I'm no butcher, but I'm pretty sure you can cut a steak from Deer.

Anyway...

Not sure what it says about my psychological make-up (go ahead, call me crazy), but I always thought I'd be just fine with the notion of being a sole survivor.

I was always more partial to the scenarios that left infrastructure pretty much intact though; the "waking up to find that you are the last human on Earth" was always my personal preference.

I'd love to see someone do that premise a-la Sean of the Dead.

Imagine, you wake up, and you realize that no one else is around.  Maybe it even takes you a while to notice.  At first you're confused, but once you get over that you realize that, for example, there's no point in going to work.

Then there's the shopping sprees, driving expensive cars, spending days on end in a bathrobe playing video games on an insanely big t.v., etc.

Finally reality kicks in.  The power goes out, the garbage is piling up, there's no running water, and maybe winter's coming on.

I'd leave it to a *better writer than myself, but that's the gist of it.

*BTW, if you're that better writer, I reserve story credit. ; )

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DorkmanScott wrote:

I don't play.

I have no contempt for people who do, in fact I bet I would really enjoy it and get really into it if I started playing.

Which is why I won't.

^What he said.  And I have an addictive personality to boot; it's hard enough for me to knuckle down and work sometimes.

Speaking of which...

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Mayhew, which DVD do you have? To my knowledge Fincher has never done a DVD commentary, but I'd certainly like to hear that.

In other news, I can't seem to find Elliot Goldenthal's score anywhere online (at least not, ya know, legit).  Not on Amazon or iTunes; real shame, great score.

Also I came across some details regarding the (eventual) Blu-ray release box set of the four films.

And hopefully it's good news, but Ridley Scott says his next two (that's right TWO) projects will be Alien prequels. Here, and here (care of www.collider.com).

Oh yeah, and they'll be in 3D...

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^ My pleasure.

Chad reminded me of the Gibson script, so I've gone ahead and found (I think) all the other proposed scripts, as well as a couple other resources. 

Wiki article on the various writers

Excellent breakdown of the writing process with links to the following scripts by:

William Gibson
Eric Red
David Twohy
John Fasano, based on Vincent Ward's story
Walter Hill and David Giler rewrote the script after Ward left production, and Rex Pickett did a rewrite after David Fincher was brought on

The "final" draft is credited to Giler and Hill, and most closely resembles what appears in the Assembly Cut.  In editing at least 40 minutes hit the editing room floor for the theatrical cut.

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I'd suggest using the Twitter / Facebook option for sign in to cut down on chat spammers.

And so everyone knows who everyone else is.

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downinfront wrote:

...I'd wager the core audience of a remake of Karate Kid are people who were eight when the original came out. Not, you know, martial arts enthusiasts.

As someone who was seven when Karate Kid came out, I remember watching it often, and even took a bit of Tang Soo Do.  I liked what they did with the sequel, but I have zero interest in the remake.

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Copies of the Blu-ray/DVD of Avatar can be obtained here, as well as the standalone DVD.

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Gregory Harbin wrote:

You guys kinda gloss over this, so I'm gonna drop it in the thread: does anyone have any idea what a 'Double Y correctional facility' is? Women are XX, men are XY. What is YY?

Just for you Greg.

The Double-Y Chromosome stereotype, debunked since 1968

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http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae340/downinfrontshow/alien3.jpg

Pick up Alien 3 on DVD as well as the soundtrack by Elliot Goldenthal at the Down in Front store

Alien 3 on IMDB.

Alien 3 20th Century Fox logo fanfare

Construx!

Van Ling was hired by James Cameron, after building his own working copy of the power loader from Aliens

H.R. Giger's concept art for Alien 3
http://www.littlegiger.com/movies/alien3.jpg

RIP Dan O'Bannon, thanks for giving the world Alien
http://cinemagia.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dan_obannon.jpg
September 30, 1946 – December 17, 2009

Walter Hill, along with David Giler and Gordon Carroll form Brandywine Productions

The Double-Y Chromosome stereotype, debunked since 1968

Richard Edlund, and Boss Film Studios

Fincher started out at Propaganda Films, which also produced such names as Michael Bay, Michel Gondry, and Alex Proyas

Fincher's music videos, and commercials

A breakdown of Fincher's music video for Nine Inch Nail's Only, with work by Digital Domain who most recently worked on Fincher's The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Express Yourself

Alien 3 teaser trailer

Steve Perry's three part series Earth Hive, Nightmare Asylum and The Female War present and alternate continuation from Aliens; just swap the names Wilks for Hicks, and Billie for Newt

Perry also penned a three part Aliens vs. Predator series Prey, Hunter's Planet, and War

*I heartily endorse these novels, and if you can find them, the Dark Horse graphic novels on which they are based.  Both do an excellent job of fleshing out the Aliens and Predator universe.  Perry's work on the Predator universe is especially impressive, going so far as to invent terminology for the Predator culture and technology.

