Topic: Charlie Kaufman does Kickstarter

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That's one way to do it. But I still think you would run into the issue of getting people to bother with it. What I mean is that, I'm sure there would be a small niche that would love spending hours digging through pages of movies to find something that interested them, and who wouldn't mind paying the fee to try something out.

But then you have the rest of the world that doesn't actually seek out new media in that fashion. The people that have no idea whats playing except for the trailers they've seen blasted in their face. And from my experience that's the vast percentage of the population. So, while the distribution method might work (And it would actually be nice if it could piggy back on something like steam that already has a wide dedicated fan base that might dig something like that.) you still hit the wall of actually telling enough people about your movie, and getting them interested enough to seek it out.

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I think there are probably a couple of differing opinions on this, perhaps we'll see it come up in an intermission.

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Probably, like I said, I could be entirely wrong. But I don't know how to get past that wall. I really wish I did, but I don't.

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Well yeah. It definitely has issues, but I was just outlining what I think would need to happen in order to turn a kickstarter workflow into something that could be financially viable.

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I whole-heartedly agree with you about the cost === value misconception in audiences. The problem with your alternative of leveraging smaller online communities in a broader sense is that these communities are far smaller than you would think, and they're also the kind of communities that are hesitant to spend money.

Point in case I always bring up is something like Attack the Block, which got a US release after being a hit on the festival circuit. Now this thing was being pimped like crazy by pretty much every major movie website on the internet, everyone was posting rave reviews for it, URGING people to watch this movie, and this went on for probabaly a month of more. And the end result? 1 million box-office domestic. That right there is near the top-end of the amount of money you can get from word-of-mouth online if you're a relative unknown (which Joe Cornish was largely in the US, as were the actors).

Anytime you see a huge "breakout" hit like Paranormal Activity, that didn't happen through online buzz. That happened through an extensive and very smart marketing campaign by Paramount, a marketing campaign that probably cost 10-15 million dollars at the least.

So while the community-targeted approach can work, the amount of money you can realistically get that way is very small, so the scale of the projects is destined to be tiny.

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18 (edited by BigDamnArtist 2012-07-19 09:50:52)

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You don't have to be famous, you just need to network. Like always.

For example, what if MadGod tips it's hat to a production by Trey (because of network), driving eyes and funding?
What if Trey then tips his hat to a production by Teague, (because of network) driving eyes and funding?
Or, real life example, Eddie tips his hat to a kick arse MMA production which drives eyes and funding?

Backers become your initial audience and word-of-mouth advertising campaign.

Technology doesn't replace the need to build networks and community. I recommend people I've met or worked with for jobs in corporate land, same as in creative land. Same shit with kickstarter; people trust recommendations by people they know.

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