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Saw this last night, finally.  (I had to, for research.)  And oh, the flames.   Flames in my head.   I cannot wait for this thing to come out on video so we can DIF it into a puddle.   

It's a textbook case of how to do things wrong - genre, plotting, character development... oh the list goes on.    And just when I thought it couldn't get worse... a second Magic Bean?   Really, movie? 

I agree that the cast was the best feature - Daniel Craig makes a surprisingly convincing cowboy, it was fun to see Harrison play a bad(ish) guy, and I'm always happy to see Clancy Brown in anything.    Oddly enough, Sam Rockwell didn't make much of an impression, any number of actors could have played that role.   

But Olivia Wilde's character - and now I finally know who Olivia Wilde is - shouldn't have been in the movie at all.   From a filmmaking perspective, everything that character said and did, even her very existence, was the wrong choice.    I would have cut that character out entirely, but I suspect the opposite is true - I bet that character was a late addition to the script, when somebody decided the movie needed a deus-ex-machina Explaino-bot. 

Other than some nice trailer-moment action scenes - at least they were able to get THAT right - an unimaginative waste of a potentially fun premise.    Prime DiF material, fer sure.

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Teague wrote:

I'm an oddball, I guess, but I've never enjoyed bad-bad movies. Like, as something to get a kick out of.

You're not alone there.   For example, I have only watched one Asylum movie in its entirety, ever.   And that was just once, when we DIF'd it.

/yes, it was the one I directed
/not kidding

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Evidence that the "Magic Bean" genre is still going strong...

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redxavier wrote:

I find it curious that a criticism of the movie is the long build up to the titular temple. This has been hailed as a good dramatic device in movies such as the first Alien movies, Predator reveal etc. Does it not work here because this is an action adventure?

My answer is - because the entire trip (including the dinner party scene once they arrive) contributes nothing to the plot, and no vital character info either.     It's all shoe leather, the equivalent of watching characters drive all the way somewhere and look around for a parking space before arriving at a scene that actually matters.     Willie remains annoying, Short Round and Indy continue to bicker, there's a lot of unfunny business with animals and guys in turbans... all just filler, and not particularly entertaining filler.   

A little bit of the trip would have been fine, there's nothing wrong with taking a moment to ride elephants through some nice scenery in an Indy movie - exotic locales are part of the appeal.   But it just goes on too long, for no purpose.   Look, vampire bats!   Which will play no part in the story!    Willie is frightened by them!   Which isn't the least bit new or surprising!

At the dinner we do get a meager few lines of back story about the Thuggees, but even that isn't really necessary - Indy could have covered that info from elephant-back on the trip in, he's usually the knower of all things historical anyway.

So the story doesn't get going again until Indy and Willie flirt (an advancement of character) and Indy gets attacked in his room (a hint, finally, that there's an antagonist in the story... somewhere) which leads - finally - to entering the actual Temple of Doom.    From there until the end, the movie works much better, but it was a long time comin'.

Finally, there's no ticking clock - there's no urgency to the trip because there's no particular time they have to arrive.  And other than "get the Happy Stone back and find the kids if you can" it's not clear what they're going to DO when they get there, or even what the threat is.   It's called The Temple of Doom so it'll probably be unpleasant, but that's all we know.   

Compare that to Raiders, where it's spelled out early on that the Ark of the Covenant is the equivalent of a Holy A-bomb that the Nazis are about to get their hands on.  So right from the beginning the race is on, and the stakes are established.     Even though Indy goes to Egypt via freakin' Tibet, the urgency is still there because we know that he's gotta get the medallion from Marion fast so he can get on down the road.

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Long post-production, production was in 2009.     It's George's pet project (tho he's not the director per se), and so he's been doodling with it for as long as he felt like.     That's one of the perks of being a scrappy little indie studio like Lucasfilm...

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Yeah, pretty much agree with all the above.  Which is why they'd make potentially good DIF's, there's stuff to talk about.

But when I say Zodiac was forgettable, I mean it quite literally.  I saw Zodiac, it was well-made and kept my interest throughout.  But there's not a single thing about it that I can remember now, other than the basic facts of the Zodiac case that I knew anyway.

