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How do we feel?

*Cue post from someone about how none of it matters because the Oscars are irrelevant and the Academy is out of touch and also Nolan got snubbed for Best Director so fuck those guys*

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I actually like that they're nominating animated films for Best Picture. The whole reason that the Best Animated category was created was to keep those films out of contention in the big category, which makes very little sense. It's like when people claim that animation is a genre, when it clearly isn't. Animation is a medium through which films can be made in lots of genres. So, I like that they're acknowledging that Toy Story 3 is just as good as the Best Picture nominees, and not just as good as the other animated films. Really, they should change that category to "Best Achievement in Animation". It would be much more relevant.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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And Brian explains it better than me. Thanks smile And why is Toy Story 3 nominated for 'Best Adapted Screenplay?'

A bit surprised that Scott Pilgrim got fuck-all.

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Indeed.

I see Kevin Smith is trying everything to get folk to see Red State. On his twitter he said 'Y'know how you express your rage that Nolan didn't get a Best Director nod for INCEPTION? You see RED' then there's a link to his Red State tour. What a guy.

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Kevin Smith has been pissing me off lately.

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Me too. Since he started smoking pot more often he has become less funny and more of a cunt. Scott Mosier is by far the funniest in the Smodcasts they do, Smith just shouts and laughs at his own jokes.

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Yeah, his whole stunt at Sundance was a kernel of a good idea wrapped in a huge ball of douchebag.  I respect him literally going all in with the rest of his career, but to invite acquisition folks he's known for 15 years under false pretenses, then insult them publicly to their face, and then rant incoherently about your half brained scheme...wow.  Whatta guy.

Eddie Doty

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Let's not confuse directing with screenwriting, though. While yes they are functionally the same in terms of telling the story, for the sake of an award they are necessarily, if arbitrarily, partitioned.

I like INCEPTION quite a lot and I think it shows Christopher Nolan to be a strong director, but not the best director of the year -- nor is the film really a Best Picture candidate. I don't think it's actually that convoluted, although it does have a lot of setup for imaginative possibilities that aren't ultimately paid off.

Oh, and Kevin Smith sucks now. He used to be pretty cool -- at the 10th Anniversary of CLERKS he was totally affable and approachable, I even got to chat with him one on one for a while -- but he's got this personality disorder where the more success he gets the more insecure and neurotic he becomes. I loved a lot of his early stuff but I really just can't stand him anymore.

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I enjoy Inception quite a bit for its creativity, if not its overall coherence.  I'm not too miffed he missed Best Director, but I'm happy with the Best Picture Nom.  It won't win a whole lot Oscar night, but it was certainly a movie I enjoy. 

As for Kev, Chasing Amy was a hugely influential movie on me, in terms of how to balance tone and nail a not-so-happy ending that's still satisfying.  These days, Smith is so insular in his echo chamber of fanboys its just depressing to watch.  I saw him speak at the DGA in 2000 and he was so warm and affable it was refreshing.  But the success of his speaking engagements created this cult of personality that he's never quite been able to escape from.

Eddie Doty

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I'm simplifying a bit here, but I think it's because studios are continuing to focus more and more on big-budget spectacles designed to make a lot of money back.    The Transformers movies make tons of money, but very few people would call them "good", except maybe the guys in Accounting.

Some movies manage to be both crowd-pleasing spectacles AND good, I'd put the Potter series on that list myself.    And Chris Nolan manages to bridge that gap - although even he would never have gotten to make a movie as complicated and marketing-unfriendly as Inception if he hadn't broken the bank with a couple of Batman movies first.     Batman was the reason those movies got made, Nolan was the reason they were more than just Batman movies.

Social Network I suspect got the greenlight because "kids like that Face Book, right?"  But Fincher and Sorkin ended up making a fascinating character study that the kids didn't actually go see.    So that one got through because it seemed like a moneymaker, and - unfortunately for the Accounting department - turned out to just be a good flick.

William Goldman has described the Oscars - I'm paraphrasing - as the day each year when Hollywood gets all dressed up and tries to tell themselves they still make worthwhile movies and not just pandering crap.   So when it comes time to vote for Best Picture, it's less likely than it used to be that the Best Picture was also the biggest moneymaker, because that's become two very different kinds of movies.

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Or Hurt Locker was a marginally better film.

Eddie Doty

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Well, the Best Picture category sometimes gets clogged with what - quoting Goldman again - can be called "medicinal movies".   Basically they're movies that are deemed Good For You because They Say Important Things That Need To Be Said, and thus make Hollywood All Relevant and Stuff.

Crash being the most recent egregious example - You're Right, Movie - Racism Is Bad!   Have an Oscar.   Gandhi was an important person, why yes he was.  Thank you movie for reminding us, have an Oscar!

Hurt Locker clearly got a We Support The Troops bump, whether or not that's what put it on top of Avatar The Mere Blockbuster we'll never know.

Another Goldman category is "A Famous Movie Actor Directed It, Isn't That Awesome", which accounts for Ordinary People and Dances With Wolves and Braveheart.  (That last one had to be close, but I guess Braveheart beat Apollo 13 because Ron Howard wasn't as famous as Mel.)

Annie Hall vs Star Wars, well, I still have a hard time feeling bad about that because that's about as apples-and-oranges as you can get.  They're both classic movies, but only one could win and one did.

Of course there are some years you just can't figure out at all.   Shakespeare in Love over Private Ryan?   And Silence of the Lambs???   I love that it won, but how the hell does THAT happen?    Some years it's just the way the final five stack up against each other.   

But however it happened, I'm glad Return of the King got the Oscar, because it's a goddam masterpiece.  If David Lean had been a fantasy-prone guy, he'd have made movies like that, and probably gotten an Oscar for them too.   Unless somebody made a Very Important Movie about Returning Library Books that year.

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The Oscars are the very definition of a popularity contest, and a popularity contest among people who are generally undereducated about everything except their craft, who are self-important and frequently told they are brilliant, and who are largely very happy with the way their lives turned out and are isolated from those who are not.

Those vectors do not intersect at dark, tragic, and difficult-to-digest OR at lighthearted laughs OR at fantastical adventure. They won't love depressing stories; they won't vote for comedies; and they won't understand nerd flicks.

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The Razzie nominations got posted a couple of days ago as well. I expect Last Airbender to run away with everything it's been nominated for.

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