To be fair, I think it would've been even more terrible if it was the exact same ship. I hated hated hated the idea of seeing what happened to the original ship, and the notion that humans had been on it before.
They should've never even started with that as the main idea to begin with, because it's an idea that's destined to fail.

May I just say bravo Teague, you did a really impressive job of moderating what was a very large and intense panel and keeping discussion flowing smoothly.

I think my brain is just wired in this weird way where I specifically can't enjoy animated Disney files. Every single one I've tried to watch I mostly can't stand, except for maybe Aladdin. I'm certain it's me and not the movies, but I just cannot get past the kidiness and the songs. Not a new thing either, even as a 5 year old I'd prefer Alien/Predator or something to disney. I love Looney Tunes though, so it really is this weirdly specific thing. I suspect it's because Looney Tunes is more willing to play darker and more cynical, but I can't really articulate the difference.

Part of it is expectations too. Both trailers for Prometheus are some of the best cut trailers I've seen in years, and made this look like it would be absolutely fucking amazing and the best movie this year. They hinted at a body-snatchers/the-thing infection type storyline that I was convinced they would use because it seemed perfect for a non-alien horror film in that universe. Suffice it to say, that was really no-where in the movie and what they went with was retarded and lame. And it retro-actively fucked up Alien by giving a horrible back-story for those events. I gotta admit I haven't been that furious and offended by a movie since Terminator Salvation.

And you know what, I'm right there with you. 2 will stand against many...etc.

Maybe not about the villain, though I like both a lot, but Dark Knight Rises I think finally nails a good middle ground between the comic-bookier elements of Batman Begins and the Too Serious for it's own good Dark Knight.

I caught the last 30 minutes of Dark Knight on cable about a week back, and it's honestly really hard to take seriously. You have a guy in a bat suit, a cop, and a a guy with half his face burned off standing in a circle yelling overly written dialogue at each other while dramatic music plays, and it just does not work for me anymore. I think Nolan went so far to try to replicate Heat with superheros, that it really undermines the movie when it gets ridiculous and contrived with the ferries towards the end.

Dark Knight Rises is kinda ridiculous and comic-booky from the outset so the crazier stuff doesn't feel out of place within the context of the film, and if you wanna talk about stakes, I think it has greater stakes than almost any movie I've seen in years. And just visually, it's on a completely other level from most comic book movies, and makes Avengers look like a TV movie by comparison.

Well like we say, a perfect movie doesn't mean you or everyone will like it, but I would argue The Grey completely delivers and executes on its themes and what it's trying to do. I know some people hate the ending but I believe its the exact right ending for the story they're telling.

Also, I agree completely about Looper, its in my good not great list.

While I would prefer that they'd gone with a Star Trek type mission crew piloting the thing, I think the neural link think will be fine if this has the kind of tone that I think it will.

If this were tonally trying to be a hard sci-fi film like Prometheus I would agree with you it's a stupid choice, but I think this movie is going to be way more playful and less serious, much more of an anime vibe. I mean the whole thing is inherently ridiculous, if you want to go down that route I'd say in what universe is the most practical way to fight giant monsters the manufacturing of ginormous bi-pedal robots, instead of you know, nuking them, or coming up with one of a million more efficient ways to accomplish the task.

I was kinda iffy on it to, until I got home and watched it full-screen 1080p. The vfx look waaay better when you see them on a proper screen, it's the Avatar/LOTR effect, there's so many tiny details that help sell the effect that you don't notice if you're just watching it in a small window.

I do love the shit out of that line, surprised no-one's used it before in a movie.

If Schwarzeneggar's End of Days had been the goofy Arnie vs Satan action movie it should've been, instead of a shitty way-too-serious piece of crap, that would've been a perfect one-liner for the ending.

I think it'll be pretty goddamn awesome, but I am hoping some of the stuff in there isn't final renders, cause while some of it looks great (especially most of the robot shots), the cg destruction and most of the creature shots look pretty fake in spots. As soon as my eye catches that a big destruction scene is all cg, I get totally pulled out of the action scene, so that last money shot does nothing for me. Del Toro is usually great about avoiding this problem (except for 3 shots in Blade 2, and 2 of those are so badass they're worth it) though, so I'm not very worried.

I am so fucking down for Man of Steel. It looks like Snyder toned his style way down, and I actually love the look of this. Gone is the awful CG artificiality of Watchmen and Sucker Punch, this thing looks super tactile, almost Terrence Malick in spots. Super pumped for this now.