3,851 Reply by Teague

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You should check the forum every five minutes, I enjoy your posts because they are more interesting than reading Lorem Ipsum.

*thumbs up*

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3,852 Reply by Teague

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3,853 Reply by Teague

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...it's called Sucker Punch, dude.

EDIT: Maybe we should have little dumpling episodes of DIF that aren't commentaries, but twenty or thirty minute conversational reviews of movies. I don't think we'll get around to Sucker Punch any time soon, but it'd be a shoe-in for a conversation like that.

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3,854 Reply by Teague

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Of course not, the point I was making in the beginning was that - supposing all of the Potters were made by the exact same team - they shouldn't have assumed I'd watch the second one if the first one was sucky.

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3,855 Reply by Teague

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The DAVE School got me a job. Represent.

Just sayin.

pimp

EDIT: Well, my reel and a recommendation got me a job, but the DAVE school is responsible for most of both. I just paid attention.

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3,856 Reply by Teague

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If you were bored by the pilot, you'd be bored by the show.

Which was my sentiment as of writing the first post in this thread. You're not on the hook to keep watching it if it's not your bag, and it's not my place to give you shit for it.

(Plus, you *leaped* onto Doctor Who when you first saw it, so I know you're not a stick in the mud.)

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3,857 Reply by Teague

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Wait, pausing at the breakdown. Is this really supposed to be a demo reel, or is it some intermediate not-a-reel-,not-a-short thing? If it's supposed to be a reel, I'd suggest a lot of editing and...demo-reel-ifying. If it's the middle thing, well, cool. I guess.

What's it for?

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3,858 Reply by Teague

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I look like such a shithead in that picture, it was only a matter of time. All because fuckin' Herph had to go and make an awesome rug. (Which is still hanging in the middle of my living room.)

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3,859 Reply by Teague

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Gonna watch episode two tonight.

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3,860 Reply by Teague

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You and me both, bud.

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3,861 Reply by Teague

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Recruiters will say a lot of stuff in job applications to scare off the ones who are likely to be scared off, on the assumption that only qualified people or total nutbars will actually apply.

Be a nutbar. Be all of the nutbars.

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3,862 Reply by Teague

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Yeah, Serenity is an example of a pilot where I was immediately sucked into who everyone was, what they were doing and the world around them, while they filled me on what everyone wanted and what stood in their way, and naturally the stakes as well. An all-cylinders pilot the likes of which I've only experienced with The West Wing.

Completely incidentally, The Train Job is probably my second-to-least viewed episode. lolfox.

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3,863 Reply by Teague

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I like this post a lot, I'll have it in mind when preparing to watch HBO/Showtime/Starz shows in the future.

Well said.

AlsoIlovetheSerenitypilotbecauseitdoeswhatIsaidIwantittodo. *ahem*

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3,864 Reply by Teague

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Would you at least say it'd be ideal if all showrunners thought they only had one chance to hook an audience, and focused on making the pilot do just that?

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3,865 Reply by Teague

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But.

fcw wrote:

If you're producing a new show, you need to grab my attention and win it with Episode One, don't just expect that I'll donate literally days of my life to you on the off-chance that you might get your act together once you've learned how to write what you want to say.

So, that.  big_smile

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3,866 Reply by Teague

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I think that's probably right in the case of Game of Thrones, for me - plus medieval fantasy isn't something I'm inclined to dig anyway - but that also doesn't always happen. From the Earth to the Moon and The West Wing were inflated by my friends to impossible standards, and they both paid off that way for me.

Eh. Whatevs. Everyone's statute of limitations on not-giving-a-shit-yet are different, and differ from case to case.

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3,867 Reply by Teague

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Fair 'nuff.

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3,868 Reply by Teague

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That does seem to be the difference, but that makes me wonder...why would they? Why should I not expect a show to announce it's intentions in the pilot? And what exactly should be in the pilot if not something to make you just have to watch the next episode?

