951

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

On the subject of found footage horror, I recently discovered the absolutely amazing History Channel documentary 102 minutes that changed america. It uses footage from people all over New York on 9/11 to depict the events in real-time, and it is seriously the most harrowing thing I've ever seen. You wouldn't believe some of the crazy footage they managed to find, the sound design is amazing. To my knowledge it's the only non-fiction found footage horror film that's been made. Whole thing is up on youtube if people are curious:

For those chomping at the bit for a commentary to tear down all the scientific inaccuracies, Double D have posted the 1st commentary for it online (according to Zarban's site), and go quite in depth: http://www.zarban.com/?p=29987

Can tide us over till the official DIF take on it.

953

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Yes, if you wanted to take it to the real extremes, that's exactly what it means. They're ALL wrong, no one is arguing any of these examples aren't terrible, nor are we saying any of them are in any way acceptable, but we're saying there are different "gradations" of bad. You know there's a reason we have different penalties for different types of crimes, we don't just say "shoplifting is bad, murder is also bad, lets in both cases give them life in prison". Similarly, Accidental, unintentional Murder will typically carry a smaller sentence than pre-meditated murder for exactly this reason.

954

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I don't understand why this is so hard for you. You seem to insist on a bizarre explicitly binary morality code. Things aren't either just good, or just bad, you factor lots of things in. Killing an innocent person is bad/irredeemable no matter what. If they're a kid, defenseless, and have yet to live their lives, it's a worse act. Genocide is even worse on the scale.

955

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

The thing is Avatar, I see nothing wrong with enjoying movies that represent a moral code I don't advocate in real life. The fact of the matter is that liberal ideology usually makes for bad/boring entertainment. There's a reason most of the best action directors in history (John Mctiernan for instance) are conservatives. Similarly, James Cameron movies start getting progressively worse the more he tries to inject liberal ideology into them (though admittedly, this was mostly a one-data-point jump from True Lies/Titanic to Avatar, but with the stuff he's talked about for Avatar 2/3, I don't see things getting better).

For movies that I think are incredibly entertaining, but also morally acceptable, I say look no further than the works of Quentin Tarantino.

I think Inglourious Basterds both humanizes Nazi's as real people far more than Saving Private Ryan, and at the same time is a brilliant meta-critique on why we enjoy violent action propaganda in the first place.

Reservoir Dogs is taking what would be a typical "entertaining" gangster story, and showing what horrible violence those types of stories typically gloss over, how terrifying just a gunshot wound is.

Kill Bill is taking a typical revenge story and grounding the characters in a level of reality inside the revenge universe, to where the story ends up feeling tragic rather than triumphant at the end.

956

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Son of Doty is not to be messed with

957

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I said "lesser" tragedy, doesn't mean it's not a tragedy.

If you want to argue that you'd save an old-man instead of a child given the binary choice, be my guest.

And I don't even like kids.

958

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Or even beyond that, adults have at least had a chance to live through a certain part of their lives. The younger a victim is, the more troubling it gets because of how much they are losing, whereas killing a 100 year-old feels inherently like a lesser tragedy.

959

(569 replies, posted in Creations)

Zarban is people

960

(23 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Ya, at best you could do it for certain movies, like a gritty street-level crime movie like French Connection, or Collateral (the only time I've liked Michael Mann's digital cinematography). Anything slightly fantasy or sci-fi at all is going to be jarring as fuck

961

(23 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I personally hate it with a passion in every example I've seen (similar to how I hate shutter crime in things like Public Enemies), but I'm willing to withhold judgement until I see The Hobbit shot and projected in the format.
Personally, I think it just completely ruins the immersion of a movie though, unless it's a nature documentary or something, your effects, costumes, makeup just do not hold up to that level of scrutiny.

962

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Dorkman wrote:
Teague wrote:

He talks about that in the commentary. They deliberately assembled the murdering-kid scene such that it would turn the audience on Willis a bit.

A bit? As soon as he murders an innocent child he becomes fundamentally irredeemable.

I can't even conceive of a way to execute that scene that keeps you on his side.

He goes into this on the slashfilmcast talk. They were originally playing around with a more ambiguous version where it cuts before Willis pulls the trigger and you don't hear a gunshot or anything. It was still heavily implied that he did it, but they found that audiences like Bruce enough that they were willing to let him off the hook for that in the more ambiguous cut, so they had to make it more visceral and explicit.

963

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

There's absolutely no rule against it, and killing kids isn't even remotely new. Carpenter did it in Assault on Precinct 13 over 30 years ago, and there's probably way older examples. It is true that especially nowadays you mostly see it in just trashy grindhouse movies like Planet Terror or Hobo With a Shotgun, but it's not really for MPAA reasons. It's just one of those things film-makers don't want to do unless there's a good reason for it, which makes sense to me.

964

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I think both things were explicitly left out because Johnson wanted us to be rooting against Bruce Willis for the 2nd half. If you gave more time for his motivation, it would help justify his actions and put the audience on "his" side. This is also part of the reason he put the "flashback" chronicling Older Joe's life towards the middle of the movie instead of at the very beginning where it would make more sense chronologically.

