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Thanks! I've recently been researching rock music, and I've drawn up a list of music documentaries and films from my reading; hopefully, one or two more of them will generate a proper review!

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I had the exact same reaction as thewalkindude00. I watched the whole series in high school, having borrowed the DVDs from a friend of mine. I enjoyed it, but I didn't get it. It was only this summer that I hied myself down to my local used media store and got VHS copies and watched them, and I was blown away. I expected to be more engaged, since I wouldn't be pulled out by nineties effects every five seconds, but it really showed me how crucial good editing is to a film.

And how crucial Han shooting first is. I shall now join in with the frothing of the mouth over this.

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Gimme Shelter is nominally a rockumentary about the Rolling Stones; the film opens with the band performing “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” at Madison Square Garden and credits them in the opening sequence, an immense help to someone like me, who is fond of them conceptually but easily gets the gentlemen themselves confused. But the Maysles Brothers and Charlotte Zwerin came from direct cinema, a school of documentary thought that records reality as it unfolds, instead of investigating, and the reality that they capture here is Altamont. Much has been made about Altamont as the end of the carefree optimism of the sixties, especially the youth culture of the sixties, because of the concert’s death count, which I always found a bit odd contrasted against Woodstock—people died there too, and both concerts shared an organizer, Michael Lang. But, then again, the death of Meredith Lang, stabbed to death by a Hell’s Angel after he drew a revolver, certainly puts things in a very different light then the accidental deaths of Woodstock.

The focus on Altamont is helped by the fact that the Stones themselves don’t have much of a voice here; they rarely speak. Jagger, whose young, mesmerizing, and earthy beauty is captured here, is briefly heard at a press conference, but he answers a boring question (“Are you satisfied?”) flippantly and not terribly well. Otherwise, they’re limited to brief banter on stage, quiet, quick remarks to each other, and silently watching themselves on-screen. For a film that introduces them as the greatest rock and roll band of all time, the focus is much more on the audience.

During the “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” performance at the beginning of the film, there’s a shot situated behind an audience member, whose head obscures the camera as they jump up and down. We’re introduced to the audience as a benign entity, as they calmly listen, moving in unison, losing themselves in the music. But they become an almost sinister force in the documentary early on, as those organizing the concerts discuss the sheer amount of young people moving towards the West Coast, and we soon see them. For the most part, they’re fresh-faced, cheerful, and a bit detached; one young woman points out to the camera that someone is giving birth, as she and her friend wander away towards the stage. But this is in the early morning. By the afternoon, a Hell’s Angel has knocked out Marty Balin of Jefferson Airplane. By the evening, a man dies while the Stones continue to play. The Hell’s Angels aren’t focused on, beyond defending the actions of Alan Passaro, the Hell’s Angel who stabbed Lang; no reason for their presence is given beyond keeping people in line. (And given the conflicting accounts of who hired whom to do what, I don’t think two people had the same reason.)

In hindsight, it’s easy to blame the Hell’s Angels for the violence of Altamont—BBC Two merely describes Lang as “a fan… stabbed to death in the heat of the moment”, glossing over the fact that Lang was brandishing a gun while high. I’m not denying the obvious; they’re a huge factor. But the audience and the Angels, in the footage presented here, feed off each other; the audience demands more and more access to the Stones and the Angels deny them that. When Jagger vanishes into his trailer, a burly Hell’s Angel stands guard as a young woman whines, “When will he come out?”. As the audience and the Angels get drunker and higher, they begin to turn on each other, and it’s here where the violence and the rioting is born. The Stones were afraid to stop playing because they thought it would make things worse, although they threaten to stop. Lang’s stabbing is captured on film here, for those who see it as the moment the sixties died, but I think it’s communicated best through the slow exodus of the audience away from Altamont, especially the first shot. After a freeze frame on Jagger’s face after he reacts to the stabbing footage, we see three people in silhouette, the sunrise behind them, picking their way home. It’s quiet—people have to walk back to their cars and they’re most likely hungover—but there’s something aimless and brave about it. They don’t know it’s over; nobody ever knows that in the moment. Eras of history are imposed by us long after the moment has passed. But it’s definitely new terrain. It's a world totally unlike the world of the Stones’ Madison Square Garden show, which ends with Jagger anointing the audience with rose petals, and they walk calmly and confidently across it, unknowing.

