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thewalkindude00 wrote:

Chess is a show that i like the soundtrack but i haven't seen a good production of it.

I've seen three local productions. The most interesting not just added back some songs from the original into the Broadway version, but had two dancers doing "emotional interpretations" while the main cast sang. Once you got used to it, it worked quite well.

It was also interesting because the actor playing the Arbiter took the line ""Don't try to tempt me, you've no hope, I don't like women, and don't take dope" and made him a flaming queen. I don't think that's what Tim Rice had in mind smile

(I don't care for the recent concert version, mainly as the woman from Wicked is totally wrong for Florence)

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The best film series, as with the best book series, didn't start out as series. One good story was told, did well, and then was continued. The creator may have had future plots in mind, and put in plot hooks that could be later played with, but the original tale was complete in its own right. This is the best way to do it... especially in film, where there's a good chance you in fact won't do well enough to get your sequel.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

I'm starting to realize how many movies (That I don't think of as musicals)/musicals only have one song that the characters actually sing... it's weird...I'm trying to understand the logic behind it. You'd think you'd either go just go full musical or not have any songs at all. Seems kinda half assed. (Not to mention it sets up a really weird movie universe (No one sings...except well...this one point they do...but otherwise this is NOT a musical. One has to wonder if they are just literally singing the song in universe, and everyone else is just going... w...t...f...)

Part of it, in the 1930's, was just a desire for movies to entertain everyone the same way a variety show would. So, in the middle of a Marx Brothers film Chico would sit down and play the piano for a bit. This is also why even before Little Mermaid, people thought Disney made musicals. Most of their movies had one song. ONE. Some, like Dumbo and Snow White, had two, but most of the rest just had one tossed in. A leftover from that older tradition.
(you also saw the same thing with Japanese films, so there's suddenly a song in the middle of War of the Gargantuas, let alone the Mothra movies)

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

As for stage shows to movies... I think Book of Mormon could probably make the transition pretty well. I'd love to see a movie version of Chess too.

I saw Chess closing night on Broadway. That show so wanted to be a movie, down to the car hitting the Russian smile I love it to death, both the Broadway and Concept Album versions.

A major problem adapting shows from stage to film is when and if you "open them up". For example, I hate the movie Annie. Why? Because of the opening. Songs that are great with just five girls on stage lose everything when you have a hundred orphans running around.

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The basic idea is low Earth orbit is to be given to private companies, with NASA focusing on traveling farther out. The problem: NASA has no budget to actually do anything. So, they're designing these ships in the hope that once they have them, money for a mission can be begged for.

Assuming the ships aren't scrapped in the next round of budget cuts.

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Heck, you could argue that the villain is just a hero who lost.

Lamer wrote:
Squiggly_P wrote:

ban religion. Order every church, synagogue and temple torn down

But that's not a bad thing tongue

Speak for yourself. I'm an Atheist, but I'd drag out the guns to defend the local churches.

Dave wrote:
Invid wrote:

But any leader who wants to disarm the people is looking at Syria and going, "if the protesters had fewer guns that would be going a lot better."

Australia? England? Totally fucking Syria.

They were disarmed by one leader's order and not a democratic process? If so, I stand corrected. I'm all for banning guns, but such changes should be long drawn out affairs like the founders intended smile

BigDamnArtist wrote:

I wanna know what would happen. If right now. This very second. Obama signed into law, the banning of all firearms. Anyone not an active member of the police or military, in possession of any firearm would be subject to immediate and indefinite incarceration. Would it maybe, just maybe, be enough to push the country into it's inevitable revolution?

Well, first it would get Obama impeached, as you can't override the Constitution with a law.

However, if we ignore HOW this would happen, and use the old alternative history idea "What if Alien Space Bats just did it"... I have to admit, it would get me to take my Dad's old guns out of the cabinet and join the revolution. The whole point of the 2nd amendment is to arm the citizens against the government (with secondary goals of providing local militias who can be called on in emergencies). If the nation, as a whole, want to go through the long process of giving up that right... OK, fine. But any leader who wants to disarm the people is looking at Syria and going, "if the protesters had fewer guns that would be going a lot better."

Actually, what you seem to be asking is, was Jefferson right when he wrote "I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

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I had a thought today I don't think I've heard mentioned. Is part of the death of musicals due to the rise of using actual songs as background music? In the episode someone listed Tarzan as one of Disney's musicals. It's not. All the Phil Collins songs are just part of the soundtrack, with no characters actually singing. You get the same emotional effect, speaking the subtext, without having your characters dancing around the screen. From the studio's perspective, it's even better. Old MGM musicals were often created around existing songs to promote record or even sheet music sales. Now you can use any movie to do that!

Thus, we can blame either Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, which had the "Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" bit, or Lucas for American Graffiti.

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http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/2012-07-23-rise.png

I enjoyed some of the comments from the Shortpacked! web comic page smile

"Nolan’s Batman actually isn’t good at much."

