2,001

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Okay, I saw Thor on Saturday. I liked it pretty well; somewhere between Iron Man and Iron Man 2. The motivations of the characters were kind of thin, but fairly clear. Portman wants her science-y stuff back and is hot for Thor's muscley body, and Thor wants to get back into Asgard and deserve it. I thought the grab-the-hammer moment was particularly well done; it told me a lot about his emotional state without explaining it in words.

However, I had little to no idea who Thor's Asgardian friends were. I recall him saying the female warrior "Sif" but beyond that, I was as clueless as the SHIELD agents. I was also immediately tired of seeing the Asgardians get their asses handed to them, first by frost giants, then by Odin's magic furnace robot Destroyer thing. Seriously, how was that thing supposed to make any sense?

Loki's plan seemed pretty muddy, especially after he seemed to get what he wanted. But most of all, I just didn't go for the whole passing-of-the-crown-from-Odin-to-Thor idea that the movie was built on. Odin was king for 2000 years; is that just how long Asgardians live? I want my gods timeless and endless until Ragnarok.

2,002

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

johnpavlich wrote:

Zarban, in the chat, didn't you say we should record our own Zombieland commentary for Sofa Dogs? I haven't received an email from you on the subject. Please get back to me when you're able so we can schedule a date and time.

Also, my birthday is coming up (the 23rd, I'll be 32) and DIF will be on hiatus. I am sadness incarnate. sad

Replied by e-mail.

2,003

(34 replies, posted in Episodes)

Teague wrote:

Have a treatment on my desk by tomorrow. We'll make an audio drama out of it.

Ya'll are gonna need to find microphones.

Ooh, I'd like to, but I've just embarked on my latest opus, Sharkitect: Builder by Day, Destroyer by Night.

On the Pitch Black thing... I got this weird Tremors vibe from it. Not that it's a comedy or anything, just... I don't know, the general structure.

Am I alone here?

2,004

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Eddie wrote:

Ive seen it, and its kinda awesome in that it's Batman's entire rogues gallery fighting him at once.  Plus it was the Eartha Kitt Catwoman, I believe, which was my favorite.

Naw, Batman '66 had the fabulous Lee Meriwether, resplendant in an orange Velma dress as her alter ego, Kitka.

I have it in HD on my DVR. There are 4 fan commentaries for it, that I know of.

I loved that show as a kid, but my stupid, dumb, jerk sister always wanted to watch I Love Lucy and tried to convince me to switch off alternate days. That's no compromise! Every episode is a two-parter! How would I ever see them escape?!

2,005

(34 replies, posted in Episodes)

I believe that is the fabled blue lotus, prized symbol of the equally fabled Shadow Duel ninja cult, sworn enemies of the Down in Front investigators, worn by their greatest assassin, SHADOW DUELIST

Of course, there's also...

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MAUL II, the evil young clone of deceased master crime lord and former head of the secret society PROFESSOR MAUL, always scheming to take his rightful place at the head of the secret society in place of DOCTOR SUBMARINE

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INVID, an evil robot from the future that can transform into a warplane, brought to earth by Professor Maul

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ZARBAN, a mysterious 200-year-old sage who advises the Down in Front gang to forget their foolish investigation, as it is far too dangerous and risks their very souls and sanity

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LAND PORPUS, an evil, masked half-human, half-porpoise hybrid created by Professor Maul who can choose to walk around on land on human legs with a porpoise head or swim in the water with a human head and a porpoise tail

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FCW, an unknown insane asylum escapee desperate to join the secret society... if he's not TOO crazy for them

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KYLE MONROE, commander of the Pentagon's secret astro-marine brigade, sworn to fight evil robots, freakish hybrids, evil clones, and pretty much anything else that endangers earth

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MAD BAD COYOTE, a werecoyote whose ultimate goal is to use the evil computer created by Doctor Submarine to find the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything and use it to RESURRECT PROFESSOR MAUL

2,006

(34 replies, posted in Episodes)

Dang. Now I have to change your character in Down in Front: The Movie, which I'm basing on this forum's avatars.

Teague and the gang are adventurous investigators who uncover a secret society with the help of their superintelligent orangutan Matt and the disembodied brain of the emminent scientist Professor Holden Hill.

