426

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

Thanks.

...

Hm.

I feel like I'm just being a baby about this, but — solely to be honest — I don't want to sit across a table from someone I know and systematically try to kill them. Like: even 'Monopoly' is offputting, y'know? I don't even want to systematically try to bankrupt someone in a table game — much less kill them. I'm left with this deep (dumb) sense of ickiness at the prospect; as if this game is called "Just Keep Strangling Someone Until They Stop Breathing," and I'm meant to play it with friends.

(Video games are different, to me. I have a theory for why, but who cares.)

Like I said, I feel like I'm just being a baby; and even if this mechanic were altered somehow — 'they're just disabled!', or whatever — I still might not be cut-out for it; this could just be my subconscious attempting to rationalize a deeper reaction to something unrelated. Who knows. In any case, I don't think my position here is likely to be common (or reasonable), but... out of curiosity, has anybody else mentioned anything similar?

427

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

Awesome! (And thanks.)

In that case, lemme float one item of confusion for me:

Can you define what is meant by 'combat' in terms of both the metaphor (what we're doing to each other in the game canon) — and the mechanic? (What we're doing to each other with our plays, I guess.) Not that you haven't answered this question before, but in my brain thus far, where I want to find [an understanding of what we're talking about when we talk about 'combat' vis-a-vis this game], I mostly find [a hazy sense of something happens which involves motivations and strategies that the players will probably understand at the time].

That kind of thing.

(Something else that might help me is just to read a generic good strategy for playing the game. What to 'do.')

428

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

I have now had a chance to try to engage with this thread, and, unfortunately, I'm still confused. You've done a great job of spelling everything out in terms of details; I'm just rotten at taking a barrel full of details and coalescing a general summary from it. Since that's largely an artifact of how many things are involved in this game, and since the game requires that-many-things (because it's not, like, Candyland)... I think I'm probably just not particularly cut-out for complex board games.

(Which is a bummer, because I'm definitely cut-out for designing abstract rule-sets. I live for that stuff. Hmf.)

This continues to be a great thread, and I continue to lend my spiritual support in whatever ways would help.

I cannot afford to fly to the UK and spend a week making dick jokes in a hospital room right now.

I just... cannot afford it. In terms of money or time.

But, dude — seriously — I'd be there in a heartbeat if I could. I'd literally book a flight and literally book a hotel and literally spend a week hanging out and making dick jokes in that room, and it's driving me insane that I can't.

My heart goes out to you. I'm sorry you're going through this. Lemme know if there's anything I (or we) can do.

430

(255 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Did you ever read his eulogy of Nixon?

Boink.

Excerpt:

You don't even have to know who Richard Nixon was to be a victim of his ugly, Nazi spirit.

REGAN.

HOLY GOD.

I'm so sorry about the pain. I hate uncontrollable pain.

I can't imagine how much this has sucked.

This post contained oodles and oodles of information, and I appreciated every word of it.

Have you ever had surgery before? General anesthesia, etc.?

433

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

I would be interested to read your The Rules, whenupon they are correlated.

434

(1,649 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Holy crap! fcw! How ya been?

Being forced into some major operation by one's own body is the kind of nightmare I have yet to encounter.

(Winter is coming, I know.)

At least you got to hit the snooze button for a minute, I guess? Bought a bit of time for mental preparation.

...

Eh. No. It just sucks.

In any case, it does sound like you've got your head screwed-on straight about it, so that's something good.

Hooray! Delaying the inevitable!

But seriously: Hooray!

(Thanks for the update, btw. Don't mistake the lack of conversation for lack of interest.)

(I'm gonna reply either way, but to be clear: do you mean, essentially,

Nobody wrote:

"That's all well and good, Teague, for anyone who happens to already be 'cosmopolitan' about such things... but what if they're not? Are you saying we should just force cosmopolitanism onto them? Isn't that a violation of their will, instead of someone else's? Doesn't this just kick the can down the road?"

...or do you mean somethin' else?)

438

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

Skype night!

(I still haven't had time to engage with this thread. Now I'm just being a jerk about it. Sorry.)

As for "tolerance of intolerance," I — for myself — generally find that to be a fairly easy question to answer.

Measure by the violence of the outcome.

Whom do you tolerate? Anybody who's intended outcomes can be stopped (if necessary) without violence. Some positions inherently increase the amount of exclusionary violence in the world — ahem: in the philosophical 'all-politics-is-violence' sense, that is — and some positions increase the amount of inclusionary consensus-attempt. Forget 'tolerance vs. intolerance,' and just seek positions which prevent violence — systemically — as best you can. If you only do half-well at this attempt, you're still way above the worrisome threshold... because it means that you care about allowing your ideas to be refuted without becoming violent in response.

PS #1: I'm not sure if this was too simplified. It was either gonna be this — one short paragraph — or one of my ginormous treatises that nobody enjoys reading. I'm happy to throw out a longer version if anybody's interested.

