Finally got around to watching Pacific Rim.

I came away with two thoughts. First, it was impressive how much the CG monsters looked like guys in suits. Not all the time, naturally, but in many of the fights you could replace the mechs with a suit Godzilla and he'd fit right in. Second, it's definitely a "name that reference" movie. The hero mech being nuke powered while the rest aren't is from Giant Robo, and the ending reminded me of Gunbuster. That doesn't make it a great movie, but it does make me want to watch those anime again

Yes it does. I apologize for mentioning its one absence

Well, yes, but you have to tell that to everyone coming to this from elsewhere. I just posted a promo for it, and realized anyone just following the link wouldn't know when it actually started.

Nope, that should do it. First I've seen that link, but then I haven't gone through this entire thread

And, if you watch the dub, you get to hear Cary Elwes battle Tim Curry, the matchup you've all been waiting for!

OK, finally listened to all of it, and so yes, thanks for the unexpected shoutout

As for dropping anime knowledge, all three shows that made up Robotech are available in their original form. Southern Cross (which was originally canceled before they could come up with an ending) and Genesis Climber Mospeada are available subtitled, and the ADV release of Macross has subtitles as well as a new dub. All are well worth watching. The biggest change made to turn them into Robotech, besides deciding all the Black characters were related, was to change "proto-culture" into the fuel used in Mospeada. Originally, in Macross, it's literally the culture both humans and the aliens are descended from, and the aliens react to human culture the same way many around the world react to US culture (leaders are repelled, some of the people love it).

For me, actually, what Robotech was for Eddie STARBLAZERS was in my life. The first two series of Space Battleship Yamato were brought to the US under that name in 1978, and it was incredible. They toned down the death a bit, but not much. Characters still died, actions have consequences. It was my first real exposure to serial storytelling. The dubbing still holds up, even if "Captain Avatar" sounds like McGruff the Crime Dog.

Miyazaki didn't direct Grave of the Fireflies. It IS from Studio Ghibli, which tends to only release Miyazaki movies, so the confusion is understandable.

I like the analogy of The Muppet Show to WWE. It reminded me of one of the most monumental moments in my childhood TV viewing life. The 70's were when a bunch of old kids shows tried to make a comeback. They did a new syndicated Mickey Mouse Show, as well as a new Howdy Doody. My dad had loved the show as a kid, so naturally I watched the new one (from the dates, I was about 7 when it started). Each episode had Buffalo Bob trying to put on that week's show, and the clown Clarabell would keep interrupting. At some point, as I watched, I thought to myself, "Man, they have NEVER actually finished an act!"

At which point, I realized the horrible truth: Clarabell, and all the interruptions, were scripted.

A part of me died that day...

There is also an availability divide. Our house did not have cable until both us kids were in college. Thus, no nick, no disney channel. We DID get Fraggle Rock, as it was a HBO and CBC coproduction and thus was available on Canadian TV. Other than that, if it wasn't syndicated or on a broadcast network, we didn't see it. We got a VCR in the mid-80's, when both of us were in high school.

My father used to tell the story of how, when Sesame Street started, one of his fellow teachers refused to let his own kids watch it because it had Black kids playing with the Whites. Dad had his own issues, but he took it as a point of pride that he wasn't THAT bad!