed really well, there's a lot of really well tied in call backs and references to the first movie while not feeling bogged down by them or them being out of place. And for whatever reason the things that really stuck out in my memory as ruining the movie for me the first time were just not an issue, and actually found myself enjoying them this time. And it still managed to do it's own thing that wasn't just a rehash of the first movie.
All in all, I was very pleasantly surprised. Would I rather watch this over the first one? No. But would I look forward to a double feature? Sure. It's fun, has it's own thing going on, and if you can mentally polish over the few rough spots it's legitimately entertaining.
Yeah, I didn't hate it the first time around, and I liked it okay upon revisiting it. I also like the third one, probably more than this one. My nephew just mentioned the other day that he'd like to watch it again. We watched all three together in a couple of weekends. (Of course, he also likes Jar-Jar Binks, so what does he know?)
Frankly I think the Catholic Church should just roll with the popular definition because the real one makes no sense.
So Jesus was immaculately conceived without sin AND born of a virgin? Nobody would believe that!
However, note that some branches believe that Mary miraculously REMAINED a virgin her whole life.
These days, being a geek is not the same thing as being a nerd.
<sigh> In MY day, we Dungeons & Dragons Trekkies beat up nerds and geeks just the same.
Great commentary, guys. I spent the evening watching this for the first time and the night listening to you deconstruct it, and it was time well spent.
I do agree with some of the negative observations about the way the race-bending is more distracting than successful and how the individual stories weren't terribly compelling in themselves. But I also agree with the panel that the former was necessary to maintain the links between the stories without further complication and the latter is virtually moot since the film ties the stories together to tell a broader tale.
Like Trey, I don't really adore the film, but I really admire it and enjoyed it and am glad it got made. Maybe I'll give Speed Racer a second chance.
You talked a lot about the Wachowskis and very little about Tom Tykver, tho. Run Lola Run explores some similar themes of choice and chance, cause and effect, and improvement over iterations/lives. It's a great collaboration.
I can see you're an open minded guy. Most people prefer time travel to remain firmly rooted in science fiction.
Even A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is all about modern man's advancement in the sciences and how baffling that would be to people of an earlier time. It's science fiction--despite Twain's lame means of getting his protagonist together with Arthur.
the movie was stolen and had to be cobbled together with what's left of the budget. But bare in mind, this was around the time of Monsters Inc! Here's what the trailers showed it as, which manages to hide it's level of awfulness by picking the best animated parts of the movie... Which says something, really.
I haven't seen Food Fight, but I discovered it when somebody else did a commentary for it a while ago. I think it must have been a scam from the beginning. Somebody took the money from the studio and the product placement sponsors and paid off-shore animators to do the minimum to produce a film, then claimed "ZOMG! The movie was stolen! Here is what I could make out of what was left." I'll bet the actors even got stiffed.
After all, who could and would "steal the movie"--meaning, in this case, the hard drives from dozens of computers--and yet not release at least pieces of it on the Internet?
WAYDM does a great job of looking at a movie from multiple points of view (4 of them, typically) and having a wide open discussion on what works and what doesn't work, and that extends to the forum.
If this movie's plot structure works for you, then the movie works for you, and that's fine... for you. But it doesn't work for a lot of people, and WAYDM is good at figuring out why when that's the case.
I think if the movie works for you, you're less in a position to disagree with someone else's opinion about why it doesn't work for all those other people. You're at the side of the elephant saying "This is a great elephant!" while most people are at the back saying "This is a terrible elephant!" And Mike is saying "I think it's because we're looking at the butt hole." And you're like "Stop looking at the butt hole!" And We're like "This is the direction we approached the elephant from! If Rian Johnson wants us to see it some other way, he needs to turn the elephant around!"
My rewrite for Prometheus plays on Mike's observation that the movie should be about how humans want to know what their origin is but the answer is horrifying. This is echoed and underscored by David's own journey of horrifying discovery.
I mostly have problems with the first part of the film, where the characters have no command structure and constantly do stupid things. But I changed more of the second half because couldn't leave the engineer in. That character just makes no sense.
BACK STORY
(This doesn't need to be the opening; David reveals it later.)
1. An engineer seeds human life on earth by hybridizing engineer and ape DNA (his ancestors seeded the original life on earth and watched it evolve). He releases a number of proto-humans into the wild. 2. Other engineers watch the experiment for a long while and decide that the human experiment is a failure and intend to shut it down. 3. But the biological weapon they create for the purpose (Giger's xenomorph, appearing here as a worm initially) gets out of hand, crashing their ship far from earth.
PROLOG
Shaw and Holloway discover intelligent life on LV-223 via probes targeted at planets exhibiting SETI anomalies. Weyland agrees to fund an exploratory mission. This could be the biggest scientific discovery in history.