Joss Whedon's Alien Resurrection script
*Alt-F, search for Morse

Hitchcock cameos

At least 10 main characters are killed off in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

The Sulaco
http://bobburns.mycottage.com/baseIMAGES/38.jpg
Care of Bob Burns

Predators trailer, and website

Adaptations of The Most Dangerous Game

The unused Queen facehugger

Star Wars Infinities is what I was thinking of

Shadows of the Empire

Anamorphic lenses produce flattened bokeh

Several of William Goldman's books are available at the store

Perfect Movie

Alien 3 theatrical trailer

Studio 60

Vincent Ward was hired based on his work on The Navigator, and would later direct What Dreams May Come

The Glossary!

Non-sequitur

David Mamet

Łódź, Poland

Outliers, by Malcom Gladwell, available at the store

Asperger syndrome

Tyler Perry

Laser Cats!

Save the cat

Saint Crispin's Day speech, originally from Shakespeare's Henry V
*Taken from Renaissance Man

Tom Woodruff Jr and Alec Gillis formed Amalgamated Dynamics after Aliens

Laine Liska

Silicon Graphics

Now go listen to the Se7en commentary

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If I could take us back a few pages, as someone who hasn't taken Art History, could someone put this into Captain Dummy talk for me?

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Invid wrote:

Is this the theatrical Aliens 3, or the directors cut? I have the 4 disk set with just the theatrical so this must be asked smile

Yes it's the theatrical, and technically since Fincher didn't have anything to do with the it, the extended edition is refereed to as the "Assembly Cut."

Personally I prefer the longer (41 minutes) cut, but as we so often say, your mileage may vary.  If you haven't seen it I highly endorse it, but be forewarned, it was cut together with mostly raw footage, on-set audio, and temp effects. 

Here's a link to it on Amazon.

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TrowaGP02a wrote:

Is the book the Bible?

LOL, Trowa FTW!

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Earlier today the Twitterverse saw a conversation sparked by Roger Ebert's post Video games can never be art.

There was a response from Penny Arcade, and a further rebuttal from P Z Myers.

Our own Dorkman, Teague, Ryan, and Eddie hashed it out on Twitter; check their pages for the full conversation.



I would have to say that the issue comes down to how you define art, which itself is a sticky subject, because one cannot define art without invoking the idea of aesthetics, or beauty, and beauty as they say, is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I'd say that yes, video games are as much art as film.  There are arguments regarding the interactive nature of video games vs. movies; in a video game you create the experience as you go.

I don't fully understand the objection to the dynamic aspect of the video game experience, vs. the static experience of a movie (or a painting, sculpture, or The Golden Gate Bridge for that matter), so maybe someone here can help me with that.

So what do you think?

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Live long and prosper bitches!  Hit the links to boldly go where everyone else has already been...before.

Pick up Star Trek DVD, Blu-ray, and Score at the Store

Star Trek on IMDB

Fridge logic

Michael Giacchino's Oscar acceptance speech has been pulled from YouTube as of this posting.

The Last Lecture

J.J. Abrams at TED

Hook sequence

Black holes

Andrew Kramer

47

Kobayashi Maru, available at the store

Geodesic dome

Vasquez Rocks, we've been there.

Sabrina Morris

R2-D2!
http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/r2d2_star-trek1.jpg
(right click, view image)

Magic bean

The Naked Time

Ryan beams himself to Vulcan,http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae340/downinfrontshow/vasquez_beam-in.jpg
photographed at Vasquez Rocks

also,

Ryan's warp speed desktop: http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae340/downinfrontshow/osx_warp.jpg
Right click, set as desktop, enjoy!

Delta Vega

Zordon is a racist

Mark Lenard

George Takei on Geekza

Taste of the gag reel

Red Letter Media

Leonard Nimoy photography

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*Googles "Tauren Hunter," not wanting to be terribly uncool.*

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Pick up Contact the movie and the book at the Down in Front store.