There actually was a potentially completely different but still cool version of this movie that could be made with Old Joe as the protagonist. We go through his whole life until he zaps back, and then follow him having to deal with his younger self as the "bad guy".

965

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

He also did a 2 hour talk with the slashfilmcast crew, which is always a fun listen since they go way back.
That discussion in particular highlights that all these choices were very thought out and deliberate, he flat out mentions the 2 magic-beans thing, though I wish they'd pushed him on how/why that was necessary for this story. Still disagree with the choices, though it's good to hear he made the movie he wanted to make.

To be fair, if you really want, you can assume they're the same universe just based on Alien and Blade Runner having the exact same "purge" graphic on take-off:http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/tyranus4/ALIEN%20Purge%20Screen.jpg
http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/tyranus4/BLADE%20RUNNER%20Purge%20Screen%202.jpg

967

(30 replies, posted in Episodes)

Ya Ewing wins the commentary. I really want to see someone try to make a poster of that title

I'll hand it to you, that does indeed look amazing, in a very disturbing way

969

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

I think they're on Halloween theme till the end of october, though I suppose they could do a bond or two in November before Skyfall hits in the US. Probably From Russia With Love or Goldfinger would make sense since they started most of the series tropes.

970

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I think it would have turned out basically the same for Brosnan if he had started with the Dalton flicks, and we might never have gotten golden-eye as a result. Their problem ultimately was the same thing that screwed up Quantum of Solace, namely, trying to ape what was considered "trendy" in action films at the time, instead of leading the way and doing their own thing. With License to Kill, it's extremely obvious they were trying to model themselves on Die Hard, which had just come out and revolutionized the action genre. The weirdly violent tone, the marginalization of spy elements, the blatant Die Hard/Lethal-Weapon wannabe score that sounds nothing like a Bond film (seriously ,listen to this thing:



).

We should probably be thankful Brosnan managed to dodge that bullet.

971

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Ya, if we go by actor I go:
From Russia With Love
OMSS
Spy Who Loved Me with For Your Eyes Only close behind
Living Daylights
Tomorrow Never Dies
Casino Royale

Regarding Quantum of Solace:
It's watchable, but hugely disappointing coming off of Casino Royale in my opinion. A really lame villain plot, really poorly shot action, resolving the threads from Casino Royale in a throwaway scene at the end instead of having that be the main plot. I think the biggest failure is the direction by Marc Forester. The Opera sequence typifies this because it should be an amazing Sam Peckinpah cross-cutting action scene, but its edited so badly you can't really follow what is happening. Not to keep plugging these guys, but they basically lay out all the reasons I dislike it in their review: http://www.hollywoodsaloon.com/podcast/THS-284.mp3

972

(64 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I'm a big fan of Tomorrow Never Dies, definitely like it more than Golden-Eye. Surprised it doesn't get more respect, it's by far the best Brosnan bond in my opinion.

However, if you want to talk most realistic bond films, by far the most grounded in the series, and my personal favorite, is From Russia With Love. It manages to be a super grounded straight-ahead spy thriller, while still setting up most of the tropes that we still associate with the series today. The gadgets bond gets are actually believable and practical (a suitcase with sniper rifle), the villain is great, the story is small-scale and intimate (stealing a Lecter encoding machine), but there's still some cool bond action as the story wraps up. I actually think Goldfinger is pretty over-rated. It's iconic as hell and helped cement the series tropes that From Russia With Love introduced, but there's also tons of wacky ridiculous shit, some pretty slow sections, and a pretty weak final act in my opinion. I think From Russia With Love and Thunderball are both much better.

Casino Royale is a close 2nd for me, for having the balls to re-invent the series while also having some of the best action film-making of the last decade (steady cameras, clean cuts across action, elaborate practical stunts, extended action sequences that have a chance to build momentum and escalate throughout). Hollywood Saloon have a pretty excellent extended breakdown of why it's amazing in the context of the series (http://www.hollywoodsaloon.com/podcastEP28-3.html)

Sidenote: A bunch of bond blu-rays are on sale today as part of the 50 year anniversary, worth picking up

973

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai is on Netflix streaming. You should really watch it if you haven't.

974

(51 replies, posted in Episodes)

District 9 is to be commended for doing what it does. I LOVE that it abandons the found footage and expands into a normal narrative for the 2nd half, that's what I wish Chronicle had done.

975

(91 replies, posted in Off Topic)

No, the time stuff makes no sense in this movie on multiple levels, which is a shame. It's not a deal-breaker for me because time-travel inherently fucks up your story and it's worth it for a lot of the cool scenes it enables here (Timecop and Back to the Future aren't really air-tight either, neither is Triangle, but they're all still fun to varying degrees), but it would be a better movie if it had a consistent set of time-travel rules that it played by.

This is why Terminator and Terminator 2 are awesome. Terminator 1 manages to be an awesome time-travel story based around a closed-loop where the future is set. Terminator 2 manages to be an awesome time-travel story based around branching time-lines where you can change the future. Having both in the same movie doesn't really work, unless you're Primer, which is about them thinking it's the former and discovering it's really more like the latter.