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Faldor, unfortunately I'm working, sorry. Would be fun.
I heard no hype going into it and I thought the finale was very good. The Brienne/Hound fight was brutal and intense. I was on the edge of my seat. I just wish I knew what Arya's deal was when the Hound was laying there, dying. I didn't understand why she didn't kill him, or even speak. Can anyone shed more light on that (in a non-spoilery way)?
I really wanted Tyrion to pull that trigger on Tywin, but I'm afraid he's going a little crazy town banana pants on us.
The good news is that it seems like we may get a lot more time with Varys next season. Of course, those could be the famous last words before they kill him off in the second episode.
Nor am I. I was just going for the easy joke. ![]()
I'm almost caught up on this show. I've been quite impressed with how often the show re-aligns with the books after its divergences (e.g. Ramsay and Theon). Also, the finality of Robb Stark Jnr at the Red Wedding poses an interesting question for those of us who have spent the last 10 years hoping that Jeyne Westerling was carrying his child.
I always liked Stannis, 'cause for the most part, he says what he plans to do and why, and then he does it. I find him refreshingly straightforward.
In the books, Davos' POV chapters help a lot to sympathize with Stannis. The Onion Knight truly loves him.
There's a great passage in one of the books where Stannis basically comes out and says, look I don't WANT to be king at all, but by every law in the book, I'm supposed to be king. I don't wanna do it, but without the law we have nothing and so I'm just doing my part. He's not wrong, of course. The book also has a great analogy of the three Baratheon boys where someone is comparing them to different metals. Renly is described as Copper, shiny to look at and pliant to the people, but not strong enough for real combat. Stannis is described as Iron, rigid, inflexible, and ultimately brittle because of it. Robert is described as the true alloy, the steel that neither of the others were. He had charisma and was loved by the people, but he was also tough as shit and could fight for the crown. Robert was an awful King, but its hinted heavily that he was probably the best possibility of the three in the long run.
I think Robert was too consumed with his lost love and the unhappiness of his union with Cersei (and his children) to become a good king. The way everyone talks about the Greyjoy Rebellion, that seems like the high point of his reign, everyone together fighting against a house none of them especially liked. Also, Robert was a warrior king without a war to fight.
However, that said. He wasn't that awful, his reign was pretty long and he kept the peace for almost twenty years.
Ok, so the show is pretty much at that point it's passing the books. I'm not sure how I want to continue, mainly because there are some big events coming (particularly in the North) which I would much prefer reading. And whilst, yes, the show is its effectively its own thing, there are some currently hanging book resolutions that must be spoiled by the show. Not necessarily how they happen, but the what happens.
And that's the question. Anyhow else having this dilemma?
I have not read the books, nor do I paticularly have any intense deisre too, so no.
However, re: last episode, not a whole lot to say, it remains good, Dragon effects were probably the shakiest I've ever seen this show. Some serious Philosophers Stone Quidditch vibes going on there.
But holy, can we all give a round of applause for Kerry Ingram please? That was incredible, in a bone chilling, I can't believe how horrifying this is, sort of way.
I think this is the first time they've blown one of their season enders. Shoulda budgeted for the dragon FX, it's super weird when you follow up an episode that would look great as a feature film, with FX that would barely pass muster on network TV 10 years ago. Very disappointing
Well, not a season ender yet. One more to go.
But yeah, still, to go straight from the zombie fight to that was a bit weird.
I thought the dragon looked fine.
But that burning scene is by far the worst they've done.
As in, I don't mind the show following the books, on the contrary, I enjoy it, but Stannis Baratheon should have a long and painful death. That scene made my stomach turn and drew tears from my eyes, a feat no other digital medium has done.
It was so dumb. Stannis' primary character trait is "does not compromise." Dude stayed holed up in Storm's End for over a year eating rats because he wouldn't give it up to the sieging soldiers. But now he loses some food and he's immediately prepared to make THE BIGGEST COMPROMISE POSSIBLE? Two weeks after unilaterally declaring that he would not do it?
I think there's a version of this that works, but they need to actually develop Stannis' devolution into madness. Not have him do an instant heel-turn at the first sign of trouble. And most of Stannis' soldiers aren't Lord of Light followers. Why are they all just standing there? Presumably next week we'll find out that some of them abandoned the cause after this. If not...wow. This fucking show.
Ya I've been pretty on board with most of the book to show changes, but this one feels like character assassination. There's just not nearly enough time devoted to it for Stannis to make that choice. It's clearly meant to parallel The Illiad, where the king sacrifices his daughter to the gods for favorable weather so they can sail to and attack Troy, but it feels like it comes out of nowhere on the show.
To be fair, they have been laying the groundwork for a while. Shereen specifically was first mentioned a few episodes ago and Mel has been noting the power of King's blood since the early days.
I find it to be a step too far for Stannis, and although there is a heavy foreshadowing of sacrifice in the mythology surrounding what Stannis is supposed to be in the story (or rather what Mel believes him to be) I just think the show has solidified its own portrayal of Stannis as a baddie.
The problem there is that I don't quite agree with that reading of Stannis, him turning up at the wall and defeating Mance's army is an awesome and heroic moment in the books but in the show it's almost sinister. So, that they have gone that way is interesting and possibly revealing about book Stannis' ultimate direction. After all, can a Stannis that burns his daughter be a Stannis that is a hero in the story?
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