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redxavier wrote:

I repeat, this is not about taking stuff for free, it's about being given stuff for free by the creators, and those creators finding sustenance through means that don't rely on artifical scarcity or elusive rights created to protect profits.

I mean, I guess. But that's a waste of time when you can be paid as a creator. Why split your time between a day job and creating when you can consolidate? Which is what some people are trying to do. And artificial scarcity might apply to the digital file itself, but not to the effort that goes into making that file.

If John wanted to release Backyard Blockbusters for free, that'd be awesome and I'd buy him a drink when I see him. But it would be ridiculous for us to expect him, or anyone else who has invested time and money into a project, to give it away. He worked hard on BB and he should be rewarded by at *least* breaking even.

That's the world we actually live in so that's the one we should talk about.

Beyond that, this has been one of the most confused threads I have ever seen a group of smart people get lost in. Honestly, I don't know what any of us is arguing. I'm not even sure my reply is germane to anything. Purple monkey dishwasher.

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My favorite Bond song has got to be Goldfinger. It's not a track that works out of context, but when I hear that brass opening in iTunes, I see the movie, Bond, one-liners, cars, gadgets... all of it. It encapsulates the franchise for me.

View to a Kill is great. Live and Let Die. Then Goldeneye. And, I'm sure this will be controversial, Die Another Day (its not Bond-y at all, I just like listening to it). And, Kyle, don't hit me, but I love Another Way To Die. *cowers*

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Well done, Trey.

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Teague wrote:

Yep, I'm out.

http://sidoxia.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/buggy-whip.jpg

At an 18th century pace.

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This thread is exactly like my experience with Gangnam style. Apparently it happened, was a huge deal, I missed it, and I still don't get it.

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Zarban wrote:

Given that the victim feels he's suffered enough, I think it's pointless to act like Polanski deserves more than 35 years of punishment as an outcast and fugitive (albeit one with a mansion).

I don't want to argue too much on this point, cause I can see it either way. But I'm not shedding any tears for a guy who lives a plush life in France and still gets to make movies with relative impunity. France isn't a prison. I don't consider 35 years of that to be a punishment of any kind, really.

But that's me.

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I have t-shirts older than the child he intoxicated and sodomized. He's scum and won't get a penny of my money while he's alive. And get out of here with the, "he isn't the only one." I won't pay to watch Powder either. A scum is a scum is a scum.

And it's called statutory rape, Trey. Let's not pretend it was anything different.

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Also, sort of related to the topic of male directors/writers writing "strong female" characters: When Tina Fey accepted the Mark Twain award she was introduced as the "first female recipient" of the award. To which she responded, "I look forward to the day when women's accomplishments don't have to be numbered."

I look forward to the day when semi-real females in fiction written by men aren't adjectived.

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Dorkman wrote:

Sarah Connor had Kyle Reese to teach her how to fight and then the T-800 to teach her how to love

In fairness, /someone/ had to teach her how to make bombs and fight. She was just a civilian when we meet her. I'd say the Terminator franchise gets away pretty clean. But I agree on everything else.

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I ogled women in comics as a kid. For me, there is no dispute over the sexualization and objectification of women in comics. Or I was especially preverse somehow. But compared to Batman the animated series or the X-Men cartoon, you get an idea what an un-sexualized heroine looks like. They were characters who happened to be women. Not much to ogle.

I don't have much to add here other than I largely agree with Dorkman's points about the systemic problems in comics, the west, and most of the world in general.

Don't forget - African-American men were able to vote before woman of any race were in the US. And just as racism still exists institutionally, sexism is equally as prevalent throughout society. The major problem is how almost invisible it can be because of social norms.

Sam F wrote:

One thing I didn't care too much for (and I might be alone in this) was the look of it. I didn't hate it, but I did feel something was a little off. It seemed like most (not all) shots looked very clean and beautiful, with perfect lighting, contrast, and saturation. This is great for a lot of films, but for this type of historical film it took a little bit of the realism away. Sometimes it felt more like I was watching an act than real-life moments.

I'm dying to see this. Hopefully tomorrow. So I can't really comment on the film yet.

But based on the trailers, I totally agree, Sam. The lighting looks WAY too Kamiński trademarked for this material. Lots of hard edge lighting, lotta fog and haze, big shafts of light, and washed out skin tones (though, more cyan than I would have expected given the desaturated skin)... 

