I didn't hear you correct it during the commentary, but the Immaculate Conception refers to the Virgin Mary being conceived without original sin, thus allowing her to be the only person capable of later carrying the son of God.

I mean, I GUESS the baby in Bethany's womb might be without original sin, but I don't believe that was explicitly said.

That's why you hear people talk about immaculate conception and virgin birth as separate concepts.

I saw Dogma at an indie theater in Providence, RI during it's original run. I don't recall having seen any Kevin Smith films before that, and never felt an urge to see this one again.  I was a lapsed Catholic at this point in my life, so I at least appreciated the attempts to poke fun at the church.

I do remember being hung up on the fact that  the character called "Silent Bob" spoke several times.  To a person unfamiliar with his schtick, this made no sense to me.  A single monologue from the character would have worked much better, I think.

I'm curious to watch the film again 15 years later and see if it has improved for me at all. Which I'll do, right after I grab a slice of hot & delicious cheese pizza.

Oh, and I actually enjoyed Cop Out when I saw it, which was immediately after seeing Avatar (as in, I snuck into the adjoining theater).  I think coming from a film that had left me bored and glancing at my watch during its final hour, I was predisposed to like anything that had a little more life to it. I did laugh during the film, and thought it came off fairly well as a parody of the over the top Tango and Cash-esque action films I saw on VHS as a kid.

I even remember enjoying it enough to argue for the film in the comments of its negative AV Club review, and that my lonely post defending it was deleted, apparently for disagreeing with the reviewer. This was my first and last time commenting there . . .

I remember reading the script for this years before it was eventually released, and being disappointed in the execution of the film. Some of this was casting and some of it was directorial. Some of the lines just aren't delivered very well either.

It's an ok film though, tonally it's a bit uneven; the seriousness of some scenes between the angels for instance seems out of place next to, say, the shit monster.

All trilbies are fedoras but not all fedoras are trilbies.