That worked nicely. /goes to bed

Uh huh.

I've never seen Karate Kid and I don't know kung fu from fucking, but I'd wager the core audience of a remake of Karate Kid are people who were eight when the original came out. Not, you know, martial arts enthusiasts.

Hard refresh (Ctrl-F5) doesn't work. In Firefox, Tools, Clear Recent History. Then refresh.

Or www.downinfront.net/episode/54.

Exactly. Hence my question of gameplay. Surely a cinematic between scenes can be art if a movie can, but Ebert is thinking of playing a game.

Uh. Sure? I dunno, not really. Again, skilled technician.

Alright, I think we've all encountered the circle of our original argument.

Can someone put all of the weird little hypothetical side questions that have been asked in one post, so we can poll it out?

Earlier I asked about the distinction between skilled technicians and artists, and implied my opinion. Now I'm going back on that.

I'd say a DP is an artist, and a director is not.  That might be because photography is an art in my stupid brain, and movies aren't. But there's my first impression.

Let me attempt to swerve the conversation.

Alright, games can. But can gameplay?

No idea what auteur theory is.

I don't consider music as a whole an art. I consider songwriting or composition an art, sure.