901

(991 replies, posted in Off Topic)

It's just personal taste, isn't it? If you don't like it, you don't like it, no big deal smile

902

(28 replies, posted in Off Topic)

By 'who's your Doctor?' (heh, a pun) do you mean the one you grew up with or the one you saw first? For me that is McCoy......

My favourite is maybe Tennant but Smith is getting there, he's sneaking up, he's closing in.....

Cabin In The Woods.....

or Pitch Perfect...... http://www.empireonline.com/forum/upfiles/smiley/augen14.gif

Book's background, according to the comic The Shepherd's Tale is thus (don't read if you plan on reading the comic)- his real name is Henry Evans and was born into an abusive family. He ran away and turned to petty crime before being recruited by the Independents and volunteers to be a mole for the 'Browncoats'. Evans gets a video transmitter implanted into one of his eyes to record what he sees before killing a man called Derrial Book to steal his identity. He then joins a law enforcement agency before being recruited by the Alliance becoming a high-ranking officer over time. 'Book' intentionally jeopardises a mission, causing the death of thousands of Alliance soldiers and is discharged and dumped on a nearby planet in disgrace. A few years later, he is beaten to near death by Alliance soldiers for his part in the disaster and wakes up in a homeless shelter. It is here where Evans 'finds God' and joins a church becoming a Shepherd. After ten years, he becomes a missionary and joins the crew of the Serenity.

Had to take some of that from online but I knew most of it as I read the comic a couple of years ago.This is exactly what Whedon had planned for Book in the show over time.  The comic is told in flashbacks as Book remembers them when he is dying before Mal turns up in the Serenity movie. If I recall correctly, it is told out of order so you don't really find out about him killing a dude and taking his identity until towards the end of the book......

905

(11 replies, posted in Off Topic)

There are no set rules regarding the personalities of cats and dogs, it very much depends on the breed. I have seen dogs be just as sneaky and conniving as cats are said to be and I have never known a domesticated cat to kill someone.

I dislike and don't trust dogs but basically I am with Pav, both have their pros and cons and can be awesome in their own ways. I do like that the pic Ash posted isn't actually saying one party is better than the other....

906

(11 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I really don't like dogs.

What? http://www.empireonline.com/forum/upfiles/smiley/augen14.gif

907

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I am writing this post on the new tablet I got off my lovely mum.

It is awesome :-)

908

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Saniss wrote:

My thoughts go to Ash and his wife and son. I can't imagine what the past year has been to you guys. I can only be glad things are starting to get better for you and wish you a bettter year to come.

+1

909

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Thanks for shitting on my joke there, Av.......

big_smile

910

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Oh, hush you big_smile

Of course, we all should not forget that today marks the anniversary of the birth of someone special, someone magical, someone who has given joy and enlightenment to millions over the years. I am obviously speaking of Annie Lennox from The Eurythmics who celebrates her birthday on this day. Happy Lennoxmas to you all......

What?

You sneaky wee buggers!

I may have to buy the show on Blu Ray now big_smile

912

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

On the plus side.....Blu Rays are awesome.....

913

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

If Santa gives me that, I'm hunting him down and punching his fat face big_smile

I have a present here but I promised I wouldn't open it until the morning. It's just sitting there, taunting me. Shut up, present! I can wait!!!

914

(1,649 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I think this is both cool and cheesy. It is a pairing that never should have worked and almost didn't happen. It is also one that will never happen again-

915

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Sod it-

916

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to my international cyber-friends, I love you all.  Yes, even you (points at nobody in particular for added paranoia.....) big_smile

Hope red-suited sack-man is kind to all and may I offer you all this instead of a song?

smile

Smith and Jones had the honour of having the second ever Comic Relief single after the Young Ones. Why am I just including it now, you ask? Because it is a cover of Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree so I thought I’d put it last. Teaming up with Kim Wilde, Smith sings while Jones pops up every now and then to moan. The song, credited to Mel & Kim was released in December 1987 but only got to number three. It is still played on the radio around the festive season and usually pops up on Christmas song compilations cds.

Featured in the music video were the Spitting Image puppets for Tina Turner and Bette Midler, for some reason. Spitting Image, a satirical show solely featuring a cast of puppets, had its own shot at a Christmas single the year before with Santa Claus Is On The Dole. Written by Rob Grant and Doug Naylor who went on to create Red Dwarf, the single featured at the end of that year’s Christmas special of Spitting Image.

Fun Fact: Rather than do another song for the B side of Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree, Mel Smith did a sketch minus Griff Rhys Jones entitled Deck The Bloomin’ Halls…

Merry Christmas smile

Hale and Pace brought their own brand of ‘comedy’ to the charity single in 1991 with The Stonk. An original composition written by the duo with Joe Griffiths and produced by Brian May from Queen, the song was based around a fictional dance craze and the video featured some TV stars. If it wasn’t a song for charity, I’d very much question why the piece of crap got to number one…..

The Stonk was released as a double a-side record with The Smile Song written and performed by Victoria Wood. Considering she has more talent in her little finger than either Gareth or Norman have in their entire bodies, this should have got more airplay. After all, it was also for charity.