"Shifty Bench" was the paranormal investigator who specializes in furniture-moving poltergeists and who turns out to be a member of the secret society. Who is the leader of the secret society? I'll give you a hint: it's a Harvard-educated stegasaurus with his or her own submarine.

2,007

(9 replies, posted in Off Topic)

vidina wrote:

This is the reason I'm beginning to hate myself for ever becoming interested in visual effects, filmmaking, DiF and so on. Films I enjoy are butchered down to the point that even I start disliking them. And I used to enjoy watching the matrix sequels, dammit. Gah!

Take two 1970s Italian thrillers and call me in the morning. You'll feel much better about CGI Hollywood.

/the usual "erection lasting more than 4 hours" disclaimer

2,008

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Isn't it already The Lion King? Doesn't Thor sing "I Just Can't Wait to Be King"? And if you combine the names "Scar" and "Asgard", you get "Skarsgard". That shit ain't a coincidence, man....

2,009

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I don't understand why there would be ANY story in Asgard. The purpose for Thor to get thrown out of Asgard is to get him to earth, where he can have adventures. Then Loki comes to earth to harass and harange him. The whole idea of kingly succession among the gods is weird. Odin is king of the gods and will be (in a coma) until the end of time (Ragnarok). He's not going to get old and die, so sucession should be moot.

Anyway, succession among gods of pantheistic religions is usually bloody and often involves castration and cannibalism. (I'm thinking of Kronos and those other prehistoric Greek gods that became titans.)

2,010

(41 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Uh, hi, I'm Stinky McGoo from Kalamazoo. I like peanuts and films about peanuts. I am 14 years clean and sober from Dungeons & Dragons.

Question: does "Teague" rhyme with "segue" or "queue"?

2,011

(44 replies, posted in Episodes)

Wow. I've always felt Kubrick often didn't have a very good handle on story (the beginning of The Shining is hilariously ham-fisted), but this guy is completely off the rails. Does he go to art galleries and shout at paintings? "Landscape! Landscape! Landscape! Tell me a story!! This. Is. Nothing!!"

EDIT: Weird. Got punbot questions ("Which Star Wars movie is best?" which I apparently failed twice, then "What is the name of our planet?"), then the end of my post got chopped off. Was the repetition throwing up a red flag?

2,012

(9 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Nice analysis. Well balanced. It's basically everything I felt about the film: not terrible but kind of dull and convoluted with too much retreading and too many half-efforts at something new.

The only things I'll take minor issue with are:
- Vanko's revenge motive, which seems pretty reasonable to me. I like Vanko in general, actually. He had a sense of humor.
- Black Widow's action scene. Once she finally had something to do in the movie, it was pretty badass.

2,013

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Not sure how this sore point has come up, but I was with Brian on Star Trek, even tho I actually enjoyed the movie as stupid fun.

Zombieland was a good, fun movie that was a fair bit deeper than any other zombie movie I can think of. It certainly had flaws (many of the obstacles they encounter wouldn't be obstacles in a zombie apocalypse, and the climax requires the girls to act stupidly), but the panel harped on the flaws unnecessarily, pointed out flaws that don't exist, and never gave much credit to what works.

  • The zombies-aren't-zombies complaint is pointless nitpicking, plus it's probably wrong. As far as we can tell from the Amber Heard incident, people get bitten, die, and rise as zombies. Regardless, they shamble around and try to eat you: they are zombies.

  • The extended discussion of product placement was not helpful to your case.

  • Emma Stone is terrific. The repeated complaints about her (and other popular actors who aren't even in the movie) were annoying. There are ways of expressing your distaste for something without acting like people who don't share that distaste are stupid.

  • The characters' true motivations are different from their professed motivations, which are all foolish—and the other characters all know it. If you didn't see that, you were giving the film a shallow reading.

  • The interlude with Bill Murray was too long, but that's the only time in the film when the characters are safe and can interact as normal human beings. It's a crucial turning point for their characters.

  • Trey's complaint that the huge clown zombie at the end is no different from any other is a good example of the panel not making an effort to connect with the film. Columbus is afraid of zombies and clowns. Here is a great big clown zombie just when he needs to be brave. Not elegant, but give them credit for trying.

  • The stakes in the film are emotional and not physical. The beginning of the film establishes that our main characters are survivors, so surviving won't be their challenge. Their problems are internal. The panel seemed unwilling to connect with that.

