Topic: A Song of Ice and Fire (BOOK READERS ONLY; MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD)

Let's say that anything in all 5 books is fair game, so if you've yet to finish the series, stay away until you do.

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So, what should we talk about?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Jon Snow's mom!   Or Teague's mom.   Somebody's mom.

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Go home Spork, you're drunk.

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Something I noticed with last episode: they appear to have dropped (at least for the moment) Jorah Mormont's initial mission (which was, spy on Daenerys for King's landing). They mentioned it in season 1, but it should have been revealed to Daenerys before Yunkai's taking.

I wonder whether they're just keeping it for later or not. Jorah's supposed to be going his own way and capture Tyrion.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Pff! It's made very clear that his parents are Ned Stark and some broad he met during the war who he just doesn't want to talk about.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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7 (edited by Doctor Submarine 2013-06-05 12:45:59)

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I think you might be onto something there, that would make for a more interesting story to be sure. And what a twist!




Seriously though, one thing that always bums me out is thinking about Ned never being able to tell Jon the truth.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Hijacking your thread title just to make sure people get the distinction.

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Definitely agree with Trey, I think the show all but confirmed Lyanna Stark was the mother when Ned told Jon that he was 'my blood'.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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That always seemed like an overly reaching fan theory to me, I liked the idea of Ned having fucked up at one point and had a kid, it humanized him a bit. That being said, I hadn't heard that interview with Benioff and Weiss, that does seem to make a convincing case.

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Seriously, check out the scene in episode 2 of the first season, where Ned and Robert have their little picnic chat under the trees.   Robert asks Ned flat-out about Snow's mother and Ned refuses to talk about it.   In the same conversation, Robert also talks about how determined he is to eliminate all traces of the Targaryaen bloodline. 

Watch that scene with the mindset  of "Ned doesn't want Robert to know Snow is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna" and everything Ned says and does makes perfect sense.  smile

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The bed of blood that Ned describes at the Tower of Joy in AGOT, along with the vague cause of death, has always been the biggest hint.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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16 (edited by Saniss 2013-06-05 13:56:22)

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Or GRR Martin is just trolling us....hence Jon being stabbed to death in the last book

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well, if ALL of this is a red herring and he goes somewhere else with it, then good for him smile

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Jorah getting banished would be a great way to end Dany's storyline for this season. And it would also be a HUGE twist for non-book-readers, who have been made to heavily sympathize with Jorah over his unrequited love for Dany in recent episodes. Book-Jorah always came across as kind of a creep to me. A well-meaning creep, but a creep nonetheless, and I wasn't too broken up to see him go. Loved his stuff with Tyrion in ADWD though.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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23 (edited by AshDigital 2013-06-05 15:22:57)

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I would never lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Yeah, it looks like Strong Belwas isn't going to be showing up.    Unless they've been saving him for next season, since Dany's gained a pretty big entourage already.   Maybe if they move Jorah out they'll bring Belwas in. smile