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I'm not really sure why Brave is average, or truly understand the criticism that it feels like 2 stories that are in some way disconnected. I've not seen either of the Cars films or Up (or a few others too for that matter), so am not fully clued up on all of Pixar's library but Brave doesn't feel to me any less of a solid fun Pixar movie than the rest.

And Finding Nemo wasn't that great. To me, the Toy Stories, Monsters Inc. and Incredibles have been their highlights.

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Breaking News: ‘Sexy Merida’ Pulled by Disney After Backlash
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-tal … 58013.html

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Disney's been assembling an Avengers-style team of ethnically-diverse princesses for years now, all slightly aged up and tarted up to be more palatable and elegant.

But this character isn't allowed to dress up and brush her hair? She has to be a ragamuffin tomboy forever? Pfft.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Her mother, minus the fur, was one hot little number. Probably her father was like a little skeeved out by seeing his daughter all grown up and mature. They're sure to work it out real soon, Daddy and daughter each with greater respect for the other. Just like on 7th Heaven...and have you seen Mary Camden lately? She brought sexy back.

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Zarban wrote:

Disney's been assembling an Avengers-style team of ethnically-diverse princesses for years now, all slightly aged up and tarted up to be more palatable and elegant.

But this character isn't allowed to dress up and brush her hair? She has to be a ragamuffin tomboy forever? Pfft.

I'm honestly surprised by the outcry on this one...
I shouldn't be-it's the Internet.
But I am  hmm

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Well, it goes against the entire point of the character. She has no interest in being all girly-girl and princess-y, so to do this is kind of an insult to the character. Brenda Chapman, the co-director of Brave, is pissed from what I hear.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

Well, it goes against the entire point of the character. She has no interest in being all girly-girl and princess-y, so to do this is kind of an insult to the character. Brenda Chapman, the co-director of Brave, is pissed from what I hear.

Please don't misunderstand me. I don't think the change is good and I get that the character is supposed to be more of a tomboy.
I just have a hard time with the fact that Disney Princesses have been made to a certain mold and then one gets changed to fit that mold.

I don't know...maybe someone can explain it better than I. I am annoyed at the whole Princess stereotype, though I am guilty of buying some things for my girls. However, my daughter also enjoys swords, bows and arrows, tennis, basketball, gymnastics and reading.

I think i lost my point...

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They added some gold trim to her dress and removed her bow, I really don't see the big deal. It's not like she was wearing leather armour with skulls hanging off beforehand.

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They also gave her an hourglass figure and bedroom eyes - that was the sort of thing that was objected to, not her outfit.

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From the picture I saw, I can't really see an hourglass figure and bedroom eyes. Or the messier hair or bigger breasts that I've read about elsewhere. Are there other pictures that reveal the changes more clearly?

The 'changes' I do see appear to stem more from the transition from 3D CGI model to 2D drawing than a deliberate attempt to sexy her up. And really, that's sexy? Seems to me to be going too far to call this an insult to the character, as if Merida would never a nice dress and not be carrying her bow. Isn't that missing the point of the story, where Merida learns that she has responsibility and cannot always just do what she wants when she wants?

Rahh! Outrage! Loud noises! Because of course, the film itself remains untouched and impressionable girls aged 5-10 are probably, I don't know, going to be watching the film a lot more than they go visiting Disney parks and browsing the princess-themed website.

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I think The Bloggess has pretty much the best take on it...

Two uncomfortable truths: New Merida looks a little whorey. Fewer people care about this than you would think.

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We've gone through this before. Mulan is the other warrior princess, but you won't see her with weapons wandering the parks.

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Why does this keep coming back to the weapons?   That's not what the complaints were about.

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What Trey said, it's not the dress or the bow. It's the sudden loss of some internal organs and the 'come hither' eyes.

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I must be missing something because, like redxavier, I'm not seeing the "whorey" in the new Merida.
But yeah, either way, I don't really care.
Edit: Ok, I'll give you the eyes.

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I think it keeps coming back to weapons because in both cases its the most obvious of the differences between the two heroines and the typical Disney princess.  Unfortunately all they did was mold Merida into the typical Disney princess style, so even if they do re-do the online presence the physical presence in terms of toys and in the parks will remain the same so she fits with the style and marketing.   Wish I could say I was surprised.

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I really hate the redesigning of Princesses but, like many others, can't say that I am surprise.
All the Princesses eventually fall in to the same, stereotyped, design.
Honestly, even the packaging of any Brave merchandise has redesigned Merida so it isn't quite a severe change to my eyes.

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Ruh roh?

Pixar Animation yanks director Bob Peterson off 'The Good Dinosaur'

One of the more interesting pullquotes from the article:

"All directors get really deep in their films," Catmull said this week. "Sometimes you just need a different perspective to get the idea out. Sometimes directors ... are so deeply embedded in their ideas it actually takes someone else to finish it up. I would go so far as to argue that a lot of live-action films would be better off with that same process."

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THEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


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Well, they seem to have taken your advice, The Good Dinosaur has been moved from May 2014 to November 2015. Of course that means there's no Pixar film next year.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=109129

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Le approve.

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*sigh*

Cars 3 and The Incredibles 2 announced.

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If Brad Bird is involved, I'm so on board for Incredibles 2 that I'm practically a boat captain. If Brad Bird is NOT involved... then the world is a dark, terrible place and there's no hope for future generations.

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He's at least doing the first script, which for a Pixar movie means nothing. Of all the Pixar movies, The Incredibles is the one that cries out the most for more. Hell, it would make a great TV series.

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A cash grab and an indie piece.  Sounds fair to me.
Unless there's a Jack-Jack action figure at Burger King, then it's just two cash grabs.

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