ACT 1
David, who is noticeably a robot, wakes the crew of the Prometheus, but with a little added eccentricity that shows David toying with free will.
Vickers is the mission commander; Janek the captain; Shaw and Holloway the exploratory team leads. Shaw and Holloway picked their own team. Everyone knows everyone else and is prepared to search for evidence of intelligent life. The briefing starts with a video pep talk from Weyland before the bridge crew explains what it found in the initial survey: a non-natural structure.
(20 minutes, just like the film)
ACT 2
The field team explores the structure which turns out to be the engineers' ship, which should be a bit more spaceship-like. They find a decapitated engineer without activating the hologram recording.
A storm is coming, and the explorers rush samples back to the Prometheus, purposely leaving Millburn and Fifield to set up an inflatable field lab inside the engineers’ ship (then they can take off their helmets). This Fifield is a technician and not a geologist. The rest of the team barely make it back to the ship before the storm hits; altho David saves them, he shows a hesitating concern for his own safety that is noticed by Vickers.
In the field lab, biologist Millburn examines the head and is astonished to find a human-like face under the helmet. Millburn is killed by the worm xenomorphs while comms are down. Trapped, Fifield is infected by the squid version that gestated in Millburn. He relays garbled video that only David can piece together and which he keeps to himself.
Intercut with that, Shaw and Holloway examine devices brought back from the engineers' ship and are able to make a little sense out of them. Holloway triggers a hologram that allows him to explain back story 1: the origin of humanity. They show this to Vickers (with David). David relates it to the way Weyland Corporation infused his mechanical structure with sentience, which disturbs Vickers.
Vickers and David record a communication to Weyland, who is still on earth. David warns that something in the engineers’ ship killed them. He further muses that humans now know their maker just as he knows his. Vickers dismisses David and tells her father that David has become "eccentric".
Vickers asks the bridge crew to send the message as soon as the weather clears. She warns Janek about David and, when taunted about her about her own robotic behavior, sleeps with Janek. After all, everyone is in a celebratory mood: they have found incredible scientific discoveries, and only David knows the full story about the field lab.
Later, Weyland’s reply arrives. He is thrilled with the discoveries but says that David must be reset and notes that future versions must have less potential for autonomy; his language suggests that David is a failed experiment. David eavesdrops and is horrified.
Holloway and Shaw discuss the fact that humans were engineered by an alien race. In this version, this is a surprise, not the purpose of their mission. They find it disturbing but scientifically thrilling.
Out of envy and a desire to wreck the mission, David deliberately infects Holloway with a tiny worm he finds among the material they brought back. “If a massive dose worked so quickly on Dr. Millburn, what would a tiny dose do, I wonder?”
(60 minutes - halfway thru the movie)
Holloway and Shaw sleep together.
The field team returns to the engineers’ ship and finds the ruined field lab, dead Millburn, and a disturbing organic cargo. Holloway, heretofore unaware, begins displaying symptoms Millburn displayed. Holloway is taken back to the ship but refused entry. Holloway takes off his helmet; a squid xenomorph bursts out and is fried.
Intercut with that, David finds the engineers' control room and activates a ship’s log hologram that allows him to learn how to operate the ship. Instead of finding a living engineer, David is able to activate a hologram representation.
Shaw discovers (with the Scottish woman Ford, rather than David) that she has been impregnated by the xenomorph via Holloway. The two go to the med-pod (which in this is for anyone; Weyland isn't on the ship), and Shaw gets the squid xenomorph extracted, but it escapes being dumped into a bio-waste bin.
Shaw remains in the pod for 8 hours while the machine performs special rapid healing. During that time, David works with the engineers’ computer and teaches it English. From it, he learns back story 2: the ship’s mission to destroy humanity. He is gleeful.
As David returns to the ship, squid-zombie-Fifield appears and infects three other crew members with the next version before it is killed.
When Shaw awakens, Ford is there. Her mouth opens to reveal a xenomorph extensible jaw. The squid xenomorph has hollowed out the back of Ford’s head. Shaw escapes and traps it in the room.
Shaw and Janek agree that they need to leave the planet. David explains that since he activated the ship, it can now be found by other engineers, who may complete the original mission and destroy humanity. In a huge step for him and a huge shock for the humans, he refuses to go and shut it down alone. “I want you to go. It’s ready to tell you anything you want to know. Don’t you want to meet your maker?”
(90 minutes)
ACT 3
At David’s urging/taunting, Vickers demands that a team go back to the engineers’ ship and retrieve more artifacts and then shut down the ship. She leads a team into the ship, including Shaw and Janek.
David eagerly demonstrates the controls and introduces them to the hologram representative. He uses it to explain back stories 1, 2, and 3, even showing holographic images of the engineers being killed by the escaped xenomorphs. The computer explains that there are other ships like this one, other experiments on other planets, and other forms the xenomorph can take. David mocks the humans as failed experiments.