Overall, if anyone on the panel liked the movie, it didn't show. It felt like the panel was being unfair and not giving it any credit.

2,014

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Thanks for Zombieland. It was another nitpicking hen party, but the chat was fun!

2,015

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

All I want for Mother's Day is for all the panelists to have a good time, whether or not they like the film, and thereby be entertaining.

That and flowers. Would it kill you to send flowers?

2,016

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

maul2 wrote:

EDIT EDIT EDIT:As far as the accents, would you rather they spoke in old norse?

I want them to sound like Victor Borge.

Who am I kidding? I want EVERYONE to sound like Victor Borge.

2,017

(30 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I've only just now had a look at the trailers for Thor. Coupla things...

  • Norse gods speak with English accents of varying quality, for some reason.

  • Odin casts Thor out of Asgard because he has "opened these peaceful realms ... to the horror and devastation of war" Isn't war exactly what pagan Norse society was ALL ABOUT?!

  • There is, in the trailer mind you, a scene in which Kat Dennings is amazed at how much Thor can eat. IN THE TRAILER.

2,018

(18 replies, posted in Creations)

Nice. Bodies of water never quite work in 3D without duel lenses because they shift so much from moment to moment. But buying and using duel lens kits isn't very practical. *sigh*

2,019

(57 replies, posted in Episodes)

A bad story is a bad story, regardless of whether the audience overlooks it because of all the explosions and/or boobs.

But I was liking the movie for a while for a couple of reasons, I think. 1) I've only seen Michael Cera in Arrested Development, so I'm not tired of him. 2) I got that Scott was a jerk because that's the thing he's going to overcome by the end of the film while he's overcoming all the evil exes. "These guys are a lot like me in some ways. I need to change." They should literally be using some of the same lame lines and excuses he used earlier in the film.

The problem is that the film presents a huge analogy (overcoming a girl's memories of her exes is like fighting bad guys in a video game) that it then tries to subvert (the girl for me was right beside me all along [see My Chauffeur; The Sure Thing]). But Knives was annoying, and no video game ends with the player going, "You know, I guess I don't really want to save the princess after all." That's why the test audience didn't like the Scott-Knives ending and wanted the original conflict resolved using the original rules: fight the exes; get the girl. Result: Scott doesn't learn early enough not to be a douchebag, and Knives's arc is clumsily resolved. Worse, the whole Knives character becomes a distraction that makes her a secondary antagonist.

Cars made a similar mistake setting up and subverting an analogy. "A cool but self-absorbed guy is like a race car, speeding thru life and ignoring other people. He needs to slow down and learn that winning isn't everything." What? That's not what race cars are for! Race cars win races! Weirdly, that movie also had this whole other competing theme of "the talented rookie needs to learn to listen to the old veteran to get the tips he needs to succeed" which gets thrown away at the end when Lightning decides not to win.

Even professional writers get mixed up about these things. On more than one occasion, Stephen Colbert has said "copywritten" on national television when referring to copyrights.

English spelling is an appalling and embarrassing mess. Other languages are updated from time to time, but Americans and Britons are hell-bent on pickling English in formaldehyde.

2,021

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

Thanks for two fun commentaries on one-and-a-half good films!

Well, the obvious related one is the bum who, seeing something outlandish, takes a hard look at his liquor bottle and tosses it away.

Angry black police captains are few and far between these days.

Oh, and gypsy fortune tellers.

Also, I've watched a few movies from the early '70s lately, and it's hilarious to hear people talking about zodiac signs. There's a moment in The Mephisto Waltz where a 60-ish male florist suggest that a certain flower arrangement would be perfect for Jacqueline Bisset because of her sign.

2,023

(1,019 replies, posted in Episodes)

You're recording on Easter Sunday? Heathens. Family-less heathens.

I will be worshiping the Easter Bunny with my family like decent folk.

2,024

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Ewing wrote:

I disagree. I think the ending is brilliant. ... Vincent falls victim to the very concept he derides over the course of the movie.

Thematically lovely. Logically preposterous. Cruise's last hit happens to be a personal acquaintance of the man he happened to choose to drive him. That man wrestles a gun away from a cop, escapes that cop, catches up before the target is murdered, AND outguns the professional assassin.

2,025

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Too bad they didn't work on that ending every morning for weeks.