Contact on IMDB

Carl Sagan

Inverse Square Law

"Out of Gas"

Save the cat moment

Atheism

As you know...

The 2010 Decennial Census

Richard Dawkins

Robert Zemeckis

Arecibo Obervatory

The VLA

JPL

DSN

ERAU

Technobabble

Rachael Taylor, enjoy.

CSIRO

Culver City

Lucha VaVoom

SETI

Color correction

Penn & Teller

Pete Stark, atheist congresssman

The whites of their eyes...

...one fewer god than you

Alien contact cheat sheet

The secret of Life

Time traveler's cheat sheet

The Milky Way

George Carlin - A place for my stuff

Contact, by Carl Sagan

Ken Ralston

Contact - The Soundtrack by Alan Silvestri

A perfect movie

Carl Sagan Bibliography

Amadalan...

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Twig: You should read the book.  I brought my copy with me over there and read it so much it fell apart.

I forgot about this in the show, but for a better idea of my deployment, track down a copy of Gunner Palace (I've linked to it in the store).  It's a documentary of a sister unit of mine (2/3 FA) shot about the same time I was there.

The thing about our deployment was that we didn't do a lot of Field Artillery stuff.  Some guys got to fire rounds, but for the most part we were assigned to security and patrol type duties, duties more in line with what you might ask an MP (Military Police) unit to do.  The early days of the war were a lot like that, units getting re-tasked to fill a role they hadn't trained for.  Hopefully that's changed by now, but it wouldn't surprise me if it hasn't.

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Gregory Harbin wrote:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/indieEaglet/bchpls.jpg

Right on, I spent a whole lot of time over there transporting stuff around with these.

I've got some of my pictures from over there on my Webshots account.  Feel free to poke around.

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I'd like to dedicate this episode to the fallen members of my unit from 4th Battalion, 27th Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Armored Division, Baumholder, Germany.

Staff Sgt. Kevin C. Kimmerly
Spc. Christopher J. Holland
Staff Sgt. Esau G. Patterson Jr.
Staff Sgt. Jeffrey F. Dayton
Sgt. Ryan M. Campbell
Spc. James L. Beckstrand
Spc. Justin B. Schmidt
Pfc. Ryan E. Reed
Pfc. Norman Darling
Pfc. Jeremy Ricardo Ewing

Now...

Need a copy? Pick up the DVD or Blu-Ray at the Down in Front Store

The Hurt Locker on IMDB

Quotes from writer Mark Boal's Playboy article The Man in the Bomb Suit

The opening quote is from War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning, by Chris Hedges, an excerpt of which can be found here

My job, Cannon Crewmember

Eddie's job, Ammunition Specialist

1st Armored Division

Army Enlisted Rank Structure

Footprint in the snow

155mm HE

Sabot round

As you know...

Stacking

M-4

M-9

Deuce and a half

PLS

ACU, DCU, "Chocolate-Chips"

Micheal Totten

Blackwater

29 Palms

Browning M-2

Barrett M-82

Camelbacks have largely replaced canteens for carrying water

The LXD on TED

Ft. Sill

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The Fallen had his shot, here's ours.

Pick up Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen, or any of the films we’ve commented on and more at the Down in Front Store.

Transformers 2 on IMDB

Magic beans

Paramount / DreamWorks Transformers intro

Rum & Coke, in case you need a recipe.

Fridge logic

Amadalan…

Walter Peck

NEST

British Flag

As you know...

Wordplayer

Trust the audience

Conservation of detail

Anamorphic

Bokeh

Save the cat moment

Red Letter Media

White cape / Black cape

Titan

Suspension of disbelief

Transitive property

String theory

Dolly grip

Set up / Pay off

Boobs

The SR-71 Blackbird

Shia's accident

Macguffin

Griffith Observatory

Kill the cat moment

Moore's law

Retcon

Vaudevillian

Hanging a lantern

F-4 Phantom

Enola Gay

P-51 Mustang

The Concorde

The Wright flyer

Mercury capsule

Orson Welles quote

*At this point Tequila shots are required

National Air & Space Museum

Smithsonian Museum

Airplane graveyard

Faust

Proxima Centauri

Sharia

Burqa

Edwards Air Force Base

Deep Roy

Aliens build that...

