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How's that revolution going?
True, but you learn just as much about production in well run productions as poorly run ones. And if you're working for free you really don't have to worry about fucking up and getting fired. If you work on five Craigslist productions (craigslist as a euphamism as nutty free work found anywhere) that each have 20 people on them, you've made contact with a hundred people that are actually motivated and making stuff. Odds are more than one of them wont be totally crazy, and you will like each other, and boom, you've started networking.
Your points are all valid, and at this point it's just a matter of taste, but if finding like minded people are your goal, I would say it's worth it to find peers in the real world. A graduate program will make it easier, but I'm not sure it would make it $150,000 easier.
Been going over John August's podcast the last couple days, and found this episode where they talk about this exact subject. But not until like half way though.
http://johnaugust.com/2011/the-good-boy … s-worth-it
Spoilers: Their conclusion is to the tune of "go if you want but it's not nearly as valuable or important as it was ten or even five years ago". And I agree completely.
Saw La Luna today, the Oscar considered short that will be playing before Brave, and saw a presentation from the director, Enrico Casarosa. It's the longest Pixar short they've ever produced, there isn't much in the way of action, there's only three characters and two sets. And it rocks. It's beautiful, elegant, efficient storytelling, that barely strays from the original storyboards and animatics that were shown from the pitch.
Any other studio, I would just say yeah, duh, the shorts get to go nuts since they're not producing a piece of work that's responsible to the "vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars". And it does sound like with La Luna they were given the chance to just sorta go off and make this thing. But these are the people that previously gave us that movie about the elderly man that had to float his damn house through the jungle with talking dogs to come to terms with his new life as a widower. They're familiar with chances.
I'm not privy to the specifics of decisions at the top of Disney•Pixar, but did something shift up top to make them have to work a little more conservatively at the feature level? Hope it's not that the chance that informs this project is just that it has a female lead.
Again, I'm reserving judgement on Brave until I see it, this is just the crap I'm thinking about since it's odd to be hearing such negative press about something that isn't coming out for so long.
Oh and VFX nerds: The amount of hand drawn and painted elements in La Luna is awesome. They printed out the UVs for the individual slats of the boat, painted them in watercolors, scanned them back in, and slapped them on geometry. Same for the matte paintings and the moon, just with pastels and stuff.
Was the Disney merger/acquisition during production? If it did, could have been a problem of suddenly having twice as many creative executives and middle managers swoop in on a project in production to prove their worth.
For MFA programs I'd recommend finding and talking to a bunch of graduates (and drop outs) of the program and just asking them what they thought of it and if they thought it was worth it. Strike up a rapport and hey, instant contacts whether you decide to go or not.
Graduate school is a really, really expensive way to find people to make movies. Especially when you can help out on sets your find on Craigslist for free, then theoretically start getting paid to learn on jobs rather than paying crazy dollars with loans.
But hey everyone's different.
Maybe it's the other three hours of Ghosts that he didn't reuse for Social Network.
I liked the part where Fonzie just banged on the pod bay doors, they opened, and gave him a free Coke.
I assume Cars 2 was flawed since the film was an exercise in nostalgia, and everything was geared towards that theme.
Taking the same group of characters and throwing them into some wacky spy scenario probably worked about as well as that episode of Happy Days where they went to space.
Judgements on Brave reserved on the grounds that Pixar trailers are understandably broad and conservative.
Yeah, but fairytales and good science fiction stories theoretically serve identical purposes andHEY now you have something to talk about while Bruce Dern pets rabbits and plays cards with robots for two hours.
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Seriously though this is a significant film and should have an episode.
The extras on the DVD are great, particularly how Trumbull says he had no idea what he was doing with this movie in the first 10 mins of his commentary, and the featurettes finally taught me how front projection works.
I hadn't noticed the "clarified Scot" tint of their accents the first time I saw the trailer weeks ago, but yeah, it makes sense they would do that to help it play internationally.
If that's the case though, think there's a chance that could actually impede on the performances? Like, extra mental cycles have to go towards specific, unnatural enunciations.
But hey could be wrong and that could just be the thing you're getting paid to be a voice actor for. Dunno.
