Camille Paglia's been saying controversial things for decades. It doesn't ruin her career, it IS her career.
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Camille Paglia's been saying controversial things for decades. It doesn't ruin her career, it IS her career.
also....where can i find this amazing runway? i'd love to see someone crunch the numbers on it, but that thing had to have been at least 10 miles long, probably closer to 15. hilarious, yet i just don't care.
The internet has your back on this one...
But what can you expect from people who turned Dirty Dancing into Swirling Sex?
I would expect great things. Very great things.
But.....but.....it has THIS in it-
Yeah, in the LAH commentary when I said comedy isn't really McT's thing... that's exactly the moment I was thinking of.
However, there's just that and one or two other blatant fan service moments in the whole movie - the rest is solid.
you all did a movie with John McTiernan, Shane Black and Arnie, and it wasn't my beloved?
Teague apparently just refuses to watch that movie.
The latest on McT and his prison sentence. It's a pretty messed up situation all around.
Good point. *waves hands mysteriously* Done!
So...
Before I even start thinking about that - I'm still trying to figure out how
Apparently those torpedoes have loads of empty space in them, in case you need to hide a person or your CD collection or whatnot.
That's yet another result of the way the story is sorta based on the original series and sorta not.
In the original series...
It turns out that Khan and co. escaped Earth in a sleeper ship (because warp drive didn't exist yet) . Wherever they were trying to go, they didn't get there. So the Enterprise finds their ship adrift in deep space. They revive Khan and figure out too late who he and his people are. Hijinks ensue.
The movie apparently assumes we know that story already, but also doesn't stick to it. Hence, a mess.
How am I just finding out about this movie now?
Nice helmet...
It's not just that
Dr. McCoy lives on a starship in the future, and the best medical test he can come up with is something you'd expect to see on Game of Thrones?
So yes, super dumb.
I actually met a guy just last weekend who lives in Tasmania. It was sort of surreal - like meeting someone from Narnia. Or the moon.
Could be. Also, I'm pretty sure we're in the same karass.
/just gotta figure out what the wampeter is
Speaking of whom:
Damon Lindelof admits the Star Trek underwear scene was "gratuitous"
Now if we can just get him to admit the same about the rest of the movie...
Well, I saw it. In all honesty I was more entertained than I was by Iron Man III, but that's not saying a lot. It's a collection of really well-crafted moments of action and stuff, but always motivated by [insert implausible justification here].
Really, it's Prometheus again. Beautiful eye candy with a semblance of meaning, but all happening for reasons that are completely ridiculous. As hard as we were on Prometheus for being ignorant of how reality works, Into Darkness deserves the same treatment. If anything, this Trek is even more Written By A Kid than Prometheus.
Most especially, for me, this scene:
Because I'm obviously not a real doctor. I'm clearly a lunatic.
You find me a legitimate medical lab anywhere on the planet where somebody is injecting human blood into a dead rat and expecting something to happen, and I will pay you one meelion dollars.
And don't even get me started on
There's really no need to list all the bogus nonsense in the movie, or argue about it, or try to explain it. The explanation for all of it is simple - the filmmakers didn't know jack, and they either didn't realize they don't know jack, or they didn't care. They didn't even care about - or understand - Trek's canonical made-up science to stay consistent with that.
So me, I'd call it a really entertaining movie, as long as you ignore how completely stupid it is.
The part of the equation you're skipping is that the water on Earth doesn't stay in one place - it's in a constant cycle of evaporation and precipitation. Water evaporates everywhere, and air currents carry the water vapor to other parts of the planet. Some of the vapor ends up at the poles, where it gets cold and falls as snow.
If global temps are above a certain level, that snow - plus a little extra - melts every summer. So over time the ice caps shrink, and more liquid water is added to the global system. That's the state we're in right now. To be fair, this has been the state of the planet since the end of the last Ice Age - technically we're still IN the last stages of the last Ice Age. The concept of "global warming" is really about the great acceleration of the warming process that we're seeing now.
Conversely, in a cooling trend the snow at the poles doesn't all melt in the summer. So every year the poles trap a bit more of the planet's water and prevent it from returning to the sea. Also, the colder the planet gets, the farther from the poles the "no-melt" zone gets too, and so the ice sheets grow outward as well as upward. At the height of the last Ice Age, much of North America and Europe were covered in glaciers. That adds up to a lot of water that isn't in the ocean anymore.
This is the natural process of the planet, it's ongoing every day. When the overall temperature trends one direction or other, the world's ice/water ratio gradually shifts as well, over thousands of years. The polar ice sheets have disappeared and re-formed at least five times in Earth's history.
But nothing in AI suggests an explanation for the completely unnatural scenario of a frozen Earth with a high sea level.
I suspect it's ignorance on the part of the filmmakers, rather than some grand plan, in the case of both AI and Waterworld. You're right that semi-flooded Manhattan is sorta plausible if the ice caps melted completely. But "Waterworld" isn't - even with a total thaw there'd still be a lot of land left.
During an Ice Age, the world's water DOES accumulate as ice at the poles, lowering sea levels. When the planet heats up again, the stored ice melts back into the ocean, raising sea levels again. That's exactly how it works.
AI would have us believe that sea levels rose a hundred or more feet - presumably due to ice melt, because where else could the water come from? And then a millenium later the earth froze... but somehow the water didn't recede again.
This would only happen if the whole world froze at once, a la Day After Tomorrow. Which is theoretically possible for a few reasons - supervolcano eruption, meteor or comet impact, nuclear winter - some sort of disaster that covers the whole planet in heavy cloud or dust, blocking all sunlight and creating freezing temperatures across the entire planet simultaneously.
Although it's possible the movie had that in mind, it doesn't mention it.
So at face value the movie seems to be saying "Earth warmed up, sea levels rose. Earth cooled down, sea levels stayed the same". Which suggests they didn't quite think their clever scheme all the way through.
Unless the movie is suggesting Manhattan sank INTO the sea, which is also rather a silly idea.
Welp, looks like ST:ID will fall well short of matching the opening weekend of the first one. Not a bomb, but not exactly blockbuster-y either. But it's making more than the first one in the rest of the world, so ultimately it shouldn't cause anyone to lose their job.
Data here (but don't click if you're still staying spoiler-free) http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/star-tr … -and-imax/
Next weekend's results will really tell the tale, but even so, the "what went wrong?" post-mortems are already underway. Overall this one's looking like a bit of a damp squib - it'll do okay in the end but it's not breaking any records or garnering a lot of raves. If you actually look at the text of those "Fresh" Rotten Tomatoes reviews, they're mostly pretty lukewarm.
Still haven't seen it myself, btw. Might later today.
Why does this keep coming back to the weapons? That's not what the complaints were about.
I think The Bloggess has pretty much the best take on it...
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