In fairness to Mr. Fincher, in my previous post I forgot he also directed Panic Room, which I would put in my "hit" category.

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Fincher's got plenty of craft, but I don't love every movie he's made.  Same goes for Spielberg and Scorcese and Zemeckis and Cameron and Wright and Darabont and...   

But I will admit Fincher's been more miss than hit with me.   I liked Social Network, Seven, and (in retrospect if not at the time) Alien 3.    The rest, not so much.  *

To be honest, the uncritical Fincher Love that younguns seem to have is a head-scratcher to me - it's definitely a generational thing.  Fincher the man is the same age as me, but for whatever reason his work seems most beloved by twenty-somethings.   There's a doctoral thesis waiting to be written on this someday.

*yes, my miss list includes Fight Club.    *gasp*

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Squiggly_P wrote:

I vote Zodiac / Collateral for a neo-noir discussion.

EDIT - replace Zodiac with LA Confidential.

I'd go for that.   I thought Zodiac was well-made but completely forgettable, so I wouldn't have much to say.   But LA Confidential and Collateral, while neither is without flaws, are well worth discussion.

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Trey wrote:

Looks like Brian and I will be doing a one-day speedthru on Friday.  But I admit I'm mostly in it for the change of scenery, and hopefully a meal at one of those nice restaurants across the street.

And to look at cosplay girls, of course, duh.

Done, done and done.   

/Winning
/Tiger blood

Solely because of this thread, I rented Source Code last night.  Thought it was great.     The ending made perfect sense to me, and should have to anyone who understood Back to the Future II, since it's the same premise.   

Not a transcendant OMG best movie EVAR, but entertaining and well made in all respects.  And as Teague said, love it or hate it, there should be more movies like that.

Spoiler - The one issue that I would quibble about is the "erasure" of the poor fella whose body gets inhabited.   The movie sorta ignores this, and not surprisingly.     But the inhabit-ee was dead when the story began, and in no scenario could he have survived without everyone else dying too.  Unfortunate, yes, but that's just the way the equation played out.  So the incident did have one casualty after all. 

Yes, I would have preferred the movie give some acknowledgement of that unavoidable fact, but I can understand why they chose to just downplay it.

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Dorkman wrote:

Yeah, see that one, that's a slur.

"Muggle" is the clinical term, it just sounds sorta negative.  Mudblood is the M-word.

I don't recall a derogatory alternative to "Squib" (the non-magical offspring of magical parents), but is there one?    You'd think that'd be the one with the nastiest name - being the non-magical child of a wizard family would be worse than just being a Muggle.   Or is Squib the slur?

/too lazy to google
/cause i'm a netsquib

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Add a matching Un-like feature and I'm sold.

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Looks like Brian and I will be doing a one-day speedthru on Friday.  But I admit I'm mostly in it for the change of scenery, and hopefully a meal at one of those nice restaurants across the street.

And to look at cosplay girls, of course, duh.

The answer is always Surrogates.

The Dorkman in black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed...

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Correct!  Proceed.

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Inspector Gadget

Acquiring the Nautilus Commander

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I stay with my original answer:  the Fairchild C-82A.  If you crash, you just make another plane out of it!

PunBB bbcode test

Note:  the C-119 is a less-preferred but acceptable substitute.

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*jingles car keys in front of dkcecil *

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Seconded.  Dorkman wins the page.

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The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill But Came Down A Mountain

Female Transsexuals: Holding A Defensive Position Against Overwhelming Opposing Forces

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Last Year At Marienbad

The Raptor That Taunts An Indoor Shopping Arcade

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Seed of Chucky

Official Flower of the District of Columbia

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This is a wild guess, but maybe it was Videodrome?  Haven't seen it myself in decades, so I don't remember the specific image you're describing, but - it's an '80's Cronenberg with lots of techno-fleshy images and other similarities to existenz, so maybe that's why you thought it was the latter?

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I believe Phi's movie is The Last Airbender...?    And Zarban's is Raise the Titanic.

Which I guess makes it my turn, so

Plants of the Family Ericaceae