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Brian wrote:

It was embarrassing enough realizing how much Star Trek stuff I have. To literally have the Protector...yeesh.

I still debate buying one...

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Invid wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:
Invid wrote:

29. Did I mention the only black guy who got more than one line died and the black lady got serious acid burn?

Isn't the Sky Marshall black?

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That was a guy?

For those who don't know, the author of that list, Cronan Thompson, was a USENET poster who passed away in 1999 at age 19. In tribute, Robert Wolf named a character in the pilot of the TV series Andromeda after him, killing him off first because Cronan was always pointing out the black guy is the first to die.

No. More to my point was that there was a black person and something bad didn't happen to them (that we know of wink )

That's a great tribute. SFDebris has a fun schtick about black guys dying in a TNG review:

http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/t128.asp

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Marty J wrote:

I have to admit that, until now, I didn't know where the famous "Is it safe?" quote originally came from.

Um, Lord of the Rings? wink

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Invid wrote:

21. Black leather jackets are perfect for the field.

Yes, ask any SS officer.

Invid wrote:

29. Did I mention the only black guy who got more than one line died and the black lady got serious acid burn?

Isn't the Sky Marshall black?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090729005515/starshiptroopers/images/thumb/f/fe/Vlcsnap-105257.png/185px-Vlcsnap-105257.png

To defeat the Bug we must first understand the Bug.


Invid wrote:

46. Apparently being good in math equates into being able to fly a ship recklessly.

Um, yes. Always. All math majors are also space pilots.

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Yeah, this is so harsh to be borderline unbelievable if I had not already experienced the direct hatred of the Star Trek fan base on the official forums.

For my money (and my opinion probably is well known by now) is that Abrams Trek movies are good films and good Star Trek films. While I understand the idea of science is not treated with the same direct hard science of TOS or (somewhat) TNG, there is still elements of Star Trek in there.

Is it perfect? No, not at all. But, Star Trek Phase 2 and New Voyages could be considered "perfect"  by Star Trek purists but the perfection is in the sets, the graphics, the use of older scripts, not in the characters.

I recall reading a creation of Star Trek book (not sure which one) where it shows one of Rodenberry's ideas of Trek being action/adventure mixed with social commentary. Obviously, the definition of action and adventure have changed dramatically since the original airings and that change is obvious in TNG films, specifically. The evidence is there in Star Trek Nemesis, as well as many episodes of Voyager, where there is more mindless action than science.

Of course, Abrams comes at it from a different sentiment. That sentiment doesn't set well with many fans. For my part, and I'll sound hipster, elitist and whatever else you want to call me, I think that Abrams does a good job making a Star Trek film. I think there is social commentary as well as some fun action bits. That's right, I'll argue that Trek 09 and Into Darkness BOTH have social commentary, though it might be less obvious or not the kind of commentary people are looking for in THEIR Star Trek.

So, while I understand people's complaints about it not being Star Trek, I'll respectfully disagree.

Also, no way it is the worse film ever. Not even close.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

I'm talking about the movie, because that's what that list is talking about. And yes, I'm presuming that the capture of the brainbug is basically the end of the war (in the context of this list) because that's when the movie ends.

ANd I plan to, I just have a bunch of other stuff I'm still trying to read first.

Actually, not really. The war was still being fought, perpetuated by the military-industrial complex and media propaganda:

(I can do tongue in cheek too tongue)

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Invid wrote:

In the book, there's a conspiracy guy in boot camp who tells our hero that this is all BS, the guys who died in training didn't die, it's all an act, etc. We never find out that's NOT true, although the implication is that the guy was just an idiot. So, by bringing up the idea in the book, the reader is able to discount it. By NOT mentioning the idea in the movie, we have to consider the idea.

Um, which part of the book? Because that doesn't sound like my version. Sounds like "Space Cadet."

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Trey wrote:

This guy gets it.

Yep, this guy gets it.

Seriously, my wife and I would nearly kill (perhaps maim, but not kill) to have the experience of going to the movies again. We don't get that chance even though we want to. If we had the opportunity, apparently I should not care if someone is texting during the film.

Going to the movie to "watch a film" is so 1999...why?