Fun Fact: I really don’t like Hale and Pace……

919

(60 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I saw Pitch Perfect and Dredd last night and they're great but I'm not sure where they stand in my top ten, if at all (though Pitch Perfect just might because it's great fun, I had a blast with it, though I could have done without the vomiting.....)

French and Saunders teamed up with comedic actress Kathy Burke to do a piss take on popular girl group Bananarama. Calling themselves Lananeeneenoonoo, they had the fortune of actually teaming up with the real group for a cover of Help by The Beatles. The song reached number three in the UK charts in 1989 and again made a lot of cash for the worthy cause of Comic Relief.

Five years later, Saunders dumped French and got Joanna Lumely as their characters from Absolutely Fabulous for another Comic Relief single with the Pet Shop Boys under the name Absolutely Fabulous singing the song…..Absolutely Fabulous. Although, Saunders and Lumely only appear in the video and in clips of the show. Fans weren’t as kind this time round, though, as it only got to number 6 in the singles chart.

Fun Fact: Jennifer Saunders also played the Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2 and sang this-

BONUS: Music
A few of the duos in this thread have performed music in one form or another. Adrian Edmondson plays in a band (and wrote and performed songs in spoof band Bad News for The Comic Strip) and others had song routines in their sketch shows on a regular basis. A lot of them, though have actually had hit singles, mostly for charity, and made music videos for such songs. Here, we will start with

Rik and Ade and the rest of the Young Ones (Nigel Planer and Christopher Ryan) singing with popular British singer Cliff Richard and a version of his 60s hit Living Doll. Rick in the show is a huge fan of the singer but in an ironic way. So much so that Alexei Sayle refused to contribute to the song as he felt collaborating with Cliff was against the alternative ethos of the show. The song reached number one in the UK charts and made a shedload of cash for Comic Relief as its very first charity single.

Oh and Rik Mayall was in the video for this-

Fun Fact: Ade Edmondson sings backing vocals on the theme tune to his wife’s show Ab Fab performed by singer Julie Driscoll. Driscoll had a hit with the song (Bob Dylan’s This Wheel’s On Fire) in the UK in 1968.  There is no video for it, so this is just the song-

922

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

I have always though the blonde guy is very weirdly designed. He doesn't really look.....right......can't quite put my finger on it but he looks odd to me.

Don't see this as me hating the film though! I don't! Honest! big_smile

BONUS: Movie trailers
As I have mentioned throughout the thread, a lot of the double acts took the leap into movies. So, here are trailers for all their films as double acts except Cannon and Ball, because I can’t bloody find it but somebody made a video of clips to the theme tune, so it is like a trailer. Even though it's the entire film condensed into three minutes, so actually, it is like a trailer....I feel as though the internet failed me. This is not  merry Christmas..... big_smile

Morecambe and Wise



Cannon and Ball

Smith and Jones


Fry and Laurie-

Mitchell and Webb

Rik and Ade

Peter's Friends and Morons From Outer Space are ensembles, but I included them anyway because, especially in Fry and Laurie's case, films with both in them together are rare. Plus, it's set at Christmas big_smile

That one was for you, Dave smile

I couldn’t really do a UK comedy thread without including these guys. They have been mentioned here and there throughout the thread and since they never had a sketch show, I thought I’d have them here instead. It’s a Christmas miracle, buckle in, it’s a long one- BAM!

BONUS: Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondson
Richard Mayall and Adrian Edmondson met at Manchester University where they studied Drama. It was here where they also met Lise Mayer and Ben Elton, two people who would become important later. Mayall and Edmondson started performing under the name 20th Century Coyote and they became a hit at clubs, especially the Comedy Store in London. It was there they met some more up and coming comics such as Alexi Sayle, Dawn French, Jennifer Saunders, Nigel Planer and Peter Richardson. Together they formed The Comic Strip, a group of alternative comedy performers housed in a new club in London. As well as his act with Ade, Rik performed as Kevin Turvey, a nerdy character that got regular TV slots in the 1981 show A Kick Up The Eighties and a poet called Rick. Mayall also appeared in movies such as An American Werewolf in London and Shock Treatment (the sequel to the Rocky Horror Picture Show). In 1982, however, things were about to get better for both Rik and Ade. New TV station Channel 4 was launching and became interested in bringing The Comic Strip to the small screen. Peter Richardson signed a deal to produce some one-off specials with himself as the main writer (with Pete Richens another member of the group). Around the same time, The BBC wanted a piece of the Alternative Comedy pie and commissioned a series to be written by Rik and his then girlfriend Lise Mayer. With the scripts being touched up by Ben Elton and with producer Paul Jackson in charge for the BBC, the show became The Young Ones. Taking Mayall’s poet character, Rick and with Edmondson as punk Vyvian, Nigel Planer as hippie Neil and Peter Richardson as cool dude Mike, the show was about 4 students living in a squalid house. Not long before shooting was to commence, Richardson bailed after disputes with Paul Jackson.  In turn, Jackson hastily hired non comedian Christopher Ryan as Mike and filming for the show went ahead. The very first episode of the Comic Strip Presents starring Richardson, Edmondson, French and Saunders aired on Channel 4 on November 2nd 1983, the very first episode of the Young Ones aired on BBC 2 one week later. Here is a clip with some familiar faces (from series 2)