"Everyone else in Nolan’s trilogy is better at being Batman than Batman is. The Joker always had an escape plan. Bane plans everything far in advance and is always a step ahead. Catwoman can get out of any trap. Random detective guy can figure out who all of the masked people are with some solid research and planning. Fox can develop new toys in his spare time without any immediate need for them. Even Gordon showed the ability to escape from a life-threatening situation.
Nolan’s Batman, on the other hand, failed at almost all of these. By DKR he’s just relying on beating people up because he’s better than them. He’s arrogant and overconfident and constantly screws up because he doesn’t have a plan B if punching someone doesn’t work.
I enjoyed the movies as character studies and interesting psychological thrillers, but in the end they weren’t really Batman movies."

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Look how close it is to the Earth! Gah! Where are the space arks?!?!

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bullet3 wrote:

It's funny you mention that, because I just watched Star Trek: The Motion Picture for the first time last week, expecting to hate it, and I actually really, really dug it. I can completely see where people wouldn't like it as it really doesn't have a lot of character work, but what it is, is a genuinely good honest to god hard-sci-fi flick.

You are now watching the "directors cut", otherwise known as the version that's just not boring 2001 type shots. I am amused at having something Roddenberry wrote called "hard-sci fi", though smile

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Actually, Toy Story was made because they could do plastic really well, and found a story they could tell.

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If you really want to make an impression, have Nolan sign a photo of his house taken that morning.

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OK, now that Pixar has fallen, and other animation studios are putting out good films... can we STOP referring to these movies by studio? Name the director. Name the head animator. Whatever. We don't assume all live action films from a studio have a certain quality, and we shouldn't in animation. Especially as the top creative people start to move around, freelance the same way live action directors do. Let's give the actual creators the credit.

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bullet3 wrote:

It's interesting to see how much of the plot-issues were addressed in the comics but left out of the movie, and in general I agree with the analysis that the reboot really betrays a lot of what I love about Star Trek, while still being a pretty entertaining movie on it's own terms. http://hollywoodsaloon.com/podcast/STAR_TREK_ZER0.mp3

Star Trek: The Motion Picture also betrayed a lot of what we loved about Star Trek, without the entertaining part smile

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Toy Story is one where, really, you could do endless new films if Pixar was willing to recast. Have an entire new bunch of toys in a new house with new problems. Nobody ever likes that, though, especially the money people.

(There was one book series, can't recall if it was Roger Zelazny's Amber books or something else, where each was to have a new main character until the publisher nixed the idea. The Friday the 13th and Halloween movies were to not have continuing monsters either)

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My memory of the DVD original ending had the end song just going on, and on, and on, over the unfinished shots, with Oz in the commentary saying that they never did tighten it. Could be wrong, though, as it has been awhile smile

bullet3 wrote:

That's a profoundly terrible idea. Found Footage movies usually work on the strength of having an unknown entity as the antagonist. We already know what all these dinosaurs look like, so there's literally no benefit to doing it found-footage (and any action/chase scenes will be garbage).

Found Footage works when there is SOME mystery. In one of the first, Cannibal Holocaust, three people are missing but the TV station they were working for finds their cameras. Thinking to make a TV special, they look at the footage... nope, that's not going on TV smile

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Interesting. I'm curious as to how they actually end the movie. The footage on the original DVD release, in addition to being in black and white, ended with a series of unfinished puppet shots of the plants attacking. There was no final edit of the last minute or so.

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Squiggly_P wrote:
Invid wrote:

I'm glad you guys didn't make much of the plot being a rehash of Doc Hollywood. After all, Bugs Life is a remake of Seven Samurai smile

holy shit...

I never made that connection before. You just blew my mind.

If you listen to the official commentary, they're very open about it smile Actually, it's a combination of Seven Samurai and Three Amigos (which, for you youngsters, has actors being mistaken for real heroes).

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I'm glad you guys didn't make much of the plot being a rehash of Doc Hollywood. After all, Bugs Life is a remake of Seven Samurai smile

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There are so few filmed performances that there's little you can generalize about them. Usually they're done at the end of a run, as you said, or are even one off versions. PBS has aired some. Personally, I dislike the ones that are "cinematic", as opposed to just pointing the camera at the stage, mostly because they often are filmed without an audience. I want the actors to feed off the applause.

The lack of original movie musicals may have a bit to do with the problem of doing movies in general. Nobody is going to green light an unknown project, and no creator is going to bring their original show to Hollywood when they have a much better chance of getting it first performed on the stage. Gone are the days when a studio will have in house composers to provide songs for films (and, lets face it, most movie musicals used existing hit songs as a way to sell records, and you can get that now by just playing the song over a scene). I'm sure the reason we don't get musicals in independent films is many of those are from writer/directors, and very few of those are also songwriters, or willing to bring in yet another creator to interfere with their vision.

The Yamato movies were always known for being half action, half 2001 ("Be Forever Yamato" has been said to, in fact, go on forever). As time went on, and other action anime came along, the mystical aspect was played up as a way to be different. It wasn't what viewers wanted, though smile

Your confusion at the start is probably partly due to the creators expecting the audience to all know the story, the way we know who Spock or R2 is. The original show started with narration telling of the situation on Earth, then switched to the battle. The movie wanted to jump right into the action. The thing with the antagonists is similar. The point is the audience KNOWS what the Gamilas are, and the movie instead goes with something different. I agree it doesn't work. I disagree about the OZ analogy, but maybe I have the advantage of knowing what they were trying to do. Without the trip, the goal couldn't be accomplished.