I feel almost like a film snob. Apparently, not talking in the theater or texting is too much to ask.

I'm sad now and that is saying something since I was very sad before...

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BigDamnArtist wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:
BigDamnArtist wrote:

Isn't the entire end about how the "swell friends" have absolutely nothing to do with the end of the war??

Actually, Trey comments on this in the commentary that the actual finding of the Brain Bug takes place off screen. So, the protagonist's actions don't lead to the capture of the objective. However, in the book Rico saves the guy who captures the Brain Bug, his platoon sergeant, Zim. That's right, in the book version Clancy Brown gets MORE screen time smile

So tldr...the actions of the swell friends have no direct impact on the end of the war?

You asking about the book or the movie? Because I don't think in either the capture of the Brain Bug leads to the end of the war right away.

However, in the book, Rico does save Zim after Zim captures the Brain Bug.

You know what? Just go read the book. You'll like it smile

I've stated my feelings on this film before, but am glad for this take. I agree that the film feels lazy in terms of the over all execution (Khan, Kirk's "death" and such) but feel that it is still overall a good film and a fun Star Trek film.

The laziness comes from both the writers and Lindelof (him again!) not trusting their story enough to actually carry its own weight in the universe. Instead, based upon Lindelof's suggestion, the made him Khan. So, while I feel that John Harrison as a villain (and Admiral Marcus doubly so) works great, they did not. So, they took a well known villain and hoped for the best.

Also, despite the nods to Wrath of Khan, I never felt this film was an aping of that film. For me, who often views movies sideways, the performances carried the film and Khan is no exception.

But, I do agree that retreading of the material is lazy. But, I feel there is more to the movie than that.

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Marty J wrote:
Invid wrote:

4. An asteroid can cross the galaxy in about an hour.

I'm pretty sure it's intentional and not a plot hole. Paul Verhoeven meant to suggest that the asteroid hit was just an accident that was used by the Federation to start a war with the bugs (the equivalent of the Reichstag fire in Germany).

I'll have to rewatch the film, but the asteroids were one of the chief offensive weapons of the Bugs (in the book and I believe in the film).

Also, the war with the Bugs had already started before the destruction of Buneos Aries it just wasn't full fledged troops on the ground war. BA's destruction just keep Rico in the Mobile Infantry.

BigDamnArtist wrote:

43. The fate of all wars rests in the actions of a few swell friends.

Isn't the entire end about how the "swell friends" have absolutely nothing to do with the end of the war??

Actually, Trey comments on this in the commentary that the actual finding of the Brain Bug takes place off screen. So, the protagonist's actions don't lead to the capture of the objective. However, in the book Rico saves the guy who captures the Brain Bug, his platoon sergeant, Zim. That's right, in the book version Clancy Brown gets MORE screen time smile

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Allison wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

A query: what if movies reverted back to more of a stage play where (depending on the play) audience participation was encouraged?

I would say that it is currently acceptable for a minority of movies (Rocky Horror, the Room, horror 'don't go in there!' movies, etc.) in the same way that it's okay for a minority of plays, which would be about 3-5 mainstream shows. I think you're thinking more of audience reaction, not participation.

No, I think reaction is generally assumed for the audience, the "gotcha" moments of many films thrive on that. Also, as pointed out by Teague and Co. the Star Wars prequels seemed built for opening night moments that don't hold up beyond that.

I can't think of a good way to describe what I mean (too tired sad ) but my general gist is not just audience reaction but a deeper level than that.

However, again, as pointed out on the podcast, the devaluing of media is actually diminishing audience engagement, which is why I think more audience participation, on some level, should be encouraged.

Something like that hmm














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No, dude, go with it, This is pretty cool smile

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Also, I can yell at the screen when the fictional character does something dumb...honestly, it really is a good experience.

A query: what if movies reverted back to more of a stage play where (depending on the play) audience participation was encouraged?

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Darth Praxus wrote:

One fictional work that has most changed your life?

