redxavier wrote:

Then accidentally on purpose replace Young Guns II in the player with the bluray of The Searchers - my favourite western of them all.

That'll be the day.

/the cool kids got that

Yeah, of the "classic" (as opposed to The Cowboys which is more post-modern and ironic) Westerns, The Searchers is probably my favorite too.

Would love to.  So far we're still on Step One: convincing the rest of the panel to watch it.  smile

This is true - it's really about coming of age (and also about growing old, as personified by Wayne's character) and just happens to take place on horseback.

Also, like a lot of pre-Syd Field movies, the story turns are sometimes really surprising - several things happen where you can't help but think "wow, they sure wouldn't do that in a movie now"

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For that first 60 years the movie industry had a much bigger market to sell to - in the past few decades movies have consistently lost market share to television (there used to be maybe ten channels in any given market, now there are hundreds), video games, the internet, etc.  Home video has been keeping the studios alive while they continued to lose ground to all those other things.   

This is why they've been so adamant about paying low residuals on home video, through numerous strikes by writers and actors etc.

And studios would love to sell their product all over the world, all the time, as much as possible.  It just isn't that easy.   Countries have laws about foreign imports, they have their own movie industries to protect and promote, and there are a finite number of theaters in every country.   Overseas releases have all kinds of local conditions and restrictions to deal with - it's not a matter of picking a date and having theaters available.  They may not be.

For example, the only countries where Carruth's movie isn't for sale online already are the very few where the movie has yet to be released in theaters.   Releasing a movie in theaters requires the hiring of a distribution company who become partners in the release - they book the theaters and take a share of the profits etc.   So I'm guessing his movie isn't online in those markets because that was a requirement by the releasing company. Why go to all that effort to put out a niche movie with tiny market potential as it is - if it's already online?

Movie studios are scrambling to make use of all these new markets, but it's not easy... there are an awful lot of laws and union restrictions and global trade issues to hack through.   And all the while, the market for movies in general continues to shrink.

In the end, I suspect Spielberg and Lucas are right, tentpoles will become fewer, movie production in general will scale down, and that's not necessarily bad.  But there will be a lot more company failures along the way, and jobs will continue to disappear and never come back.

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Well, based off that article I just bought her book.  So I'm doing my part for that revenue stream at least...

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

Oh my god that sounds atrocious. Superman's dad tells him, "You can't die because you're the chosen one!" and Superman is like, "K" and just DECIDES TO COME BACK TO LIFE?!?!?

Eww.  I hated that trick when Harry Potter did it, too.

EDIT:  And when Neo did it, and Jesus, etc.   But that's the trope, we just loves to keep using it.

Well, we seem to have had decent success getting folks to try Butch Cassidy, and The Sting, so maybe that'll help?   See kids?  Just because a movie is from the '70's doesn't mean it's slow and boring. 

Sure, it can mean that - but not always, is my point.   So try some Cowboys, just a little.  Maybe you'll like it!   Then you can watch cartoons.  smile

btw, in addition to The Cowboys, I'm also starting a new campaign to encourage everyone to watch Paper Moon.   Just rewatched that one and... my god.   Soooo good.

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Rob wrote:

The kicker is that Kirk Alyn is actually in the Donner film (!), briefly and uncredited, along with his original Lois (!!).

We mention the Kirk Alyn/Noel Neill cameo when it happens (right around the 36 minute mark). 

However, I said that Neill was the Lois from  the TV show opposite Reeves... what I didn't remember - until I looked it up just now - was she was Lois in the Alyn movie serials and the tv series.

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Tupabab !

auralstimulation wrote:

I love how the entire Internet is writing off Smaug based on 3 seconds of footage.

Seems like only yesterday the internet was losing its collective shit over early stills of Superman's new costume... how time flies.

Of course by the time Hobbit II comes out we should be well into Star Wars pre-production.  I suspect JJ has more people working on plans to troll the internet than he does actually making Episode VII right now.    So strap in, JJ's got a laser pointer and the whole internet is gonna be his cat.  smile

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http://www.pinkfive.com/images/post/gruber.jpg

Which also allows me to appreciate what Terence Malick does, even though I've rarely been able to make it to the end of any of his movies.  smile

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Since White's drawing a straight line between Burton and Snyder, I'm pretty sure when he says "real filmmaker" he means someone who uses and/or experiments with the medium in a way no one else does.    He's not talking about  accessibility, box office results, or even necessarily narrative coherence.

