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Of course not, the point I was making in the beginning was that - supposing all of the Potters were made by the exact same team - they shouldn't have assumed I'd watch the second one if the first one was sucky.

If you were bored by the pilot, you'd be bored by the show.

Which was my sentiment as of writing the first post in this thread. You're not on the hook to keep watching it if it's not your bag, and it's not my place to give you shit for it.

(Plus, you *leaped* onto Doctor Who when you first saw it, so I know you're not a stick in the mud.)

I look like such a shithead in that picture, it was only a matter of time. All because fuckin' Herph had to go and make an awesome rug. (Which is still hanging in the middle of my living room.)

You and me both, bud.

Yeah, Serenity is an example of a pilot where I was immediately sucked into who everyone was, what they were doing and the world around them, while they filled me on what everyone wanted and what stood in their way, and naturally the stakes as well. An all-cylinders pilot the likes of which I've only experienced with The West Wing.

Completely incidentally, The Train Job is probably my second-to-least viewed episode. lolfox.

Would you at least say it'd be ideal if all showrunners thought they only had one chance to hook an audience, and focused on making the pilot do just that?

I think that's probably right in the case of Game of Thrones, for me - plus medieval fantasy isn't something I'm inclined to dig anyway - but that also doesn't always happen. From the Earth to the Moon and The West Wing were inflated by my friends to impossible standards, and they both paid off that way for me.

Eh. Whatevs. Everyone's statute of limitations on not-giving-a-shit-yet are different, and differ from case to case.

That does seem to be the difference, but that makes me wonder...why would they? Why should I not expect a show to announce it's intentions in the pilot? And what exactly should be in the pilot if not something to make you just have to watch the next episode?

Obviously it's subjective as all shit, but.

I'm not saying I like to have dessert first, very clearly. I'm saying I like the appetizer to be appetizing.

I share your opinion, Fixedy.