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Do you think the nature of theatrical casting—not only the fact that several actors will perform a role, but the fact that you often grow attached to one performer's take than another's—affects theater to film adaptations at all? Personally, I think it makes it easier to see other people in the role, but there's also fans of Wicked clamoring for Menzel and Chenoweth to reprise their roles in a film adaptation.

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redxavier, in Jackson's defense, he cites the breadth of the stories he's already telling in his statement about his decision to make it a trilogy:

We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance.  The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

Your mileage will vary considerably, of course.

Personally, I'm very interested by the fact that this decision is so last-minute, because it implies, to me, that Jackson and company were looking at the footage they had and thinking they had enough material to constitute three movies. I kind of like that idea, because it's been only recently that I've discovered what difference good editing can make in a film—contrast and compare the theatrical cut of Star Wars to the current DVD release, because that's what I did. 

But Jackson is in a unique position among the current trend of "let's split the film adaptation in half for no discernable reason!" because he has access to more story than he can possibly cram into a trilogy, even with just the appendices (whether or not he will use it, of course, remains to be seen). Ringer speculation before today's announcement was that a third film would be a "bridge" film, covering events between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and the production is pretty open about going beyond the story of the novel into the story of the universe. That sounds defensive, but I bring this up to differentiate this from the current slew of novel adaptations snapped in half: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Breaking Dawn, and Mockingjay. The big question here is not whether or not this is a huge marketing gimmick (which is a totally valid point; if you're a completionist Potter collection, you had to triple dip for that last film), but are audiences becoming more willing to watch longer and longer films?

Which dovetails with your question, Doctor Submarine. Yes, I definitely think the fact that the Extended Editions are so popular was an influence on Jackson, because he knows his audience will happily park their butts for well over two and a half hours and want more story. I've marathoned the extended trilogy before, which was both butt-numbing (fidgeting on a sofa for twelve hours) and dehydrating (we popped in the second disc of The Return of the King and just started weeping), and I was looking forward to marathoning it with The Hobbit before today's announcement. (I don't know if I can do six films in a day; surely, there must be some Star Wars brethen who have done this, it can't be terribly difficult.)

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So today Peter Jackson announced that The Hobbit will be a trilogy, as he teased at during Comic-Con. On the one hand, I've got some concern ranging from "well, I guess this rules out extended editions if he's using that footage for a third film" to "this is really late in the game". On the other hand, I love The Lord of the Rings film trilogy like few things else, so I'm just kind of stunned by the idea I get to spend another two to three hours in this cinematic universe.

I thought this might be a good jumping off point to discuss film series as a whole, since this is a fairly unique occurrence—the only other film I know that was intended to be one film and later released as two is Richard Lester's The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers. So let's talk series, people—especially how to do it right.

Personally, I have little experience with film series outside of Toy Story, The Lord of the Rings, and the Marvel cinematic universe, which are examples of different kinds of series. Toy Story is—well, was—an open-ended franchise that decided to become cohesive at some point and ended up actually engaging with end-game issues in order to create a compelling trilogy. (The rumors of a fourth film leave me cold.) The The Lord of the Rings films were always intended as three films, so I consider those close-ended. And the Marvel cinematic universe is open-ended. That can be a good thing and these films, I think, have done well so far, but television has hurt me, because that's a place where "open-ended" often means "plateau".

But overall, I tend to be hopeful about film series, because they tend to understand, especially if they're released fairly far apart from each other, that each film needs to be satisfying on its own. The Harry Potter films miss this towards the end, when they begin to assume that you've read the book or seen the other films. The ideal here, I think, is a film that's satisfying on its own but becomes more satisfying when viewed in context with its series. I also come from the world of books, where people think it's totally okay to eschew proper plot structure when writing the first book of a series, because they fail to grasp the concept that The Lord of the Rings was a single novel, not a trilogy. Film series look amazing compared to some of the stuff I've encountered in books.

Ultimately, I tend to prefer close-ended series, because there's nothing stopping the film from being all it can be—the toys don't have to go back in the box in more-or-less the same condition. I think this is why I liked Superman Returns; for all its flaws (of which Brandon Routh was not one; that man should get more work), I feel it's fairly rare among superhero films for dealing with end-game content such as a lover leaving you and moving on with her life. Of course, I haven't seen The Dark Knight Rises yet, but I hear good things about that in terms of serial storytelling. Feel free to discuss it below.

So? What do y'all make of film series?