Love it or hate it, a Burton film looks like a Burton film (unless it's somebody else trying to copy the look of a Burton film).  A Snyder film looks like a Snyder film.  And since you mention them, I would put Ang Lee and Gondry into that crowd too, probably even ahead of Nolan. 

But Branagh and Whedon?  Although very talented and capable of making very successful entertainment, they have yet to do anything distinctive or unprecedented with the medium of film.   Which is in no way meant as an insult - they're highly skilled users of the medium, which is still rare enough to deserve all the accolades they get.    Ditto for Cameron and Lucas and even Spielberg. 

As opposed to, say, Kubrick.  And Fincher probably rates the "filmmaker" tag as well.  And I'm not at all sure yet which side of the fence Zemeckis belongs on - that's a toughie.  None of which has anything to do with whose movies I personally enjoy or don't.

Again, I'm just saying I understand what White's getting at, even though he's intentionally giving the back of his hand to a lot of folks with that snerky "real filmmaker" comment.  Doesn't mean he's wrong about there being a difference between crafting popular entertainment and advancing an art form.  Doesn't mean he's right about which of those Man of Steel is, either.

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Well, sure.  I went to that school.

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heh, I guess since it's a glowingly positive review he felt compelled to start with something inflammatory to keep his cred intact.

to be fair, I can sorta see what he means when he says "real filmmaker" - although I'd include Nolan in that category even if White doesn't.

665

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fwiw, Armond White liked it a lot.

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And then the Romans crucify him.   

/Shyamalan!

Ha, you're right - Smaug resembles Onyxia a bit too - especially in the way their mouths are shaped...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090815062361/wowwiki/images/8/85/Onyxia2.png

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Saniss wrote:

As someone who has no idea what Star Trek is about, I wasn't bothered at all by the elements you pointed out.

Exactly.   Abrams did exactly what I suspect he was trying to do - take a niche property and make it mainstream.     As I've said, I found the movie "entertaining" myself... once I realized it was just going to be circus rather than Star Trek.

Just as (to re-use an analogy Dorkman made about a different movie) if a movie called SuperBowl had interesting characters and funny quips and lots of great action setpieces - except "football" in that movie was played with hoverboots and involved catching seagulls - I might find that entertaining, too, because I don't know much, or care about, football.  But someone who's into football might be a bit perturbed. smile

Similarly, I'll probably get around to seeing Man of Steel eventually - and whether I like it or not will have very little to do with whether they got Superman "right" since I'm not a Superman fan.

But Star Trek I have a stake in, so I had some problems with Brand Name We Licensed Into Darkness.   And even if it wasn't a "Star Trek" movie at all, I'd still have been annoyed by all the silly science.  Everything that happened in that movie could still have happened without breaking the rules of reality, if anyone had bothered to care about that.

Okay, now you're just making shit up.

http://www.pinkfive.com/images/post/smaug.jpg

http://www.pinkfive.com/images/post/shrek.jpg

Smaug looks far more like Vermithrax Pejorative or the Reign of Fire dragon. 

But even so, they're all noticeably different in detail...

http://www.pinkfive.com/images/post/vermithrax.jpg

http://www.pinkfive.com/images/post/reign.jpg

If there's a resemblance, it's because they're all dragons.

EDIT:  Speaking of which, we should totally do a Reign of Fire commentary.

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So, Benedict Cumberbatch again?

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[zoidberg.jpg]  smile

if so, I will be pre-ordering that mofo the instant it's announced.

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Unfortunately due to the messy rights issues, there's apparently only been one pan-and-scan DVD release, based off a muddy print.   That's pretty much the only way to see it right now - that's better than nothing, I guess.

I do hope the end result of this new restoration will be a proper widescreen restored video release as well.

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Speaking of Friedkin and movie stills:

http://www.pinkfive.com/images/sorcerer.jpg

I saw this poster at the record store (off my lawn, all of you) and bought it before I even knew what this movie was about.

Contrary to most poster concepts, it doesn't say anything useful about what the hell this movie is.   But it sure made me want to find out. 

btw, the history of Sorcerer is one of those bizarro Hollywood stories that's still ongoing today - it tanked at the time (came out at the same time as Star Wars - oops) and Friedkin's been in legal battles over rights and royalties ever since - which weren't resolved until just now.    He's been doing personal appearances and screenings lately with a restored print, and some folks are calling it an "overlooked masterpiece".

I dunno if I'd go that far, but the bridge scene in that poster is pretty damn awesome.

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*ahem*

/as you were

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Pretty sure Struzan's I Quit story came from Teague's coffee table book The Art of Drew Struzan