For me, I have been pretty passionate about making movies since I was about nine.
From what I know about NYU's film program, you're the kind of person it was made for.
You're paying for resources that you won't have again for a really long time, and that's if you're lucky. If there's a class on how to hustle equipment out of your distribution center, take it twice.
The trick in "talent" is taste, self-criticism, or however you want to characterize the idea of being able to recognize everything you do is crap for a while. It's that ability to pick up on what you're doing wrong and how it can be done better next time that provides the lift from running in circles to a helix with an upwards vector of improvement. (sorry, obtuse spatial metaphor)
I was film school adjacent. My concentration was in "New Media" which the school kind of realized was bullshit, and dissolved it the next semester into Interactive Arts/Web Design/Post-production or whatever. The high level classes were really cool, helped shape the idea of what the media landscape would probably be like for the rest of our careers. My thesis was on how the last century of centralized media industry as an unfortunate consequence of the investment required to operate the technology, and with that diminishing, culture, communication and all that moving into the future will look a lot more like any other century than the 20th.
My college was known largely as a film school, and my diploma says the same thing as all the film majors - Something like Bachelor of Media Arts. All of my friends were film, tv, audio, writing, and performance majors, and a lot of us had the same classes for the first couple years. Joke in the Media History/Criticism classes were that our diplomas was a very expensive license to laugh at Birth of a Nation jokes for the rest of our lives. I found the liberal arts part of the education was just as important as the vocational side.
What you guys were indirectly touching on in the episode was a huge debate within the faculty when I was in college, the departments were all trying to reconcile the academic with the vocational – frankly if they should give a highly detailed extremely through education focusing on one side or the other, or a middling lukewarm education of both.
Could be totally wrong, but I *think* their stopgap solution was to tune the classes towards the academic and liberal arts aspects of film/media, lighten the course load slightly, and encourage students to go nuts with their clubs and extracurriculars by giving them a shitload of money and resources. Actually worked out pretty well, since people that didn't have the drive to learn and make stuff were out of the way. Grade school analogy would be cutting PE in half, doubling recess, and installing a shit load of shiny new playground parts.
Which was awesome, and worked for me. I could go run around on any piece of equipment I wanted, explore and watch films from a vast, well curated media library, realized this shit is the best, moved to LA and made it my job.
Thought about this the other day and was wondering if it was out yet.
Then thought about these forums some other other day and figured I should try to be more present.
Ordered and hi.
Check and check.
Then… don't… see it?
If there's money to make a studio will try to make it. Business.
I follow like two shows right now, and Breaking Bad's one of them. Was only vaguely interested until I did some work on the third season, and did a "Ohhhhh, this is like THAT". Ran through all three seasons pretty quick after that, it's one of the best things that has ever been on TV.
There's a billboard at Sunset and La Brea I've seen everyday for the past couple weeks that makes me get giddy with anticipation.
OP's concerns for the ending don't make much sense and make me wonder if he's actually been watching the same show.
Anyone seen this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_people_dear_readers
I set up a screening in college then couldn't make it - been meaning to revisit it since.
Watched his "There is only one story structure" and "X-Men: First Class" videos, the guy's a hack. His stuff is extremely reductive, and since he doesn't establish a frame of reference for the journey, he can pick and choose information that fits into his model.
There's a lot of Campbellian keywords and abbreviations, yeah, but there's no sense of why those terms are important.
It fails since he's just talking with authority describing something, but making no effort at all to explain what it is about a story's structure that makes it compelling.
King Kong vs. Godzilla
Digitus aurum
There are plenty of shitty directors, but Shyamalan's a shitty auteur.
My take-away from the whole thing is that if you're a professional, try to enter relationships with software vendors where they need you as much as you need them.
If not, incentives get all fucked and you end up with something like FCPX. So in that perverted sense, yeah, I'm happy to have learned that lesson. It sucks that the industry has been slapped in the head with this reframe, but moving forward people that lean on packages like this to make a living are better off elsewhere.
The Mall Tease Falcon
Woolen Garment Shearer's Third Month
Mutiny on the Bounty
The Previous Julian Orbital Period in a Czech Spa Town
And not editing is also editing.
Something something 4' 33".
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