Eddie Izzard - Scooby-Doo, from Dress to Kill

F-22 Raptor

Constructicons

Dinobots

Detonation Films

RvD2

Bob Forward

Beast Wars

Render Farm

Hovercraft

John C. Stenace

Nimitz class aircraft carrier

Embry Riddle

JPL

Rail gun

Battle of Who Could Care Less

Verizon Fios commercial

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Show notes for Titanic.  Our hearts will go on and on.

Get Titanic at the Down in Front Store!

RMS Titanic

Starship Troopers on DVD, or Blu-ray.

Digital Domain: The Leading Edge of Visual Effects on Amazon.com

James Cameron at TED: Before Avatar ... a curious boy

Titanic’s final resting spot, 2.5 miles down

Shots where you see both submersibles are models shot dry for wet

Ghosts of the Abyss on Amazon.com

Aliens of the Deep on Amazon.com

Akademik Mstislav Keldysh

Gloria Stuart

John Jacob Astor IV

Set up / Pay off

William GoldmanWhich Lie Did I Tell? , Adventures in the Screen Trade , The Big Picture: Who Killed Hollywood? and Other Essays
Teague: Big Picture has his Titanic essay in it along with the What's wrong with Private Ryan essay, and other delights

David Warner

Irony

Blake SnyderSaveThe Cat! The Last Book on Screenwriting You'll Ever Need

Save the cat moment

Jeanette Goldstein

Van Ling

Banned from the Ranch

Pablo Picasso paintings

Edgar Degas paintings

Margaret “Molly The Unsinkable” Brown

From Trey:  My glitch for this mission was that I incorrectly identified [the actor portraying Captain Edward James "E.J." Smith] as the late Edward Woodward, when the role was actually played by the still very alive Bernard Hill.    The Times regrets the error.

Ugnaught

Morlock

Stock Footage

Cameron’s Oscar speech

Hanging a lantern

The Polar Bear Club

Russell Carpenter

Bernard Fox

Follow Down in Front on Twitter!

Billy Zane

Robert Ballard

J. Bruce Ismay

Jonathan Phillips portrays 2nd officer Charles Lightoller, the most senior surviving officer

I’m On A Boat

Caviar

Fugu fish

The band at the third class party is Gaelic Storm

Titanic on Box Office Mojo

Box Office Mojo All Time Box Office Domestic Grosses Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

Stanford Prison Experiment

Nearer, My God, to Thee

Photo of boy with top on the Titanic

Anachronism (since we keep using the word)

Kate Winslet, enjoy!

Children from Hell

TED Talks: Lewis Pugh swims the North Pole

Glycerin

Pink Five

Patton Oswalt – Sky Cake, off of My Weakness is Strong

The commentary picks up disc / tape 2 at 1:54:41

CQD

The Law of Unintended Consequences

Montezuma's Revenge

Ioan Gruffudd portrays 5th Officer Harold Lowe

Godwin's law

Muse –  Uprising, from The Resistance

Titanic’s band

Ewan Stewart portrays 1st Officer William Murdock

The real J. Dawson

Suction or aeration?

Focus puller

Translight

Liam Tuohy portrays Chief Baker Charles Joughin

Trapcode Particular

Day for night

ND (neutral density) filter

Rods & Cones

Come Josephine In My Flying Machine

Exploitation film

The stock market crash of 1929

Titanic Sound track, Music by James Horner

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Fadhmir wrote:

Brian Daley...also wrote the radio drama of the trilogy; A New Hope runs almost six hours.  They provide more of a back story for Luke and Leia, and fill in a few other storytelling gaps, such as the one Trey mentioned.

The radio dramas fill in quite a bit of background, particularly ANH; well worth obtaininghttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=dowinfromovco-20&l=as2&o=1&a=1565111656 a copy.

I actually made edited versions of each, so that the whole thing plays at once; e.g., ANH now runs just under 5 hours as an Audiobook file.  It's simple enough to do in iTunes and/or Audacity.

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fardawg wrote:

Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Jerusalem was considered to be punishment by God for the people's idolatry. He was also driven insane by God after boasting of his achievements (there is a great Blake painting of this)...

Very interesting; is this the right painting?

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downinfront wrote:

Maybe we should market Down in Front booze. We have that technology at Cahuenga Labs. Hm.

I'll get right on that.

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Trey wrote:

That's right - a remake of a movie that came out three years ago.   Jeebus.

And to think, I was worried about the Spider-man re-boot...