Re: Raiders.
Same with people who don't know classical music and John Williams. Or, well, virtually any musician.
That said, I love me some Williams.
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Same with people who don't know classical music and John Williams. Or, well, virtually any musician.
That said, I love me some Williams.
All the great classical composers rip-off John Williams. Wait...
I listened to Howard Hanson's 2nd Symphony the other night and thought, Well that's where E.T. came from. Especially the 3rd movement.
That being said, I love me some John Williams too. On topic, the Desert Chase track from Raiders is one of my absolute favorites. Especially while driving.
Johnny Williams loves him some sixth intervals, I tell you what. There's also some Tchaikovsky that sounds eerily like John Williams music. or, you know, the other way around.
Whatevs.
Are you saying John Williams is Surrogates?
I WILL NOT HAVE THAT!
My favorite is the Klingon attack fanfare (that's what I'm calling it anyway - French horns & brake drum) from Trek III showing up in Aliens when they are escaping the first encounter/fight with the aliens. It's been a while since I saw Trek III so it may not be quite copy & paste, just similar.
This just in from 2112... "I loves me some Clarb Fnarbles, but his film scores sound a whole lot like the Beatles, James Taylor, and the Eagles."
That'll be weird.
One of my fave Futurama jokes evar was a little throwaway gag where Leela finds Fry listening to gangsta rap and says "You can sit here listening to classical music all you want, but..."
Just listened to this for the first time - in preparation for the upcoming IMAX re-release next month.
Great commentary guys - lots of fun.
Last time I re-watched Raiders I remember being a little uncomfortable with its presentations of race and culture. I mean, I know, but still, I felt it had a gentle racism that I guess was inevitable given the period in which it was made. I'm not sure what to do with that - I mean clearly it's sort of a museum piece, but introducing it to people who have not seen it requires a lot of explaining.
Any thoughts?
I'm not really sure it's about when it's set - I mean, it would be possible to make a film set in the 30s without that. What bothers me about it is that all of the non-white characters are either punchlines to a joke or painful stereotypes. Yes, Temple is worse. But everyone, from the comical Nepalese, the naive Indians, the comically jovial or bungling Arabs etc etc are shamefully shallow. The Germans are, of course, all scheming villains, but I can forgive that.
It may be more disappointment on his part. After all, the difference between a story set in a time period and a movie MADE back then is you can look back and have some fun with it. Either go all Blazing Saddles, or play up the racism to get the point across. I'd love, for example, to see a Buck Rodgers show that had the original evil Mongol Chinese going after white women. The original League of Extraordinary Gentlemen went that way, with the horrible movie changing the bad guy into iirc some German.
Captain Katanga was a black guy, and he was one of the smartest people in Raiders. And there's nothing wrong with the depiction of the Arabs. I think you're way over-thinking the subject.
Excessive concern about the depiction of race and gender in movies will only lead to every villain being played by a white Englishman.
With a good bulk of the movie taking place in Egypt, you're gonna have a bunch of Egyptian bad guys. Indy with a horde of Egyptian henchmen would be a bit silly now, wouldn't it?
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