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fireproof78 wrote:But, I will not hold against the Hobbit that it doesn't feel like LOTR. For me, those are two separate entities in terms of tone and style, at least based upon source material.
I think a comparison is warranted, if for no other reason than the success of the adaptation of LOTR. Though, I guess the real lesson is that condensing rather than expanding is what makes for a better film.
I had the strange impression during the opening Lake town scene of everyone trying to "get back in the groove", for lack of a better term. I haven't watched DOS since theaters but I just felt this strange air of none of the actors buying into the proceedings at all, which diminished after that point and I had also not felt in the previous installments. I don't know if it's just me or if I'm doing a terrible job of articulating this.
Overall, this one felt torturous. I was so thoroughly disappointed by AUJ, as I think most sane people were, that, with extremely lowered expectations, I did manage to enjoy DOS and all of its excesses. But this one seemed to crank of the issues of these films, and Jackson's filmmaking style in general up to 11. The most enjoyment I've gotten from these films is seeing Legolas perform ridiculous CGI stunts, as that seems to be one of the only qualities these films share with LOTR.
Saniss wrote:I think the worst part is how in two seconds, you go from a badass handsome character having the upper hand to a toothless blind wreck getting his head smashed in. The contrast is what makes his death so violent (also, you know, the gore).
It actually hit me harder than the Red Wedding, oddly.
That definitely adds to the impact, the fact that he is just destroyed in seconds. Comparing them as scenes the red wedding is horrifying more for it being the destruction of the stark cause(and maybe by extension hope overall for any kind of clean ending to the story) whereas the fight is just horrifying in a base physical sense. Obviously both scenes have some overlap in existential and physical horror but this is pretty much how I'd separate them. I was sad at the end of both episodes but only one made me want to throw up.
Even knowing what was coming, it's been a while since I've been quite so viscerally horrified by an act of violence on screen as I was by Oberyn's death.
Eddie wrote:I like Wings of Desire just fine. Don't know if I could rally the crew around it. I'm trying to curate Night of the Hunter, currently.
Do you mean the Robert Mitchum movie? Because the first result on IMDB is a strange looking tv movie from '91. I'm really intrigued by the Mitchum one, do you know if it was the first to do the love/hate fists thing?
I would love for you guys to do Wings of Desire, but unless someone has some hidden love for it I could see it not working out. Although the fact that it has an off putting Nicolas Cage remake might make for some good discussion.
Thanks for the warm welcomes all!
Zarban wrote:Welcome, Zak! Keep us apprised of your podcast progress, or "prodcrest".
I surely will, it's going to take a while but I really hope I can get it to work out.
After how incredibly let down I was by AUJ, I had zero expectations for this movie and I ended up enjoying myself far more than I have AUJ on either of my two rewatchings. However, despite receiving the blu-ray as a gift I have yet to feel compelled to revisit it. It really breaks my heart how much the magic has just been lost with these films. I guess it makes the rings films seem all the better for the comparison, but I still don't understand how this team can have dropped the ball this much. And I still wish we could have seen GDT's version of the movies...
Hi, I'm Zak. I've been listening since theonering.net made a post about the LOTR commentaries. At first, I was reluctant to listen for fear of this being some sort of mockery of my beloved films, so I played it safe and listened to the Shaun of the Dead episode first. I realized that this is a podcast where people actually know what they're talking about and I could even accept dissenting opinions of LOTR if they were this well informed.
Since then I've, hopefully, vastly matured in the way I think about film and other people's opinions about film. This podcast has been an incredibly welcome companion in the many tedious hours I've spent working at golf courses the past two summers. And when I'm not spending my summers toiling in the fields, I'm working on a degree in radio/tv production and am sort of developing a podcast of my own.
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