Obviously it's subjective as all shit, but.

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3,869 Reply by Teague

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Eddie: I agree with you, and those are good points, but to be clear - this isn't about Game of Thrones, or Carnivale, or anything that specific. This is a more general thing, referring to the broad trend of "keep at it, you'll like it."

I have been trying to like beer for years, and I have made zero headway. I might like it when I'm thirty, I might love it when I'm thirty, but drinking more now isn't helping.

Mike: I agree, but I need more than a premise, usually, I need someone to like or at least want to know more about, usually a few someones. Like, right off the bat. I'll give a show eight years of intricacy if in the beginning I see why I'm watching it.

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3,870 Reply by Teague

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I'm not saying I like to have dessert first, very clearly. I'm saying I like the appetizer to be appetizing.

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3,871 Topic by Teague

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I've seen this a couple times recently, and it's always bugged me, so I'd like to get some other opinions. People will tell me to watch a show, I'll check out the pilot and say "eh, not my thing," or...you know, "that was pretty bad, no thanks." And the inevitable response is "give it a season."

How about this: no. I'll give you a pilot. If you can't make me think "ah, I will watch this season to see how it unfolds" in the first whole episode, I've done my part, and that's that. It's really not hard to get me onboard with something, I don't feel like my standards are unreasonably high. You have 22, 42, or 60 minutes to tell me who the protagonist is, what they want, what the stakes are, and what's standing in their way. If you do, and those things all make sense, I'm probably interested to find out what happens. If you don't, I'm probably not.

The next thing people will say is "well, most pilots suck, it takes them a while to find their stride." Two things. One, I understand that on paper, but it doesn't make me enjoy the pilot any more, so how is the burden on me to watch them fuck around with my bra before sticking it in me? (Or. Something.)  Two, all of the shows that I would call my favorites I have loved since the first time I saw my first episode. The West Wing, Doctor Who, Firefly, Studio 60, Weeds, Californication, even shit like Scrubs, The Office, and docu-reality stuff like Mythbusters and Top Gear. Saw one, went "I see what you're doing here, let's fuckin' go."

Naturally every show is different, but find me a throughline that hits all of those shows and then tell me that this rule just can't apply to everything.

Anyway. This has been on my mind a lot lately, and I wanted to get it off my chest. I'll watch anything, but I won't just keep watching it because you say it eventually gets good. It's not that I don't believe you, it's that I don't have to wait to like a lot of things, and why should I?

Has there ever been a story told so complicated that they couldn't get me engaged in the first hour of their attempt to engage me? Fucking Lord of the Rings begins with telling me what's up, and then I get to spend time with some lovely, funloving characters I can identify with before challenging them with this impossible quest. That's Lord of the fucking Rings, by all accounts a sprawling, intricate story. And boom, I'm in for the ride. Way to start, guys. I don't even like period/fantasy dramas, and I'm in. If your show is less complicated than Lord of the Rings, you have no excuse. If it's as complicated as Lord of the Rings, you have no excuse. If it's more complicated than Lord of the Rings, figure out something a moron like me can latch onto immediately so you don't buck me off the ship as it leaves port.

Just don't blame me for not becoming engaged. That's not my problem, it's theirs.

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3,872 Reply by Teague

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I share your opinion, Fixedy.

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3,873 Reply by Teague

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Finishing up the pilot now. Yeah, it's a handsome show. The writing and acting seems to be good.

But I'm confused and bored. I'll see how I feel a few minutes into the second episode.

EDIT: Actually, moving on to yesterday's new-show-I'm seeing-for-the-first-time-that-people-have-been-telling-me-about - Carnivale. Got a few episodes in last night. Really digging it, not so much the GoT. I might come back to GoT at some point, but for now, meh. I am glad it's on the air and good, it's just not my thing.

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3,874 Reply by Teague

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hmm

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3,875 Reply by Teague

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Don't worry, we come up with a way better idea at the end.

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