Re: Twilight
I think the Nostalgia Critic is an embarrassment to criticism and he must be stopped at all costs. So there's my contribution to the conversation.
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I think the Nostalgia Critic is an embarrassment to criticism and he must be stopped at all costs. So there's my contribution to the conversation.
As someone who has watched most of his videos, I just don't see it. I may not always agree with his opinions but I don't always agree with FIYH, either. Sometimes, I think Doug's reviews completely miss the mark (Last Action Hero). Sometimes, I find him really insightful and thought provoking (AI, Tribute to Roger Ebert). Most of the time, above all else, he just makes me laugh, hard (The Care Bears Movie, The Shining miniseries, Pearl Harbor).
If he spent more time making unique and interesting observations about film and less time shrieking and spouting memes, I might have more respect for him. He's plot-hole-culture incarnate. That entire way of looking at film just bugs the shit out of me.
And tbh, he's not nearly as bad as all the shitty imitations of him. Because of him, there are thousands of people on the internet who think that screaming about bad movies is as good as criticism gets. And that's basically evil in my book.
Plot-hole-culture? Huh. Never heard that before.
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I feel I should clarify something. I saw Twilight (the first film) and was surprised at myself for not hating it. It's beautifully shot, well-directed and contains some unironically, interesting and entertaining moments. I'm not even opposed to the basic idea of the material: Teen girl moves to a new town where she doesn't know anyone, strikes up a relationship with a boy who turns out to be a vampire and together, they must save themselves and each other from the threat of a secret society of other vampires who want the girl for her rare, virgin blood.
On the face of it, that has the potential to be very compelling, exciting and unique. You could even treat Bella's blood like a weapon that could be used against the human race if the vampires succeed in trying to harvest it from her. Maybe work it so she discovers she can take control of her body and use her blood against the vampires (like, they have to perform some kind of ritual and kill her before the blood can do what they need it to do). Because her blood is pure, it burns Vampires like holy water. Some self sacrifice could take place at the end, in an effort to save one of our protagonists.
The werewolves could be brought into the story as well. Subvert the trope of them being snarling, mindless killing machines and have them be a more peaceful race that are one with nature, stay away from humans and only eat animals in the forests and don't like to get involved in the warring factions between the two different vampire clans. Despite all this, Jacob and Edward are longstanding friends and when Edward asks for his help, Jacob and his people initially refuse. However, Jacob and Bella begin to inadvertently develop feelings for each other. This causes tension between Edward and Jacob at first, testing their friendship. Ultimately, Edward (being the much older and wiser one) feels that it's not right for either of them to fight over Bella and treat her like a prize to be won and it's best left up to her.
Trouble is, Bella is having a hard time making such a decision, especially given that a supernatural war is eminent and she's still a teenager. On the one hand, she met Edward first and she likes his dark, potentially dangerous nature. On the other hand, Jacob would be a more secure, practical way to go. He wouldn't out live her and he's her best bet to a normal life.
The war goes down and the "bad" vampires hold Edward hostage, in an effort to get the "good" vampires (in this case, the Cullen clan) to hand Bella over. She starts to agree, just so she can hopefully save Edward, when Jacob and his people arrive as reinforcements, as Jacob has convinced them it's the noble thing to do. They save Edward but he feels the war will not stop and Bella will always be in danger. So, he sacrifices himself by drinking some of her blood, thus making it impure but killing himself in the process. Though at the cost of Edward's life, Bella is safe to have the life he never could and her new relationship with Jacob helps to bring the werewolf clan out of hiding, so they can live in unity with humans.
Or something.
Get a competent, female writer to pen that and I would totally read/watch it.
Just tell me there's a scene where the anime stops dead in its tracks so the creatures can play sports for no good reason. ![]()
Nope. There is an episode, however, where the unit's computer wiz has created a program to guess probability using which colored panties the main character is going to wear that day as a test, and it ends up having real world applications. Also lots of evil plants. (It's actually a rather good show, the comedy relief characters becoming fleshed out as the serious plot lines kick in).
ADVision released it in the US alongside Neon Genesis Evangelion, and it sort of got lost. I think they paid the same for both shows, as such things are based on what the Japanese think they're worth.
Enjoying a story who's ideology you disagree with can be difficult, but it can be done. One reason I can enjoy religious movies and music while having no faith in their core beliefs myself. Hell, any story about someone becoming king or queen goes against my core democratic principles, but I usually don't come away from them wishing there had been a peasant revolt killing the hero and installing some parliamentary system.
Ideally, critics should be focusing on what, if anything, the movie is saying, and how well it's saying it. Whether you agree with the point or not should come into the process very late, if at all. It does, though, too often devolve into just using the movie as an excuse to give their point of view. I remember a "wonderful" review of the Next Generation pilot, "Encounter at Farpoint", in the free Communist newspaper left in the University of Buffalo Commons. Their opinion was that it was great when Q was going on about how humans had fucked up and nuked the planet, but did not go NEARLY far enough in that direction. Very amusing.
Yes, that was in fact Roger Ebert who said that.
While it's vague enough to theorize on multiple meanings from it, I think the main thing he was saying was:
Regardless of similar genre or plot, not all films are created equal, so presentation and execution counts for an awful lot. For example, you can have two films about a zombie apocalypse but how you choose to tell that story can play greatly into whether or not a zombie film, uh, zombie likes one over the other, or even if he likes either one at all. To put this in a more topical context, look at the core through lines from Twilight and let's say, the first three seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer: A romance between a human and a vampire. Strip everything else away, and that's the single, consistent narrative that touches and changes everything else. Both properties, when you get at the heart of them are about watching these two characters fall in love and try to have a relationship and make it work, despite their stations in existence.
Everything else is either reversed or completely different, right down to the film stock, storytelling format and aspect ratio. All of this will influence and inform the viewer's opinion and assessment of that basic story idea. If you're a fan of that "human loves vampire" theme, because of all those other differences, even if you do in fact love both properties, you're going to eventually prefer one over the other.
Personally, the only "critic" I've seen that tends to review things from a generally shallow, almost narrow-minded perspective, the way in which I think Ewing is raging against would probably be Confused Matthew but maybe that's just me.
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