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Perhaps this trend, from full-fledged musical to films with one musical moment to films with soundtracks (a la Toy Story—I forgot how many songs where in that film until I rewatched it recently!), can be encapsulated by The Emperor's New Groove and its troubled production from epic Disney musical (complete with high profile musician) to what it is today. I haven't watched The Sweatbox all the way through yet, but I can imagine that this trend may have, in a very small way, influenced the negative reaction to its first cut as The Kingdom of the Sun.

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Great episode. I think the point about the fact that the Pixar brass that made the Pixar films of my childhood has now spread out and can't devote the same resources and time to projects now is what sort of made me realize the most that they've definitely changed. Personally, as a huge Disney freak, I'm delighted that Lasseter is the chief creative officer for Walt Disney Animation Studios, because he gets it, man, but it is kind of sad that they're coming back down to earth after such an amazing run.

Another casualty of being raised by wolves was any concept of music before 2002, but I've recently read The Rolling Stone Illustrated History of Rock and Roll, which resulted in both a list of music and a list of rockumentaries, such as this one. I've not seen this one yet, but I'm fascinated by the fact that Jeff Stein was essentially an ascended fanboy and the lengths he went to, as you describe.

Also: blistering is one the best adjectives to describe good rock music.

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Do you have that thing where you watch A Knight's Tale, finish it, want to watch something else like it, and then realize you're just going to have it watch it again? I sometimes daydream about a world where it kicked off a trend of good, earnest, and willfully anachronistic movies with awesome soundtracks. Said daydream drove me to watch Virgin Territory, which, well, sucked. The show Merlin seems like its spiritual successor, but I have a hard time getting into television shows these days. It also lacks Bowie.

On the subject of musicals, does anyone have a stage musical they think would translate well to the big screen?

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I think using popular music as soundtrack is a bit of a different impulse than creating a musical; to pluck an example from the veritable flood of nineties films with such soundtracks, A Knight's Tale (incidentally one of my favorite movies) does use popular music, but rarely, if ever, does it use the music as a musical would, to make subtext explicit.

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For me, the reason I don't care for Cars is the bizarre, existential crisis-inducing worldbuilding. Otherwise, yeah, it's perfectly fine. Other Pixar films, especially the Toy Story series, have such small but expansive premises (what if toys were alive? They would feel abandoned when you got rid of them and worry about obsolesce) that to see this was disappointing. So I basically spent the entire movie feeling my brain solely collapse on itself as I tried not to let the underlying horror overcome the story. Where are the people?

A fantastic episode and commentary; I really loved hearing about reflections and shadows, especially in terms of Pixar engineering films around technical advances. I was also crying with laughter last night concerning the Carble, so hats off to you!

Oh, and here's an artist's rendering of the internal workings of the cars from Cars. Sweet dreams.

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Another factor in the decrease of movie musicals from the golden age of Singin' in the Rain is the fact that, when it comes to mainstream, live-action films aimed at adults, very few musicals are being written specifically for film nowadays, which compounds the problem Invid mentioned; studios willing to do a musical are forced to pull from stage musicals. I think Across the Universe is the only big movie musical in recent history that wasn't based on a stage musical.

In fact, Invid, that's interesting in the context of Rock of Ages, because it's extremely different than the stage musical to the tune of replacing characters and plots. Perhaps the production felt free to do so because the more different the film ended up being, the more word of mouth might be generated for the show?

Is there anything to say about filmed performances in this regard? They're not film, per se, as they're theater records (although I was surprised to see that the taped version of Danny Boyle's Frankenstein gets cinematic at times), but they still pose the same threat to the stage show. Hence RENT releasing one after closing and Legally Blonde only airing its taped performance once on MTV a few years back.

And I'd also just like to say that, as someone who constantly ponders the story potential of the music she listens to, that I love jukebox musicals.

(I realize a double review perhaps isn’t the point of this forum, but I think the value of a review of Get Him to the Greek lies only in comparing it to Forgetting Sarah Marshall, so, you know.)

The first I heard of Forgetting Sarah Marshall were those billboards back in 2008—you know, the ones that said “I hate Sarah Marshall” and just gave the URL for the movie’s website. I was not moved to see the film, because, quite honestly, I thought it was going to be cruel. Between 2008 and this summer, I’ve since learned to enjoy the talents of Jason Segel, and I’m also currently in the throes of a Russell Brand archive binge, so I picked up the film and its spin-off, Get Him to the Greek. (If you need a summary of either, well, to IMDb with you.)