After writing that I pulled up the trailer and stopped through it frame by frame. And I can see how each still shot works in theory like you say (obviously Kamiński knows how to shoot). But there is also a sharpness to everything that seems new to me. Not just with this film, but with movies in general. So my next thought was "recorded with digital?" Nope. Probably a combo of faster lenses and film stock. Either way, it's like the film traded depth within the frame for electron microscope detail of DDL's pores.

Point is: All of this feels like 2012 film styling. Putting historical characters into stylized frames not congruent with their time makes it look like dress-up stage play. I'm sure it could work for the right script, but having read Team of Rivals I can safely assume this wasn't the right script.

But eh. In 50 years everything shot today will look antiquated and less stylized. Then it will feel like a period piece.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

Actually, a DiF wiki could be really useful. And you've got tons of people to help edit entries. The work wouldn't be all that different from Project Halp.

You would have a page for each episode, a list of participants, maybe a few bullet points about discussions had in the episode, and then a quotations section. Maybe somewhere down the line you could introduce episode transcripts, so that I could search and find in which episode a certain movie was mentioned, or a person was brought up.

I mean, it's a massive undertaking, considering the sheer volume of DiF content. But I think it would be really cool.

And the unpause point of each commentary. I've been wanting to create a widget that lets me sync any commentary to whatever part of a movie I'm in. But I'm too lazy to dig for all the unpause points. So I'd volunteer a mac-based widget when I'm finished.

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redxavier wrote:

New audiobook? I'm sold!

For anyone who hasn't listened to it and/or you're on the fence about picking up the book, I highly recommend the audiobook. Definitely one of the best (and great to listen to whilst playing Dead Island  wink )

Absolutely. I bought the audiobook mostly because I didn't think WWZ was going to be worth my time. First, wrong. Totally worth my time. Second, WWZ has one of the best readings I've ever heard.


Branco - I like those things too.

Dave wrote:

If we go back to network intrusion, this can be performed remotely and silently from a territory which does not uphold the law as it applies in the target country. Any fallout, if discovered in the first place, would be diplomatic. This is a very different scenario than physically accessing a location on foreign soil. We have lots of experience in building walls and employing guards, not as much defending from something we can't see.

There's a perception that cyber warfare is just about shutting down systems and blowing things up, where as it appears a far bigger concern is information gathering. There is history of this occurring at a corportate level, and I believe this has also been documented from within government departments.

When was the last time we were at war with a technologically advanced country?

You're 100% correct. I hate to reply with a link, but that's exactly what I'm going to do. It covers your points thoroughly (written by the guy who I did the Bond thing with).

http://tigger.uic.edu/~bvaler/Persisten … prints.pdf

I'll post a larger response later if anyone wants it, but my major points would these:

1) Most hackable systems, if attacked, would be hiccup nuisances - a power grid goes down for 10 hours. While that sucks, it's not changing the tides of any war. Any unprepared countries have learned from the Iranian incident.

2) Any system vulnerable to attack is, in all likelihood, vulnerable to a variety of different attacks, not just cyber based (internal sabotage, strike, etc). An undefended thing is an undefended thing.

3) We've yet to see anything that even resembles an actual threat. Just the threat of threat. Which is a key distinction.

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I like Colbert a lot more than Stewart (though I still love Jon). That tends to be an unpopular opinion.

My friend and I are currently working on a book about international relations in the James Bond movie-verse. My buddy also happens to be an expert on cyber "war." So it works out really well for us that the latest Bond film is all about cyber terror. We had a conversation and cranked out this quickie article. For some reason "cannot" turns into "canit." Don't ask me why. Probably hackers.

http://www.whiteoliphaunt.com/duckofmin … l-era.html

Cyberwar is everywhere. I am sure there is some selection bias in my perspective, but I canít read the news without finding another ‘cyberwar will be the new 9/11‘article. The narrative? Our digital futures are in a precarious balance and threatened by the great cyber powers itching to destroy our lives, finances, and prevent access to the Playstation network through cyber attacks.

Now James Bond is getting in on the fun with Skyfall. In the disastrous first act (at least for me, although the overall movie might be a top five Bond film ever), the villain turns out to be a skilled cyber warrior. He is capable of blowing up buildings with a simple virus and his entire criminal enterprise seems build on his cyber abilities.