Well, one could argue the Bible, but I'll not quibble nor preach wink

Actually, "Starship Troopers" was probably the piece of fiction that influenced me the most. I credit my dad for giving me a love of science fiction, but my uncle fanned the flames with books like "Tunnel in the Sky" and "Space Cadet" by Robert Heinlein, and "Dune" by Frank Herbert. I spend many times at the library, looking for more books by Heinlein, Herbert and the like, taking in the stories with eagerness, often staying up until 1 to finish the book.

I don't remember how I got "Starship Troopers." I think I picked it up at a book store with birthday money or something like that.

Few books have informed my world view like this one. While I don't 100% agree with all the ideas that Heinlein wrote about, the ideas of responsibility, earning your right to vote and the virtue of service and corporal punishment.

As I got older, I read more on Heinlein, as well as the ideas he postulated. Again, my world view has matured, but the ideas presented of responsibility and service have stuck with me.

Also, I also want to write military fiction and have written smaller bits influenced by and inspired by "Starship Troopers." Again, this book inspired me to want to WRITE military science fiction and led to me discovering various other authors and books in the same genre.

I'll leave this prompt up since it is a great one smile

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Eddie wrote:

I'll take this one:

" What did you do wrong the day you felt the most physical pain you've ever experienced?"

Technically the story starts when I was 16.  Unlike most, I was looking forward to braces.  Dr. Anil had assured me that I would only need 10 months  in braces, and if I responded well, I could have them off before senior portraits were taken.  "There's only one problem, Eddie."  A grandmaster at getting a dental X-Ray illuminated with one hand, Dr. Anil pointed directly at the cluster of teeth that looked like someone hit "rotate," in photoshop.  "These four wisdom teeth have got to go."

"Do they need to go before I get my braces on?" I asked.  With a familiar sigh that comes from having answered this question to numerous kids and their parents, "No, but this isn't something you want to waste time dealing with."

Fast forward 17 years.

Wow, Eddie, just...wow

I hate laughing at your misfortune but I did laugh...a lot.

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MasterZap wrote:

Don't get me wrong guys. I'm not advocating doing ANY of the above in a MOVIE THEATRE. That's not what I am reacting to. I punch people who do myself (and as said, our local theatre frowns quite heavily on it).

The *issue* I am having is the surprise at this (in my perhaps biased Swedish eyes - we are in the top 3 internet using populations in the world) kinda "unconnected" attitude, that is almost held as some kind of hipster "I use my phones to make calls" attitude? I just find it odd... since we ALL met as "netizens", it .. .just kinda surprises me. People who use SMS texting with any frequency.. is just... odd... to me.

That is all... mkay?

Don't... everybody sleep with their network connected phone under their pillow to stream your Spotify "sleep gently" playlist, or the latest DownInFr^H^H^H^H^H^HWAYDM podcast!?!?

No?

Nobody!?

Okay I guess I am wierd then..... wink

/Z

Yeah, you're weird wink

Actually, and its funny, roughly a third of the customers I encounter in a given day either don't have a smart phone or don't have the internet. So, while I find it amusing that some people don't have computers I find it equally amusing that there is a need among people to be constantly connected.

Also, I literally only text or call on my phone smile

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Here you go. Just read #5:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20529_5- … ience.html

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Teague wrote:

Welcome to the table. At this here table, we share stories. The etiquette is simple: anybody who wants to share a story, can. At any given time there are three prompts, and if you want to tell a story, you have to tell a story based on one of the three prompts.

Once you've used a prompt, it's out, and you replace it with a new one of your choosing. (Or replace the one you took, I guess.) The prompt can be specific or general, just make sure it's something you feel relatively sure someone will actually have a story about.

That's the thing, here. Stories. Not anecdotes. Reader beware; long posts contained within.

Let's do this.

1. When you were the most surprised you have ever been in your life, what were you surprised about?

2. What did you do wrong the day you felt the most physical pain you've ever experienced?

3. What is the least sexy sexy thing that has ever happened to you?

I'll bite.

The most surprised thing was on my 25th birthday party. My wife had arranged for me to have a friend do a manicure for me, since my daughter would be born soon and I wanted my hands soft. My wife, being very pregnant, left due to the fumes, or so she said. She then proceeded to gather about 20 of my close friends and family, got a cake and decorated our duplex in the span of an hour. When she picked me up, we headed home and my brother nearly killed me with a heart attack as he led the surprise welcome.