Forgetting Sarah Marshall absolutely proved me wrong. What I walk away from Forgetting Sarah Marshall is how incredibly kind of a writer Jason Segel is. I feared that the titular ex-girlfriend  would be put through the wringer, as well as her new beau, but the film lacks an antagonist. It’s simply about four people (the couple and their new partners) dealing with the fallout of a particularly awkward break-up, albeit splashed across the gorgeous backdrop of Hawaii. For every scene of Peter sweetly but hilariously breaking down, there’s equal time shared between Sarah, Aldous (the new rock star beau), and Rachel (Peter’s love interest), to flesh them out as actual human beings, which ends up in a scene where Peter tells Aldous that it’s hard to hate him.

Thusly, most of the comedy derives not from the awkward situation, but the awkwardness of the characters in that situation, which is what most comedies should strive for. Ultimately, the film pits Peter and Sarah, two people who like to take care of their partners, against the much more independent Rachel and Aldous, and how the two twosomes do and don’t sort it out. Of course, there are broader strokes throughout the film—in particular, there’s one gag involving Russell Brand and Jack McBayer humping giant chess pieces that runs a bit thin—but for the most part, even the smaller roles, like Jonah Hill as a hotel worker who worships Aldous, are more or less human, if hilariously awkward. From an Apatow film, I wasn’t expecting a weird little romantic comedy whose crudity serves the story and the characters, let alone a film whose male protagonist is a hopeless romantic. I was quite pleased with it.

I was much less pleased with Get Him to the Greek, although I really should have expected that. The problem with Get Him to the Greek is not the premise (there are no stupid premises—well, I’m sure there must be, but some stupid premises make good movies), but rather the fact that the movie is very confused about what it wants it to be. Forgetting Sarah Marshall knew exactly what it wanted to be—delightfully crude, essentially good-hearted, and romantic. Get Him to the Greek, in contrast, hesitates between wanting to be a raunchy bit of a caper, which it achieves in a scene where an attempt to party Aldous and his father into submission concludes with Aldous and Aaron being chased out of a hotel by Aaron’s boss, and a dramedy about a rock star drug addict coming to terms with the fact that his life is in shambles, informed by Brand’s own personal life.

Either would be good material for a film, but the confusion makes this a slog—well, that and the leaden pacing, which I found supremely weird. I was expecting something with an absolute relentless pace, given the premise of having to get a rock star from point A to point B in a set period of time. The movie eventually abandons its efforts to be a raunchy caper in the last half hour for the dramedy—failed threesomes and suicide attempts, anyone?—but it’s a bit too late by then to save the entire thing. The actors do their best—I’m not fond of Jonah Hill, but he’s sympathetic here—and there are some good jokes here and there; a sequence set to a French cover of “Imagine Me and You” is hysterical, and Rose Byrne’s serenely crass rock siren (as Aldous’s ex-girlfriend) is good fun. Sean Combs attempts to pull a Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder as Aaron’s boss, which only really works in the second half of the movie, in the scene mentioned above.

Ultimately, what I think is happening here is a confusion of audience. While Forgetting Sarah Marshall is a bit more romantic and emotionally mature than most of I’ve seen of Apatow’s films, it’s still aiming at a specific audience with its light and sweetly crude fare. Get Him to the Greek, in attempting to create the sweet portion of itself, inadvertently pulled up a darker story and doesn’t quite know what to do with it until too late. I’m one of those people who like to watch DVD previews (and VHS previews) to see what audience the home video distributor thinks it’s looking at; Get Him to the Greek had everything from Death Race 2 to Despicable Me. …yeah. I actually think I’d be quite fond of the dramedy, had it been fully developed, but I’m just underwhelmed by what I got.

The best part about Green Lantern… oh man, I wish it was on YouTube so I could link you, but I'll just describe it.

Our villain Hector Hammond, as played by Peter Sarsgaard, is a man you cannot help but feel sorry for. His father hates him, Ryan Reynolds has stolen every girl he's ever fancied (or so I concluded, that might be false), he has a receding hairline, some truly unfortunate facial hair, and the one time he gets to do anything cool and performs an alien autopsy, he gets infected with space goo. In short, he is a man Life itself has crapped upon.