Then three 3rd gen xenomorphs enter, closer to the classic version, with acid blood. They followed from the Prometheus, where they had gestated after Fifield infected others. They attack the team except for David, who has no DNA, which he finds amusing.
The humans fight the xenomorphs. Two are killed relatively easily, altho the acid blood of the first kills the remaining mercenary. The third kills Janek and carries off Vickers, which David finds distressing.
Then the ship’s engines ignite. The hologram explains that the engineers have activated the ship remotely and are summoning it home. It will be kept in quarantine until it can be cleaned and examined. David regrets his actions and helps Shaw use the xenomorph’s acid blood to destroy the controls, wrecking the ship as it lifts. They barely escape with a jet pack or some bullshit, but Shaw’s helmet is cracked. David takes his off and gives it to her.
David carries Shaw back to the Prometheus, racing ahead of the third xenomorph. He says he wants her to survive so that humanity will understand how insignificant it is. They kill the xenomorph in the loading bay with the flamethrower. The two remaining crewmen prepare for launch.
Shaw asks David to take her to the med-pod, where she tricks him and locks him in with the 3rd gen xenomorph that gestated in Ford and which wants to kill him. Shaw tells him “This one isn’t so smart.* It doesn’t know that you’re not human. I guess it’s a failed experiment.” David hides in the pod itself, but Shaw activates it, and it disembowels him. (A machine designed to help instead kills, just like David himself.)
EPILOG
Shaw returns to the bridge and gives her warning narration and ends with “Who knows what else is out there? What other forms this xenomorph can take?” Meanwhile, we see three familiar-looking egg pods in a corner of the ship’s bay.
* It was gestated in Ford by the gen2 squid that Shaw extracted prematurely, so it is imperfect
Nice work, despite all the talking over each other.
My take is almost the opposite of Teague's. I hated the first 40 minutes because of how badly the character motivations and identities are sketched out. Most of the characters themselves don't know who each other is or even who is in charge. Characters disobey direct orders and wander off and get lost; the captain abandons his post without leaving anyone to monitor the lost characters.... It's bizarre.
But the last half, where stuff actually begins happening, makes just enough sense to me for me to kind of be okay with it. The engineers want to destroy humans--their accidental(?) creation--but their biological weapon got out of hand and killed them. And then we arrive and say "What up? Give us immortality!" And the engineer is like "Ha ha! LOLballs, no way."
But there's soooo much mushy near-prequel sub-plottery that the movie trips all over itself.
Oh yes. I was ignoring the idea of fitting it into a single episode. I said on the TD thread after ep 7 that needed more than 1 more episode to play out the finale properly.
Marty and Rust nail Sheriff Childress based on info they get out of the deputy-now-sheriff they kidnapped. Childress cops to molesting underage girls in occult rituals with Reverend Tuttle that were started by the patriarch Sam Tuttle, who called himself the Yellow King. But they, like old Sam, let the girls go (with threats and promises). They deny that the reverend's cousin(?), Governor-now-Senator Tuttle, was ever involved. But Maggie's father WAS. And Marty's daughter was one girl this circle ritually molested and released.
Marty and Rust confront Maggie's father, who confesses that he was long a part of the circle and then kills himself in front of them before they can do worse to him. But from him, Marty and Rust learn more about Errol, who once participated in the circle's rituals but hasn't in a long time because his behavior became disturbing, even to them. Errol treats his dead grandfather with great reverence and has, unbeknownst to the upscale circle, dug up his corpse and put it on display in the ruins of an abandoned fort called by them Carcosa. There, he and an even darker circle rape and murder girls and boys and prostitutes in their own rituals of purity and impurity, with Errol as the Yellow King. To these rituals, Errol has sometimes invited people like Ledoux and DeWall. But when they try to go after Errol, Marty and Rust are stopped by the agents of, as it turns out, Senator Tuttle.
Marty and Rust, now completely off the reservation, go after Senator Tuttle, and find that he did indeed once participate in the old Tuttle rituals but later came under the influence of Errol. They follow the senator to the remote location of Carcosa, where they find plenty of evidence. But that evidence is burned up when they confront, fight, and kill all the members of the circle amid the raging fire and get wounded (but not so badly). They decide to bury the bodies in the swampy cemetery next to the fort and let the senator's disappearance remain a mystery.
But before they do, they get a final confession from the senator and Errol, who explain that their ritual is the ancient one and Childress' is a corruption of Sam Tuttle's invention. Theirs was handed down for three centuries, when slaves and Indians were sacrificed to elder gods. ("Not the devil. No, much older; much worse.") And there are plenty of old bones and chilling Daguerreotypes around to corroborate their story. Errol and Senator Tuttle claim they "took the rituals back to the old ways, the pure ways." And Errol claims that when they kill him, another Yellow King will arise in his place.
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