I've never had a surprise party before (or since) and while I may have been a little older than most to say that, I still was incredibly surprised by the work my wife did.

(will find pics later)

(Also, wish I had a sexy story, as those are the most fun, but I can't think of any sad )

New prompt:
Worse work related incident you experienced

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MasterZap wrote:

I wasn't aware it was even possible to buy a non-smartphone in 2013...!?

/Z

Bought mine in 2010, so not sure about now.

Regardless, I don't have a data plan and have no need for it either.

I don't need a "pocket computer." I have a full size one, with a keyboard, and video card and speakers and such.

Also, it's great to have a "pocket computer" but what about all the people who do not? My parents do not, my grandfather does not, my aunt does not, and my wife does not. Not sure what the need is there if my family and I function perfectly fine without it  hmm

Also, I pretty much agree with Trey in the podcast. Movies are different but the experience of going to the theater, of just watching the movie, without worrying about anything else, is really the last appeal of a movie. Its a place where my wife and I can have two hours without the kids, without worrying about them and just destress. Last movie I saw was "Into Darkness" and was totally engaged in the movie experience, from 3D elements, to the sound and everything.

I didn't use my phone to "check in" or update any feed. I just watched a movie. Even after, I didn't do those things. I talked to my wife.

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bullet3 wrote:

As a point of fact, what I've seen at the local Cinemark is that they actually have a custom app that you can download for free and run on your phone. It makes sure that your phone won't ring or be in use, and if you leave it running for the duration of the movie, you get a coupon for a discount on popcorn/tickets/etc.
It's a pretty clever solution

Yeah, that actually is a really good idea.

I never understood the constant connection thing though I would like to have internet on my phone. But, my calls, texts and alarms, and really that's all I "need" it for.

There is nothing so important online (for me) that it can't wait the couple of hours for me to get home to my computer, where I can much quicker at responses, actually articulate my thoughts (not the awful auto correct speech) and I can use real words.

Sorry, I have a bit of a pet peeve with texting short hand and the like.

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As far as Elysium, is it similar to Lockout in its whole premise of man must break in to high tech facility?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592525/?ref_=sr_4

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Jimmy B wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:
Teague wrote:

*looks at figure*

JESUS how bad are your nails?!?!?

Zarban needs a specialist manicurist.

http://cl.jroo.me/z3/F/d/l/e/a.baa-The-best-manicurist.jpg

Hey, my daughter can do that too

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Sam wrote:
bullet3 wrote:

Batman will come to Metropolis, he'll fight Superman for the 1st hour, during which neither will suffer any permanent damage or setbacks...because comic book franchise. Then they'll settle their differences and team up to stop Lex Luthor, and end with a post-credits tease for the Justice League movie.

As long as the reason for fighting is reasonable I don't mind that vague sequence of events. If it goes something like this then we may have a relatively decent movie on our hands:

Wayne turns up to Metropolis as a part of a 'rejuvenate and repair the city' pretence. Perhaps joins forces with the only other billionaire who resides there (Luthor). They get along smashingly, but Luthor has other ideas for Metropolis/Superman.
Wayne finds out Superman's identity and goes to talk to him and says 'This is not how we do things here. A lot of people died. Maybe you should leave. Zod could be just the beginning of more carnage'
Superman contemplates it but realises Luthor's plan at some point. Decides to stay and stop it.
Batman doesn't see the problem and there's confrontation etc.
Luthor takes down Supes with Kryponite (from space or some shit) , Batman has an 'uh oh spaghettios' moment and breaks him free/saves him/whatever.
They both save the day as a team.

After credits and finale set-up: Justice league and Batman pocketing some of that Kryptonite as a contingency plan.

Actually, to make it really work, SHIELD shows up to pocket the kryptonite wink

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Tokyo Drift was decent, but not really as a Fast and Furious story as much as a classic "coming of age with fast cars" story. It is not any better or any worse than the rest of the series, but as a part of the series, it really is superfluous.

Also, the Rock is one of my favorite people.
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