I agree with you on all of that.

The reason I'm still in this conversation is because that's not what the Prop 19 proponents smell like to me, and I don't think that's their specific intention. It's certainly the most noble of them, and that's why you hear about it the most - but at the end of the day, call me a cynic, I think the interim phase 'medical' marijuana is being sought after for more reasons than "it really helps sick people." I think it's because they know it's incredibly easy to game that system.

I edited quite a bit before your post went up, re-read it.

Especially the end portion. There's no major incentive for people to canvas for medical marijuana rights, outside of the portion that would do it simply because they want to devote their time to helping sick people. There is an incentive for them to do it if they know it's easy to get a marijuana license themselves.

"Largely." You get the chemo patients, I get the stoners who bullshit their way into a weed card. Who has more folks?

I know four people, completely incidentally, with no medical problem and a weed card. I don't know anyone in chemotherapy, much less someone in chemotherapy with a marijuana license.

And if I did know someone in chemo who also had a weed card, I'd still know the other four.

I should clarify. Naturally the effects of marijuana can be beneficial to someone in pain, but the legislative entity "medical marijuana" is largely bullshit.

EDIT: I checked, because now I'm curious.

The assertion that all medical marijuana is headed for seriously ill patients is misleading. Statistics from the California Branch of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) shows that a survey of Californians reports the top three reported uses of medicinal marijuana: 40% Chronic Pain, 22% AIDS-Related, 15% Mood Disorders

The largest fraction is people with "chronic pain," which encompasses a virtually limitless number of real and conveniently subjective medical problems. Then there's AIDS, hard to fake. Then "mood disorders," another field surely ripe with legitimate cases, but largely subjective.

Just in the stated numbers, up to 65% of licensed marijuana users got them because they told someone something was wrong with them. Compare that to, say, AIDS or chemo.

I maintain, as apparently everyone else does, that weed should be legal. I just don't like people using "medical marijuana" as their argument - because it doesn't apply to the overwhelming majority of Prop 19 proponents. "There's no reason for it not to be illegal" is a better one.

4,704

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A better test would have been to have told one of them something, had them communicate it to the other, and ask the other what was said.

4,705

(68 replies, posted in Episodes)

Yeah, we didn't have much to say about the movie, all told. Ya'll voted for it. smile

4,706

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Hey folks. In the past month we've rolled out a few tweaks to the show in an effort to make us as easily-archivable and linkable as possible, plus with the added enhancements to the episodes, live broadcasts with chat and our shiny donate button, the overall "hey, they're really trying"-ness of the show has bumped a little as well.

I've gone through IMDb and added our episodes to the interminable piles of External Reviews for the movies in question, and I have an email into them getting clearance to pimp episodes on the IMDb boards as well.

If anyone knows of (or stumbles across) (or actively looks for, thereby winning my eternal love) a place where a link and/or a description of a particular episode would not go amiss, it'd be great if you could do so. The idea is, post a link on some Nightmare Before Christmas website and we get them die-hard Nightmare Before Christmas fans in on that episode, and some number of them click around for a while and give The Crow a listen. Or whatever.

This sort of thing is of equal or greater value than a monetary donation, so if you don't have a few bucks to spare, this is a much-appreciated gesture.

The format for linking to an episode is www.downinfront.net, and then add /index.php?id=## to the end. The ## indicates which episode of the show that is. (The Fifth Element being 75, and so forth.)

Any and all other ideas for word-of-mouthing are welcome and wanted. Anything we can do to make it easier for you to convince one person to listen to the show is on the table.

Aside from blowjobs.

4,707

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Hey, has anyone had Dorkman's problem with the iTunes download of The Fifth Element?

He pointed out that his download of Terminator Salvation didn't work on his iPhone, but that episode had a rocky adventure to iTunesland, and is still inexplicably in the RSS feed twice. The Fifth Element went up like a charm, and downloads fine to my computer.

If all drugs were legalized, I don't think I'd do any of them, to be honest. Certainly not immediately after they became available to me.

I've never smoked weed, but I've been around it a bit. I'm for legalization out of general apathy. Medical marijuana, from what I understand, is largely bullshit. You wanna get high, we get it. Sorry about your new hypertension.

4,710

(68 replies, posted in Episodes)

Ha!

4,711

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

So I take it you guys enjoyed the live broadcast? smile

4,712

(68 replies, posted in Episodes)

Booyah.

4,713

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Put a clip from the Chinatown commentary in the first post.

4,714

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Two hours and forty five minutes from now. smile

4,715

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John over at Couch Surfing included a bit on today's episode about Down in Front that is very complimentary.

I've snipped out just that portion if you want to listen to it, it's about six minutes, available here.

Thanks sir, really appreciate the shout-out.

4,716

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I read that one about a year ago, I liked it alright. (But I liked Pirates of Silicon Valley.)

4,717

(96 replies, posted in Episodes)

For more on this, our buddy at SHOSW has some interesting reading.

4,718

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I've added a lot of front-end security on registration, and deleted about one hundred spam users. New users will have to deal with some security questions and a capcha.

The upside is, now that users have been pruned, it looks like we really do have over a hundred community members.

I've also added private messaging via the forum.

4,719

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I think it's definitely supposed to chatter when you look at it in person. The moire effect in stills is just an offshoot.

4,720

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Saturday at 3:00 PM PST, we sit down with the director of BACKYARD BLOCKBUSTERS to talk about his documentary that we're all in, and also, uh, do a commentary for THE AVENGERS.

Backyard Blockbusters is a documentary about fanfilms, which is where all the DIF folks come from and originally met, and it's awesome. Coming soon to a place-to-see-it near you, as yet undisclosed. Alas! We shall talk fanfilms and our history and all that fun stuff.

Oh yeah, then we'll do the AVENGERS commentary.

Wanna join us? The live recordings happen at downinfront.net/live. We provide a video stream with high-quality audio, and a chat room for the other friends in your head. We record in Los Angeles, so the schedule is posted in Pacific Standard Time. If you want to make sure you have the right time, this Google search tells you what time it is in LA right now.

Here is an example of what the live stream looks like. This is a ten-minute clip from the Chinatown commentary.

This first post is updated weekly, for recent replies, go to the end of the thread. Replies below this are for previous weeks.

I've heard good things about this, actually.

4,722

(96 replies, posted in Episodes)

Yes. It's true.

http://daveandruss.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sad_kitty.jpg

4,723

(4 replies, posted in Off Topic)

They're nice.

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4,724

(301 replies, posted in Episodes)

Autowash.

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4,725

(16 replies, posted in Off Topic)

You might just be nuts.

I've never listened to a podcast at high speed.

Then again you listen to a lot of them.

This brings us back to nuts.