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So let's see, between the previous thread and this one, are we ready to place bets on what we'll see in the season finale?    This is sort of our version of the writer's room - we already know what the story is, we're just deciding how much of it they'll tell this season.

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Joffrey's wedding - yeah, as much as it might be fun to have it now, I'm now thinking it's pretty unlikely.

The arrival of Coldhands - the perfect closer to Sam's story for this season, and a solid WTF to ponder until next season.   Very likely.

Introducing Lady Stoneheart - as a second surprise built on last week, and to pay off all that time with the Brotherhood and their ability to raise the dead.   Extremely likely.

Jorah banished:  A good reversal, and it's time for it to happen.  Highly likely.

The Hound goes down and Arya sets off alone.  Would make a decent closer to her story this season - we just saw that conversation last week about sticking a sword in his eye.  Would  make sense to follow that up with her having the opportunity but not doing it.  Somewhat likely.

The ones I dunno:

The Lannisters  They didn't get any screen time last week at all, we'll certainly see them this week.  What will we see there?

Jon Snow?

Bran and Co.?

Anyone got a guess about those?

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I'd say that Arya leaving the Hound is almost certain. Virtually nothing else happens in that storyline between the Red Wedding and the end of the book.

Other than that, probably a shit ton of cliffhangers. I'm betting on Jon's story ending with the Wildlings about to attack Castle Black. Not much is going on at King's Landing, though. It's gonna be a weird hour.

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Arya sailing away as she looks back at Westeros feels like it would be a solid closer for her, although they will need quite a bit of screen-time to get to that point (at least 10-15 min).

I'm curious if they'll get another scene with John and Ygritte before they're split up for good, it felt a little weird when he ditched her the way they played the scene last episode. His plot ends with him reaching Castle-black, and perhaps seeing Mance's army approaching on the other side.

I'm almost certain no Purple Wedding, just needs too much time, I'd put money on that being episode 4 next season (they've setup a bit of a pattern now of big events in eps 4 and 9). Jaime sees his father, re-instates Brienne into the Kingsguard maybe to get some closure on that plot. Dunno what they do with Tyrion, probably nothing meaningful as he hasn't had much of an arc this season.

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Yeah, but I like the idea of Arya mercy killing the Hound. I hope they keep that in.

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Another bit regarding Jon's Targaryen roots: His stab wound is described as 'smoking' at the end of book 5. Then again, he did take quite the burn from a lantern in book 1, which doesn't line up with dragon blood.

Incidentally, is anyone else annoyed with the number of people who are 'dead' but (probably) not really? Brienne and Jon are currently in limbo. There were Cat and Gregor too, though they are seriously changed and follow the trend towards introducing more magic. Theon got a fake-out death too, and the fake over Arya's sight also annoyed me, though mostly because she just vanished for at least half a book.

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We also see Jon get burned in the series when he fights off the wights on the Wall - which is about the only argument I know of against him being Targaryaen.   But I justify it because he's only half-dragon whereas Danaerys is pure (if incestuous) Targaryaen.

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As an aside, Arya is my favourite character by a country mile.

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I did the audiobooks. Haven't a foggy how to spell anyone's name tongue I can pronounce them all though (and get annoyed when the show does it WRONG I TELL YOU WRONG! It's VAY-lar mor-GUL-is)

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In the books, yeah - same here.  I'm hoping for a serious revenge spree once Arya graduates Assassin School.

On the show, I gotta go with the easy answer - Dinklage has made Tyrion much more sympathetic and adorable than the one I imagined from the books.

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Joffrey's wedding would be an excellent way to open a new season, plus it finally lets Sansa start her story.

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Now that you mention it, that's very likely the way they'll do it.  They don't have the time for a lot of extra business on the show-pretty much everything is there for a reason.  And they took the time to do the Dontos setup.

Which paves the way to bring Dontos back early next season, hey remember me?  You saved my life etc etc.  Then let them build their plot for a few episodes, then flip that all on its head with the Joffrey Surprise mid-season.

Back half of the season is the fallout from that - Tyrion accused, Cersei goes batshit, Sansa and Littlefinger run for the Aerie.  And then the season-ender (or episode 9 smile) Tyrion pays a call on Dad.

EDIT:  New thought - it would make a certain kind of sense to bring Dontos back in the last episode of THIS season and introduce the idea of a plot right now.  That could plant the seed for next season's arc: Sansa Makes Her Move

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There has been a lot of discussion of Shae replacing Dontos in Sansa's stroyline. I'm unsure how I feel about that decision, should it be the case.

Whoever it ends up being, having a midnight godswood meeting where the possibility of escape is mentioned would be a good way to wrap up Sansa for this season.

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