Just like Moonraker, and whatever Octopussy was, Skyfall goes too far. There is no logic or reason to the capabilities of the Javier Barden villain Silva. Somehow the villain is able to escape from containment due to a cyber worm that defies all logic. We are all helpless to the threat of cyber warfare, even James Bond. Bond himself actually triggers the worm by putting together an innocuous series of letters in lines of code. All hell breaks loose, providing James Bond with his raison d’Ítre, eventually saving the day and ìBritish civilization.î

The debate on cyberwar needs to be returned to some level of rationality. Skyfall is a symptom of the wider failure of society to understand just what Cyberwar is and the threat it represents. I define Cyberwar as ìthe use of computational technologies in diplomatic or military affairs in the international system. The discourse seems to be that cyberwar will lead to a revolution in military affairs as the battlefield moves to cyber space. Along with a changing battlefield, the targets will change and civilians will be threatened by this new development. Supporters of this idea have already rushed to suggest that Skyfall is the most realistic Bond ever [http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bond-s-most-re … real-.html].

Unfortunately, fears of the capabilities of cyber warriors seem to reach a level of absolute certainty that the worst case scenarios will come true. Our future will be shaped by cyber attacks that will control our destinies. But first, let us take a step back. My coauthor and I have collected data that demonstrates that cyber attacks are relatively little used tactic. We reason that states restrain themselves from using the tactic because there is the fear of blowback, civilian collateral damage, and retaliation through replication of the attack. Many see Stuxnet as a harbinger for the future. I tend to think of it as an outlier, an outlier that was not very effective and unintentionally escaped from the bounds of Iranian military networks.

In reality, cyberwar is a tough tactic to utilize. Cyber attacks are not exactly the future of combat, diplomacy, and human relations. While computers shape our lives, it is by no means assured that cyber attacks will take place at a level that will impact our day to day lives, let alone the foundations of British intelligence headquarters. These worst case scenarios are not helpful, if anything they make us less secure by convincing actors that constant cyber warfare is the coming reality.

We must step back from this imagined cyber brink. If James Bond canít stop the cyberwar future, who can? Our perception of cyber conflict is indicative of a perspective that the world is perpetually insecure and dangerous. There are very few ‘bogeymen’ in this world and much of the fault for any particular cyber attack can be placed on the actors themselves rather than the nature of the tactic. If plans for the latest jet are stolen, might it not have been a good idea to allow them on the network in the first place? If Silva was able to blow up MI6 with a simple computer program, MI6 probably had too many security issues to sort out that had nothing to do with the nature of cyber attacks. In the end, we can be reasonably confident that there is a developing set of norms or regimes that will regulate the use of cyber tactics. I predict that it will continue to be a little used tactic. If I am wrong, we can trust in James Bond to save the day.

Zarban wrote:

Okay, having grown up in the 1970s, I was too old for whole Power Rangers thing. So my question is this: are you people serious?

*shifts through roommate's crap*

....

*shakes generic Swiffer broom*

GET OFF MY FUTON!

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Whoa.

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Owen Ward wrote:

http://io9.com/5950364/scrapped-concept … -commandos

I sort of half wish this movie got made.

A bad-ass heavily-armed United Nations task force versus the dinosaurs.

So. This, only the roles reversed:

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26700000/Terrible-Thunderlizards-whatever-happened-to-26761545-950-1233.jpg

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Yup. Ewing won. I have tear streaks from laughing.

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Zarban wrote:

And the book Casino Royale is really fantastic. The later novels were fine, but I never understood how the legend began until I read Casino Royale. Bond is physically and emotionally brutalized.

Royale is the best for sure. Didn't the legend really start in America once JFK told the press he was reading them while on vacation?

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C-Spin wrote:

That said, I really love Daniel Craig and think he's made the role his own in a way nobody since Connery has been able to. And even Connery was sleepwalking through the franchise after (or maybe even during) Goldfinger.

If I had to summarize Craig's interpretation of Bond it would be "Military Weapon Who Gets Pissed Off A Lot." And in that respect, he's carved an distinct angle for himself. He definitely executes the calculated & cold blooded attitude better than anyone else.

C-Spin wrote:

How do you feel about David Arnold being replaced by Thomas Newman for Skyfall?

Arnold did some nobel work. I love everything musically in TND, and he produced You Know My Name which was awesome. Newman will be interesting. It could end up being the best score of all the films. I mean. Look at his resume. Shawshank's score is amazing.

