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True. I am pretty much exclusively a book guy, so I can't really speak to the other mediums, but the books are definitely not definable as a "Comedy" full stop.
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Is there such a thing as a "comedy" book? "Humor", yes, and Hitchhiker's qualifies as that.
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Ok, here's one- True Lies is a bit shit. It is racist, misogynistic rubbish with some admittedly good action but thoroughly unlikeable characters and a middle hour that is so boring, it borders on ridiculous. The first act and the finale are perfectly fine but holy shit that whole 'my wife is cheating on me, let's put her through Hell' storyline is atrocious.
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255 2013-11-02 20:24:45 (edited by Doctor Submarine 2013-11-02 20:30:12)
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Hey, I've got a new one: Terrence Malick is awful.
"Hey, look at me! I'm filming people walking around in nature and mumbling banal philosophical platitudes! My films don't mean anything, but they sure seem like they do!"
I've been meaning to see Badlands, which I've heard is his crowning achievement, but based on The Tree of Life and The Thin Red Line, I just can't stand this guy. Everything he does just seems like the easiest form of intellectual engagement. "Here's a scene of Jessica Chastain chasing a butterfly, while she whispers about the importance of grace or something in voiceover! What does any of this mean? Who cares! It'll trick you into feeling really smart for watching." Ughhhh.
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256 2013-11-02 22:18:29 (edited by bullet3 2013-11-02 22:21:11)
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I think there's a masterpiece buried inside Tree of Life, if you were to completely strip out all the fucking narration and cut out 25 minutes. But ya, as much as I love a lot of what it's doing, it's just too self-indulgent for it's own good. You should give his earlier stuff a chance though, he started out with much more straightforward, mainstream storytelling.
Regarding True Lies - I fully acknowledge the problems, but the high points of that movie are so jaw-droppingly good they completely erase any 2nd act problems for me. It's got possibly Cameron's best pure action sequences, it's got Schwarzeneggar's best performance, it's got Tom Arnold in the best movie of his career. I can't call any movie bad when it delivers like 4 different all-time-great action set-pieces.
Interestingly, it's also clearly the blue-print for Michael Bay's movies in a lot of ways (the misogynistic comedy, the glorifying of american military hardware), which just goes to show how shit Michael Bay is as a filmmaker, when he isn't even able to get close to Cameron's weakest movie.
260 2013-11-03 03:22:57 (edited by avatar 2013-11-03 08:55:14)
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You can literally fan-edit Tree of Life into an all-time great film, all the material is there, the rough outlines story-structure wise work (the history of the universe, juxtaposed with the proverbial blip in the time-stream of a single kid's childhood), the performances are great. The ambition is staggering, it's just 20 minutes too long. I can't dislike a movie that tries for so much when most movies don't try at all.
Also, it not winning for Best Cinematography was a crime.
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Ya, when I say cut it down, I don't mean changing the whole idea and meaning. Malick is a very spiritual guy, and I don't mind the "we'll all be reunited one day" stuff. It doesn't push any specific theology at all, nor does some form of afterlife imply a god-figure pulling the strings. The best thing about the movie is the way it suggests that either a creator doesn't exist, or if he does, he doesn't give a fuck about you as he's kinda busy creating and shaping the universe and all of space-time.
I would keep the intent and meaning the same, just trim out 20-30 minutes throughout.
Sidenote - I hope his IMAX documentary assembled from all this footage happens at some point, cause it's probably the best-looking representation of the creation of the universe and life on earth that's ever been put together
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Ya, the characters come from a strictly christian household (similar to the one Malick grew up in), but the movie in no way suggests they are correct (they are never answered back or anything like that). I see it as more like 2001, in the way it tries to be a universal story of humanity. Yes, it leans towards there being "some" kind of other beyond our lifetimes, but it's intentionally super vague about it, you could read it as pretty much any faith.
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I am a fan of film scores, I listen to them on their own but, while I don't think Zimmer is shite, I tend not to listen to his stuff much. He has done good scores in the past but a lot of his recent work just isn't really for me. Although,a lot of modern film scores are a bit shite, sadly, I still give them a chance. Some are good but for re-listens, I often to back to older scores.
274 2013-11-05 08:50:47 (edited by Abbie 2013-11-05 10:47:07)
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Ya, I get what he's doing, but I think his trend-setting has been some of the worst things to ever happen to film music. As a fan of film scores, I would hate the shit out of him, if it wasn't for his amazing 90s stuff (or the occasional bright spot like his "Rango" score) there to show me he's capable of writing awesome stuff, but has just decided to do boring-ass "minimalist" rising strings. You know what, ya, if you whittle your music down to where there's practically nothing to it and it's just 2 notes, it's really easy to do thematic things with them because your theme is almost non-existent. That doesn't impress me, and I'll go one further and say that does not automatically make it fit better for his movies. Some movies, like Dark Knight, that stuff works great, but when I'm watching my sweeping action adventure, I want to FEEL something instead of generic low-strings. I'll always love Zimmer for his 90s stuff, but much like Michael Mann and his recent "shutter crime" phase, I wish he'd get over it already.
Part of this is me still bitter over his Man of Steel score, which I pretty much hate, but ya, when I look to the future of film-scoring, I look at guys like Alexandre Desplat and John Powell over Zimmer at this point.
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