Doctor Submarine wrote:I had a professor who offered a spirited defense of Batman and Robin which really informed my views about "plot holes." The idea is that People call Batman and Robin a bad movie because they point out "flaws" without taking into consideration the film's tone. If The Dark Knight took itself less seriously, people would be whining about all the "problems" with that film too. Batman and Robin is the only Batman movie that's aware of the inherent silliness of the concept, and it's the only one to embrace that silliness. I think it came up when someone in the class pointed out a "flaw" in some movie and she said, "Did you ever think that maybe that 'flaw' is there for a reason? Or maybe that 'flaw' fits into the larger context of the film?" In other words, you can't hold every film to identical standards in this way. If nothing else, it's the most boring way imaginable to look at movies.
That's fair, but perhaps some movies require more forgiveness than others. I am far more forgiving of films that many are critical of, such as The Hobbit, Attack of the Clones, Chronicles of Riddick, among others because of the tone or story. Heck, on Movie Mistakes, Lord of the Rings films are among the top ones for mistakes. They are also my favorite films of all time.
Even one of my favorite TV shows, MASH, has a plethora of mistakes or flaws that I notice. One scene I can recall vividly is in the showers, and a character yanks on the water chain, and the whole prop falls apart. It's brief, but I notice it. It doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the episode or that scene. I laugh and move along.
For me, it is the same thing with all these different criticisms on the Internet. I laugh and I move on. I'm not looking for serious analysis, because that isn't what the film is about. The larger whole matters more to me. As you have probably noticed, I am an ardent defender of Star Trek Into Darkness, because the tone and themes of the film are ones that I believe are important. That is not an opinion that is shared by many.
So, CS is something that I don't take seriously. I don't regard it as film analysis, and I don't look to it for telling me a film is bad. I have other sources for that. If other people take it seriously, then that is something I cannot help. I simply express my opinion, and let it fall were it may.
Also, I will disagree and maintain that the Adam West Batman movie is far more aware of the silly nature of Batman, and embraces it fully. It is a more enjoyable film, in my opinion, because of the tone of the film. Batman and Robin was perhaps less successful because it tried to bridge the gap from Batman Forever, a more serious and brooding take, and the campier take in Batman and Robin. But, that is a discussion for elsewhere.