C-Spin wrote:

The Living Daylights, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Quantum of Solace are also big favorites of mine.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rdAv2t0oJxs/TqGiXhWTRfI/AAAAAAAAFpQ/2uzHBFBWkPw/s1600/Not_Sure_if_Serious_meme.jpeg

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bullet3 wrote:

I'm a big fan of Tomorrow Never Dies, definitely like it more than Golden-Eye. Surprised it doesn't get more respect, it's by far the best Brosnan bond in my opinion.

However, if you want to talk most realistic bond films, by far the most grounded in the series, and my personal favorite, is From Russia With Love. It manages to be a super grounded straight-ahead spy thriller, while still setting up most of the tropes that we still associate with the series today. The gadgets bond gets are actually believable and practical (a suitcase with sniper rifle), the villain is great, the story is small-scale and intimate (stealing a Lecter encoding machine), but there's still some cool bond action as the story wraps up. I actually think Goldfinger is pretty over-rated. It's iconic as hell and helped cement the series tropes that From Russia With Love introduced, but there's also tons of wacky ridiculous shit, some pretty slow sections, and a pretty weak final act in my opinion. I think From Russia With Love and Thunderball are both much better.

Casino Royale is a close 2nd for me, for having the balls to re-invent the series while also having some of the best action film-making of the last decade (steady cameras, clean cuts across action, elaborate practical stunts, extended action sequences that have a chance to build momentum and escalate throughout). Hollywood Saloon have a pretty excellent extended breakdown of why it's amazing in the context of the series (http://www.hollywoodsaloon.com/podcastEP28-3.html)

Sidenote: A bunch of bond blu-rays are on sale today as part of the 50 year anniversary, worth picking up

From Russia with Love is fantastic. But it's also the most humorless of the Bond films. Which can be good or bad depending on your taste. Dr. No and FRWL are both proto-Bonds to Goldfinger's complete Bond. Dr. No had the goofy gimmick villain with the ridiculous world domination scheme, and FRWL had the super henchman and gadgets and cold open. Goldfinger fused those two together, added humor, and now we have Bond as we understand him. But I won't argue with anyone who wants to say FRWL is a better film than Goldfinger.

And I don't know if I want to buy the entire collection again. I bought them all on VHS. Then on DVD. The DVDs have DTS sound, and that's good enough for now. Maybe I'll pick up a handful of favorites on BR.

On Casino Royale, my gripe is that they didn't go full reboot. I've read all the books and novellas, and the film stays very true to the book. But if they were going to gritty reboot the series, they should have gone all the way. Instead of the silly parkour non-sense and trying to convince me that a defibrillator is a cool gadget. I don't think those action-adventure flashes meshed well the serious tone taken from the book. Was still a great entry though. No other complaints.

Eddie: OHMSS is way, way underrated. Nice pick. I love Goldeneye more because of the game than the movie itself.

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I always flip-flop between Goldfinger and Tomorrow Never Dies.

TND probably wins because it doesn't have the poorly aging trappings of 60s film. The pacing in TND is great (I'd argue the best of all the films), the villain is fantastic (what you'd imagine Rupert Murdoch would like to be), the score, gadgets, and action are top notch. Also, the Bond girls are interesting in this one. Michelle Yeoh knocks it out of the park and, contrary to what happens in most Bond films, is treated as a fellow military solider rather than a piece of meat. Which makes for a fun dynamic with Pierce. The scenes of one-upmanship are some of my favorites in the entire series.

The humor is pitch-perfect. I've always felt bad for Pierce because I think he was the best Bond. But he was stuck with some really crappy scripts. TND is the exception and he shines here. Brosnan has the ability to do the fun charming stuff and yet he can drop the beat and be a stone cold killer.

He also just *looks* like Bond to me.

The plot, next to Casino Royale, is the least convoluted of all Bond films. It happens often in those movies that Plot A is simple, and if you edited out all the sub-plots, it would take 30 minutes to resolve start to finish. Also, in their franchise mandate to go to new locations in each film, there are usually some pretty flimsy and downright confusing justifications for ending up somewhere. TND doesn't suffer from that at all. And what everyone wants is clear, believable and the stakes make sense.

The score in the film is traditional Bond too. I really hate when composers get cutesy with the theme. As in Goldeneye, half of the Rodger Moore films, etc.. Your synthesized cover of the theme never ages well, people.

Lastly, it was the first Bond film I saw in theaters. So. Maybe that's why I love it the most.