Anyway, the space goo gives him powers, as I'm sure we're all familiar with, and he begins to develop telepathy and telekinesis. In the film, his powers first manifest themselves while teaching at what appears to be either a high school or a community college, where all of his students hate him for being pathetic.

In this scene, he has his back to his class when a jock thinks something particularly mean—I forget—and he asks him to repeat it. The jock refuses until, frustrated, Hammond uses his telekinesis to throw him across the room.

Now, this can be done to be honestly terrifying. However, the execution the filmmakers chose to go with was "cartoon ejector seat". It feels like they had to digitally remove the spring and the sound effect, it is that silly.

And that's the only good part of Green Lantern.

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The theme is about family—notice that Merida's wish to change her fate is not to change her own position in life (and thus her destiny), but to change her mother. In that way, the film proposes that birth is destiny. It's also reinforced by the story of Mordu, because he rejected his family. The concept of a woven destiny, as echoed in the tapestries, is more apt here; you can't remove the threads that support you, argues Brave.

I saw it with my mother, and we were both bawling at the end (my tiny French mother told me she would save me from bears, given that she is also a bear at the time), so the mother-daughter relationship definitely rings very true. (To be fair, I bawled at The Hobbit trailer because it was the highest resolution I'd ever seen anything at, so my bawl bar is set pretty low.) I could see Chapman's hands in any scene that gave Elinor more depth, and I really appreciated that it was about both mother and daughter understanding each other, rather than the mother understanding her.

I didn't think it was a misstep; however, I agree it is not at Pixar's usual standard and that Monsters University does not look promising.

Saw Rock of Ages on Friday, and loved it. Of course, eighties + overproduced + musical + big names = litomnivore kryptonite, so I'm wildly biased. It was a lot of stupid fun.

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avatar wrote:

They assume it's some sort of sci-fi 'Mulholland Drive' that's supposed to be mysterious and leave questions unanswered. If only that was the worst of its sins. Haven't they seen LOST?
It must be a sign of insecurity to assume the movie is smarter than you, rather than they just didn't know what they were doing. The dazzling production values (like Inception) give the illusion that its very sophisticated, and  a sprinkling of references to 'deep topics' is sufficient to pass for profundity.

Laying aside Prometheus's various problems (which left me merely disappointed, instead of angry) and focusing on this, it's no bad thing for a film to ask questions it doesn't answer in order to make you think. It is a bad thing when the film doesn't answer any, especially the central question that motivates the plot—who made us and why?

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Dorkman wrote:

They could've cut Vickers and had David do the few plot-related things she did. How creepy would it have been to have David be the guy with the flamethrower, dispassionately murdering Holloway just because it's protocol? Make it clearer that they're all variables in some calculation, and when they're no longer useful to the equation, he'll have no qualms removing them from it.

That's brilliant. After all, David is the one that saves Holloway and Shaw when they get caught in the storm, so to see him torch Holloway in order to pursue the exact same goal of "protect the crew so they can continue the mission". But it would also show that David is willing to clean up after himself (although why he infected Holloway is, uh… missing), and give Shaw and David more conflict, because they're the main characters.

Yeesh.

I mean, ultimately, I'm reminded of Pixar's storytelling rules: combine characters. Vickers felt like one or two character ideas trying to pass as a whole character.

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BigDamnArtist, I'm kind of excited for it myself. I'm awfully fond of mid-life crisis movies, for whatever reason, and I do like John C. Reilly's voice-acting in the trailer. But I'm going to try and forget about it a little, so I don't develop any expectations.

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I saw it yesterday—it felt like Act One of a movie I actually want to see (the adventures of Shaw and David's head in search for the true origin of life, with lots of philosophical discussion on the idea of "who made us?"). You guys have already covered a lot of the logic problems, but for me, I could have taken some of those had we been more engaged with the characters. Prometheus thinks it's an ensemble film, but it's really not—it's Shaw's story, with David as a secondary character. But since we don't spend enough time with Shaw (I think we actually spend the most time with David; fair enough, considering Fassbender's fantastically creeptastic performance), we don't engage with her. I watched the last thirty minutes wishing I liked her character more.

Vickers, as a character, was utterly wasted, and I never really got David's motivation. (I could parse one out, but I just wanted a hint more logic.)

Still, very pretty. I loved the design of the Engineers.

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Fantastic! I've added the new additions (and removed Cars 2… hey, someone said "Pixar films"! It pays to be specific!)

