Ummmm.....

They could be pretty quick with Arya - she and the Hound get into a scrape, he goes down and she ditches him... we watch somebody else for a while, then back to her boarding the ship, flashing the coin and saying Valar Morghulis.  Could be done pretty efficiently, and certainly the perfect exit for her for the season.

Hello.  I am Arya Stark.  You killed my mother and brother.  Valar Morghulis.

For that matter, they could accelerate the time in between by making a very minor tweak - she and the Hound were at the Twins as of last week.   The Twins is on the Trident, which leads to the Narrow Sea, and Braavos is across the water from there.   So a ship could be docked very near the Twins and be on its way directly to Braavos.

Although each individual component was still fairly interesting, over the last two books I felt a loss of overall story momentum.    The extreme detail - which I liked up until then - became a bit much.  I wanted everyone to stop having dinners and get going already.

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You're not alone obviously, since that title made it all the way to the final print of a movie.  smile

So let's see, between the previous thread and this one, are we ready to place bets on what we'll see in the season finale?    This is sort of our version of the writer's room - we already know what the story is, we're just deciding how much of it they'll tell this season.

Here are my picks.

Joffrey's wedding - yeah, as much as it might be fun to have it now, I'm now thinking it's pretty unlikely.

The arrival of Coldhands - the perfect closer to Sam's story for this season, and a solid WTF to ponder until next season.   Very likely.

Introducing Lady Stoneheart - as a second surprise built on last week, and to pay off all that time with the Brotherhood and their ability to raise the dead.   Extremely likely.

Jorah banished:  A good reversal, and it's time for it to happen.  Highly likely.

The Hound goes down and Arya sets off alone.  Would make a decent closer to her story this season - we just saw that conversation last week about sticking a sword in his eye.  Would  make sense to follow that up with her having the opportunity but not doing it.  Somewhat likely.

The ones I dunno:

The Lannisters  They didn't get any screen time last week at all, we'll certainly see them this week.  What will we see there?

Jon Snow?

Bran and Co.?

Anyone got a guess about those?

Yeah, it looks like Strong Belwas isn't going to be showing up.    Unless they've been saving him for next season, since Dany's gained a pretty big entourage already.   Maybe if they move Jorah out they'll bring Belwas in. smile

Allison wrote:

I'm guessing it will be brought up in the finale. Unfortunately that means more Daario, but what can you do.

Yeah, the seeds are pretty much planted to have Jorah be disgraced and banished in the next episode.  Another good "what now?" cliffhanger for next season if so.

well, if ALL of this is a red herring and he goes somewhere else with it, then good for him smile

True, but it also works with "Ned doesn't want to talk about that one time in his life when he didn't act with honor".

Well, that's why I think it's both well-written and acted - the clues are there, without telegraphing anything too much.  smile

The real reason I support the Snow is a Targaryaen theory is that it makes sense for the overall story as well - it's a Song of Ice and Fire, after all - all this human squabbling is trivial compared to the power of White Walkers and dragons.   

If Jon Snow is half-Stark and half-Targaryaen, he's the rightful heir to the kingdom - or at least has a viable claim.  Even the Red Wedding makes sense in that big picture - Robb Stark was never the rightful heir, Snow is.  But since he doesn't know that, Snow's been spending his time becoming White Walker Killer In Chief and brokering an alliance between the wildlings and the Watch.

Meanwhile on the other side of the world is Daenerys, who also started from nothing to raise her own army and learn to command dragons.

So far Jon and (his aunt!) Daenerys have been kept as far apart as the geography of Westeros will allow, but  there'll be a meeting at some point.  When that comes they might fall in love, they might join forces against the Walkers, or they may go to war with each other, but I think the real story has always been about the two of them and how they'll ultimately decide the fate of Westeros.

Seriously, check out the scene in episode 2 of the first season, where Ned and Robert have their little picnic chat under the trees.   Robert asks Ned flat-out about Snow's mother and Ned refuses to talk about it.   In the same conversation, Robert also talks about how determined he is to eliminate all traces of the Targaryaen bloodline. 

Watch that scene with the mindset  of "Ned doesn't want Robert to know Snow is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna" and everything Ned says and does makes perfect sense.  smile

According to this interview, when Benioff and Weiss met with Martin for the first time about adapting GoT for TV, he tested the level of their interest in the material by asking "Who's Jon Snow's mother?"   Apparently they gave the right answer.

Anyway, unless it's all been a completely genius red herring, I'm currently going with the Rhaegar/Lyanna theory as well.   And the strongest evidence isn't in the books, it's in the show.   

Think about it - there must be all sorts of things that Martin's got planned that haven't been published yet.  But the makers of the show still have to know them now, so they don't unwittingly make any changes or cuts that will wreck something later.     (Same way the writers of the middle Potter movies ran everything past Rowling to make sure they weren't going off in a wrong direction.)

