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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Wow, I guess agree to disagree then.  I really liked that score a lot, particularly the life track posted above.  Haven't really bothered with the alien franchise, save for aliens several years ago, so don't know how it holds up against any of those.

As bullet said, they were going for wonder and mystery.  Seems to fit to me.  Noomi rapace on a noble cause on another planet to search for the meaning of life.  The film may have not pulled it off, but I don't think it's fair to blame the score for the film's other shortcomings.  It fits for what they were "trying" to do.

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I haven't seen it, but I have a question for those of you who have.

To what extent did the visuals redeem the movie?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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It's a pretty looking flick, but that doesn't make me wanna see it again.

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If you can see it in a nice Imax 3d screening, it's for my money the best 3d movie I've ever seen (including Avatar). The depth is amazing, without being distracting, and there's loads of cool stuff, like holograms, and a dust storm sequence where dust debris is flying in front of the screen and characters. As a Space Nerd, it was definitely worth it to me to see it once, but I wouldn't watch it again.

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Anyone else noticed the reference to ALIENS?

"DAVID, WE ARE LEAVING!"

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Someone on twitter suggested Peter O'Toole for the part of old Weyland.

That would have been fun to see...

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Why WAS old Weyland played by Guy Pearce in make-up? Surely it wasn't just so they could do that TED Talk thing as part of the viral marketing...

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90 (edited by Squiggly_P 2012-06-09 15:42:21)

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That is an interesting read, but they've sacrificed their story on the alter of empty metaphor. Even if all of that is true - and it seems likely - why are you telling me that? Why are you making all of these connections between prometheus, jesus, the engineers and shaw? Just putting them there doesn't mean anything in itself. Why did you try to cram that into the alien mythos when you could have made it a completely different movie and probably had it make more sense?

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I'm guessing they used Pearce as Weyland so they could later have a younger Weyland in one of the next movies? Or maybe his son? Or maybe a robot that looks like him or something?

Dunno...

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92 (edited by Matt Vayda 2012-06-09 22:06:28)

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94 (edited by Xtroid 2012-06-11 07:32:15)

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According to Ridley, Apparently 20-30 minutes was cut out and will make it's way onto the blu-ray release, including a fight scene with Shaw and the engineer at the end (I thought the current confrontation was way too abrupt, so yay). Might at least help fix some of the disjointedness.

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The thing I found fun was the fact that some seriously crazy stuff can be going on, maybe even next door, and no one else on the ship gives a rat's ass about it.

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This is probably the first time I've disagreed with Stocklasa's opinion of a film, being that he didn't mind the fact that the story was incomprehensible due to the neat scenes and stuff. Kinda hypocritical, but I get it if people wanna like the movie for that, cause some of the scenes are pretty cool.

I just can't let it go.

The most important thing for me in a movie are the characters. In this movie there's not one character that feels realistic at all. They all feel pretty good at the beginning of the movie, like they're working on putting some character into them, you know? But by the end of the movie, every single one of the characters has gone off the rails, and some of them are apparently supposed to be totally different characters than what I thought they were going to be.

The dude with the mohawk...  I thought at the beginning of the movie that he was some hired muscle or something. He's kinda brooding and dark, he tells that one dude to eat shit and die, basically, he's 'in it for the money'... the only smart thing he does is question the 'evidence' in the briefing, but all of them do that because that's the logical thing to do. Then you find out that he's a geologist, and NOT ONCE does he say or do anything even remotely having to do with geology. He's not interested in the brand new planet they've found, he's not interested in the structure they're in, he's not interested in fucking anything. Ever. He doesn't even pick up a rock to take a look. He may as well have said "I'm the pope" because his character shares about as much with a pope as it does with a geologist. Same with the biologist. Same with the two nameless co-pilots.

Even David and Elizabeth - the two characters everyone's raving about - are complete ciphers. In some movies that would be awesome, but in this movie nothing at all works. Even the scary bits are let down a lot by the fact that I don't give two shits about any of the characters. The only bit that works is the ... THAT scene... and it only works because of the shit that has happened to that character in the prior few scenes. After ...  THAT scene... she goes back to being totally idiotic again.

Like I said, the writing in this is some of the worst I've seen. It's super-cool that they managed to weave such a neat jesus / greek myth parallel into the movie and gave a potential source for those myths to have sprung from, but that's supposed to be extra-added bonus content to the main course, which should have been some story about characters in a situation. There's a ton of different things you could do with the basic setup of "humans find cave paintings pointing them to some distant star system, so they go there". You could have made it any number of movies, but you teased me a hard sci-fi horror / thriller, and you gave me a greek myth as painted by Pablo Picasso.

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