And Eddie, be a stickler; I'll see if I can't find the proper ones.

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The Lost City of Z, David Grann. Engaging nonfiction about the author researching the life of Percy Fawcett, a Victorian explorer who ultimately vanished in the Amazon, and ended up looking for information about the guy's fate himself.

The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Holmes is a classic for a reason, and the short stories are a lot of fun and easy to swallow. (There aren't any particularly bad collections of short stories, but if you want a Holmes novel, only The Hound of the Baskervilles is really worth it.)

The Sundering, Jacqueline Carey. Carey is more known for her Kushiel novels, which are all about geopolitical intrigue, romance, and sadists. They're great, but The Sundering—composed of Banewreaker and Godslayer—is much more accessible. It's a deconstruction of The Lord of the Rings which works by taking a similar situation making it morally complex.

The Magicians, Lev Grossman. Along the lines of the above, although this is a particularly brutal deconstruction of Harry Potter and The Chronicles of Narnia. It's also a trilogy, with the third book still in production.

The Unwritten. Ongoing Vertigo comic that's being pretty thoroughly collected. It starts as a deconstruction of Harry Potter (guess what I like to read!) and has become a meditation of how we interact with stories and they interact with us. In three years of reading it, there's only been one issue that stumbled for me, and that was recently.

A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge. Brilliant classic sci-fi. To tell you anything more would be a disservice, but it flirts with the epic. There's a sequel, The Children of the Sky.

The Secret History, Donna Tartt. A novel about classics students committing a murder. The first half can be slow, but the second half is so amazing it barely matters.

Tigana, Guy Gavriel Kay. The novel that marks Kay leaving his Tolkien riffing behind and striking out on his own; it's about the efforts of a band of rebels to save their country, whose very name has been erased by the two dictators that vie for control of their continent.

Good Omens, Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett. A buddy comedy about the apocalypse. If you've not read it, you've probably heard of it.

Wicked, Gregory Maguire. While the other novels in the series don't match it, this is a very interesting character study, and I really like Maguire's Oz. (Which I say as if I even know about the original one.)

Zombie Spaceship Wasteland, Patton Oswalt. This is pretty evenly split between some brutal comedy that didn't work for me on the page and a darkly brilliant memoir. It's worth it for the memoir portions.

The Magician's Book, Laura Miller. Nonfiction about how stories influence us and the power of story by way of examining the author's relationship with The Chronicles of Narnia, as well as examining the life of C. S. Lewis.

Manhood for Amateurs, Michael Chabon. Pretty much everything he writes is worth it, but this is a nice collection of essays ranging from dealing with his children to a love letter to Big Barda.

That's just a random sprinkling. If you (or anyone else!) is interested in exploring on your own, librarian Nancy Pearl has two books—Book Lust and More Book Lust—that offer a lot of recommendations grouped by theme or topic. It's how my own towering reading list (now 500+!) got started.

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Zarban wrote:
litomnivore wrote:

I'm not dead! I'm just busy making a spreadsheet of all these recommendations and actually watching some of these!... Okay, well, Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead is absolutely amazing, but I don't know how essential it is to understanding film.

Okay. Okay. *deep breath* I've got some bad news.

Films that are essential viewing for understanding film are not... necessarily... particularly... entertaining.

there's having a solid foundation in the vernacular of film and then there's delving into the dark corners of the subconscious of cinema. I mean, audiences love and reference Steven Spielberg's Raiders of the Lost Ark. But Spielberg and his pals himself love and reference Lawrence of Arabia and Triumph of the Will.

We've been suggesting phrasebook movies, but if you want the linguistics course....

Personally, I want both the phrasebooks and the linguistics courses! As Eddie says, this thread is about essential films, which I think can include both quite handily.

As the thread seems to be winding down, I give you a handy dandy spreadsheet of the recs in this thread (albeit without any television programs recommended; miniseries are included, though). It's just under three hundred movies long. Nicely done, folks!

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I'm not dead! I'm just busy making a spreadsheet of all these recommendations and actually watching some of these! Thank you guys so much, this is brilliant. I've seen a few of these recommendations, but for the most part, it's all new and exciting. I just haven't had anything particularly interesting to say other than "Casablanca was great" and "The French Connection is so incredibly creepy". And I don't have any recommendations to give because I'm seeking them in the first place!

Okay, well, Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead is absolutely amazing, but I don't know how essential it is to understanding film.