PS #2: Also, remember the etymology of "violent" — something 'violent' violates somebody's earnestly-willed outcome. Ultimately, to have violence enacted upon you is to be shut down, not injured. It's the ultimate violation of will. With that definition in mind, again: seek positions which prevent violence, systemically, as best you can.

In other words: Intolerability arises from the expected requirement of violence in the outcome of your position.

tl;dr:

If, after having adopted your position, society could not "stop engaging in it" without fundamentally rejecting its implicit terms of authority — i.e.: if your thing implicitly includes entitlement to violate — your thing sucked.

Whoever the fuck this guy is — what he said.

This shit is just such a slog, y'know?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/d3YH7yLSazfGuj4I/giphy.gif

"Okay campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your fortitude because it's devastating out there today! (It's devastating out there every day — what is this, some Chekov shit? Not hardly!) So, really: Do you think any of our leaders are going to see themselves in the mirror today? Ha! That's right, doldrum-lovers — it's Tues-day!"

442

(38 replies, posted in Creations)

(For the record, I absolutely love this thread, I just haven't had time to engage with it yet.)

Well, anyway.

Just to begin somewhere, here are my concerns:

SPOILER Show

https://media2.giphy.com/media/FQ0rG8csyZzMs/giphy.gif

Non-Mod post:

Look, at this point, we represent the dwindling raft of debris still floating in the post-DIF stormwaters, and — for sanity — we've gotta cling onto each other as much as possible. I intend for this thread to be perfectly accommodating to people of any political persuasion — look: we're all concerned about the future of democracy — just as long as those political persuasions are expressed according to the aforementioned etiquette.

I want to be very clear: regardless of any disagreement you-and-I might come to, you can always expect me to drop "my" "role" in that disagreement, when it comes to mod concerns. In my capacity as a mod, I mean to be fully responsive to people who espouse opinions which, in my capacity as a poster, I'm literally yelling my disagreement about. (If it comes to that.) If you come to me for a mod-thing and are unsatisfied with my response, I also intend to leave any [rule-abiding] "public appeals" you make (in response to that dissatisfaction) public and unedited. I'll make my case as well — and, obviously, 'mod-rule' stands, until successfully appealled — but, while you won't get the last word on the ruling, your voice in this thread will never be silenced unless it's in direct violation of the rule above, even if your voice is being used to criticize the mods.

For any other person with mod-powers on this board, I expect the very same to apply. Strict separation of decisionmaking in "mod-capacity" versus "poster-capacity" is the minimum sufficient criteria for mod-powers on this board. If you have a problem with any other mod, you can always appeal it to me — and they may lose.





In the meantime?





Go nuts. Disagree with people's opinions. Just don't belittle people.

[placeholder for future mod-stuff-as-necessary, if necessary]

Mod post:

This thread has one rule:

Belittling of private figures will not be tolerated.

Everybody using this forum is a private figure.

If you're in any way confused about the implications of this rule, I'll include additional details in the spoiler box below. (Note: If you fail to read these details and then mess-up later in the thread, I'll be holding you accountable for having not read it, so... seriously: if you're confused, read the box.)

The Rule Show
If [whatever you express] targets and belittles any private figure, it will be edited.

No warning.

I'll show up in your post with bright red text and explain: 1) that I have edited your post; 2) what edits I have made; and: 3) why I made them. Express "harsh" opinions "harshly," if you want — you do you; it's your speech; these are harsh times — but keep a weather eye on your aim.

So, what's a "private figure?" Anybody who doesn't draw a public paycheck somewhere on Earth. Pursuant to these rules, Jared Kushner — for example; or Nigel Farage, or Marine Le Pen — is still "a public official," as far as a FIYH forumer from Croatia would be concerned. The "public" in-question doesn't have to reflect your national public; if [the person you're addressing] is beholden to the public, somewhere, they're public.

Until they draw a public check, another FIYH forumer is not a public official under any set of circumstances.

Last chance:

If your expression-of-opinion targets and belittles anybody on this forum — rather than their argument — you've fucked up. Get harsh with their opinions as you see fit, but if you go 'beyond' their opinion (into their 'motivations,' or anything along those lines), be warned: I will be actively seeking opportunities which allow me to demonstrate that the forum is being kept safer for them than you. I will take their side.

...and I love you, you idiot, so... for fuck's sake, don't make me do this. It's just one rule. Let's be cool, right?

tl;dr:

Express your opinions into the conversation — not onto the conversant.

If you're not sure whether something crosses the line, you probably should rewrite the 'iffy' bit.

447

(44 replies, posted in Episodes)

FAXED

448

(2,068 replies, posted in Off Topic)

[spoiler]

*snortlaugh*

I'm sorry to everyone.

1) Thanks for the update.

2) Dude, this sucks. Particularly the 'rock-and-a-hard-place' stuff with the ileostomy. What a nightmare.

3) Had you had issues like this in the past? (In other words, did you have any idea about this being an issue?)

4) I'm so sorry to hear about all this.

5) Thanks for the update.

6) Cat.

450

(16 replies, posted in Creations)

I once seen a too.

(Sorry Writhyn.)