The BBC originally baulked when they first saw the show but were so desperate to compete with the youth orientated Channel 4 that they decided to air it after all. A collection of sketches full of slapstick violence and surreal non sequitur moments disguised as a sitcom, the show featured a music performance from bands such as Madness (twice) and Motorhead. This was a genius move by Paul Jackson as it made the show ‘variety’ rather than ‘light entertainment’ according to BBC guidelines so it got a larger budget. Which was a good job as the scripts were very outlandish and pretty big in scope using special fx and puppet work. After a year gap, The Young Ones returned in 1984 bringing its total episode run to 12. They had the chance to do another series but declined stating that Fawlty Towers only lasted a dozen episodes and if it is good enough for John Cleese, it is good enough for them. The year after The Young Ones ended, Ade marries Jennifer Saunders and both he and Jen joined Rik in the sitcom Happy Familes written by Ben Elton. In 1986, Channel 4 wanted a new live comedy show in the vein of hit US show Saturday Night Live. Hiring a host of comedy stars, established and up and coming, Saturday Live would feature Rik and Ade as their 20th Century Coyote characters now christened The Dangerous Brothers….

One Dangerous Brothers sketch was so anarchic for Channel 4 that they banned it, pissing Rik and Ade off no end. They didn’t return for series two when the show was renamed Friday Live due to its change of night. The duo went their separate ways for a year but teamed back up again along with Nigel Planer for Ben Elton’s sitcom Filthy Rich and Catflap. A scathing attack on showbiz, the show featured Rik as Richie Rich, an out of work actor, Planer as Ralph Filthy, Rich’s agent and Ade as Edward Catflap, Rich’s violent minder who doesn’t really care about Rich’s safety. Despite a promise in the last episode’s end credits by a BBC continuity announcer that the show would return (I remember hearing it back in the day), it never did. After the end of the show, the pair worked separately again on occasion.  Rik got praise (and a lot of ratings) for his role of evil Member of Parliament Alan B’Stard in The New Statesmen. During this time, Ade appeared in a stage performance of The Rocky Horror Show as Brad. In 1991, the pair reunited for a show on BBC 2 playing Richie Richard (Rik likes his own name) and Ade as Eddie Hitler in Bottom….

Running for three series, the show was a ratings success for the channel and featured the two as friends…well, I say ‘friends’ but I think it is safe to say that Eddie and Richie just barely tolerate each other. This is out of necessity, however, as nobody else will have them, so they are stuck with each other, forever fighting and screwing each other over. They got the idea for the show after starring together in the stage show Waiting For Godot. Bottom was seen as a cruder version of the play and obvious character comparisons can be made to the stars’ previous incarnations. Richie is basically an older Rik from the Young Ones and Eddie is the slightly milder version of Edward Catflap. Only just as violent. The third and final series aired in 1995 and the BBC declined a fourth but by then, Rik and Ade had been touring venues across the UK with Bottom: The Live Show. As the live material was not owned by the BBC, the video releases were produced by a different company and contained far harsher language that is allowed in the TV version. Five Bottom stage shows were toured between 1993 and 2003 and each one was released on home video. Here is a bout of one-upmanship from the first live show-

Following the 1997 live show, Rik and Ade wrote and starred in their first movie together, Guest House Paradiso. The film marked the directorial debut of Edmondson and despite the fact it was basically just a big screen Bottom (the characters had the same first names but different surnames) the film was mauled by critics. And, in my opinion, rightfully so. I saw it in the cinema when it was released in 1999 and was really disappointed, it seemed so lazy and not really funny. Still, it introduced me to a young actor called Simon Pegg, so it wasn’t all bad. The 2003 Bottom live show marked the final time Rik and Ade worked together. Ade was getting fed up with comedy and wanted to concentrate on other projects, especially music. They went their separate ways and despite a brief appearance together in a show for Comic Relief, they haven't worked together since. Earlier this year, the pair announced they were going to write and star in a new series of Bottom but soon after, Ade stated that plans had been scrapped. He claimed that when he and Rik tried to work together, they remembered why they stopped doing so in the first place. Shame, really.....

Fun Fact: There was supposed to be a second series of the Ben Elton sitcom Happy Families, so much so that the BBC allocated a budget for it when the first ended. It didn’t happen, though, so producer Paul Jackson took the money to finance a sci-fi sitcom called Red Dwarf….

Fun Fact 2: Ade’s nickname at university was Eddie Monsoon which is also a name for an alter-ego of his at the comic strip. Jennifer Saunders took this name for her character Edina Monsoon in Absolutely Fabulous.

Not so fun fact: In 1998, Rik Mayall had a crash on his quad bike on the grounds of his home. He was in a coma for days and doctors were worried he had brain damage. He fully recovered however and he and Ade have joked about the accident during the Bottom live shows after the event. The script for Guest House Paradiso was written in part while Rik was recovering.