So when it comes to the topic of Snow's true parents, look at how the show has dealt with it - especially in the scenes between Ned and Robert in the very first episodes.    Everything Ned says - or avoids saying, or changes the subject - supports the idea that Jon is Lyanna's son.   

It's the last thing he could ever admit to Robert, for plenty of reasons.   That knowledge would unleash such a shitstorm that Ned was willing to let his own wife sorta hate him for fathering a bastard, when he did no such thing.   Which is completely IN character for Ned, whereas having a roll in the hay with a tavern wench isn't.

So watch what Sean Bean does - and listen to how carefully written his lines are -  in any scene where Snow or Lyanna are mentioned.  He knows.  smile   He had to, to know how to play it.

Jon Snow's mom!   Or Teague's mom.   Somebody's mom.

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Yeah, my argument FOR Joffrey's wedding as the season-ender is that it shakes everything the hell up, and says that the war for the throne isn't over after all.  And there's been SO much setup for Joffrey's wedding all season - from a dramatic standpoint, this would be the perfect time for the Lannisters to now have the wedding as their ultimate victory dance.  And then... oopsy.

It's also a nice gift for the viewers who've been hating Joffrey so hard and yet he's remained untouched all this time.    It would be just as much a shocker as the Red Wedding, but in a GOOD way.  smile   

I'm sure they anticipated the number of people who said last week "the hell with this show, nothing good ever happens!"... if it was me, I'd want to throw the viewers a bone to say "look, something GOOD for a change!"

Finally from a production standpoint, if they get Joffrey off the show NOW then they don't have to deal with him getting suddenly older again next season - a problem with ALL the kids.  They can't do anything about Arya, Samsa and Bran, but they did finally get Rickon outa the picture last week.   smile

On the other hand, I haven't looked closely enough at the timeline to know for sure if bumping up the Purple wedding would scramble things too much to be practical.   

If not, then Coldhands, Lady Stoneheart, and launching Arya toward  Braavos would all make fine season-end cliffhangers...and if you look at the way they've been building those storylines all season, they all seem fairly likely.

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I buy that... they could move up the finale with the Hound to wrap him up this season and stretch Arya's time in Braavos over next season. 

Coldhands would be a good WTF game-changer, and it's exactly time for him to show up, so I suspect you're right about that one.

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Seeing the reaction to this, I REALLY can't wait for the Purple Wedding, presumably early next season. Hell, they might even push it to next week's finale, just to make fans feel better.

Yep. 

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The finale needs to get the audience intrigued about what the next season will bring, so they'll have to  give a few hints/introduce some new elements/etc.    I can make a case for why the Purple wedding could be the season finale, I can also see why they'd wait until next season.   Could go either way.

I think the most likely OMG they'll use as their season-ender will be to introduce Lady Stoneheart - which would make a nice followup to last week, and pay off all the "Brotherhood Without Banners" info they've planted through this season.

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Jimmy B wrote:

Although the phrase 'cock juggling thundercunt' will go down as one one of the best movie insults ever.

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fireproof78 wrote:

But, but...Ryan Renolds  neutral

Yeah, the scene where Reynolds screams insults at Vampire Parker Posey is definitely a highlight.

Also, Jessica Biel.  Mmmmm.

Blade 3 was written (and directed) by David Goyer who wrote all the Blade movies, also Dark City, Batman Begins and several other pretty darn good things.  FWIW, his script for Blade 2 was, at the time, the best-written script I ever read.

Well, she's taking it rather well.   But of course

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she knows her gig is going to run several more seasons at least.

Oh Shit, I Totally Forgot That Happens! by George RR Martin

Actually, we book-readers know the real tragedy in this episode was:

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In fact, Rickon and Osha split from the group in Book Two and have yet to be seen again.    The TV show kept them around an entire extra season, most likely so their vanishing wouldn't last even longer.

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A Lannister always... wait, what?

Doctor Submarine wrote:

Name another show that's done something even CLOSE to what they did last night.

Well, Battlestar Galactica whacked several major characters over its run.  But not all at once.  smile

What's so brilliant about this turn of events is that it seems like the story is effectively over.  But since this was built-in from day one, there have been plenty of clues about what sorts of turns might be coming next.  Everyone who's still standing is going to be affected by this... and some are gonna start heading in radically different directions as a result.   Wheeee.

Clearly, the reason they put this in the second-to-last episode is so the season finale can show how much this changes the game for next season.

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So close...

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Armond White's review of After Earth

I'm a fairly intelligent person, but that was so frickin' convoluted I'm not even sure if he thought it was good or not.

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Here's an especially tasty scorcher of a review: http://www.startribune.com/entertainmen … 17811.html

It's so good that someone already pulled a quote from it to make this:

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