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The Necromongers have two competing, directly contradictory motivations:

1) "To kill or convert every being in the galaxy."
2) To get to a specific region of space so they can cross over into another region of space, presumably disappearing from the space that the action has been taking place in up until that point.

One is threatening, the other is not. Either they're space-Evangelicals trying to put their Ten Commandments on my lawn or they're space-Jews wandering through the galactic desert, minding their own business.

Ultimately, it's a problem of motivation. You could have ditched their need to get to the Spatial Nether Region and just made them religious Borg. Or you could have kept it and justified their pillaging pit stops any number of ways: they need to resupply and restaff their slave ranks, they need to gather as many converts as possible to make the Spatial Nether Region Negative Space Wedgie Transfer work, they need to be stopped before they get to the Nether Region because once they do, they'll come back with super powers and THEN kill or convert everybody in the galaxy. But the movie doesn't settle on any of these, so there are bits and pieces of each, none of which are guaranteed to make sense if you applied them to a random section of the movie.

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Not just that, but wasn't this supposed to be the first in some kind of trilogy or something? They still talk about making another one. At the end of the flick he is now in control of the most powerful army in the universe. Assuming the next movie isn't about the sudden arrival of some interdimensional space demons he has to fight with his new army, where do you go from the end of this movie?

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Yeah, because continuity from one film to the next really seems to be a big concern for them.

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God loves you!

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So, Matt, what's Riddick about?

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This must be how Rodney Dangerfield felt all that time.

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Matt...I fucking love you right now.

ZangrethorDigital.ca

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Is it another of those "animal things"...?

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Hooray! Finally an argument that I didn't start and have no opinion on!

/Tell them Zarban's dead.  He died on that planet.

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wow, I arrived a bit too late for this one...  Saw Riddick at the theaters and left feeling very "meh" about it.  Don't really care either way.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Damn, you're smooth.

I bet you have a rich flavor and contain very low tar.

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The biggest issue I had with CoR was trying to pack too much into too little, a similar feeling to watching Scott Pilgrim. There were too many disparate threads being tied together to build the mythological structure for the universe and it just didn't gel.

This should have focused on one story line; the rescue of Jack for example, and worked towards the W40K ending as the film progressed. Necromongers are neat enough that they could have carried a story on their own if given enough time and build up.

This didn't happen, instead we're left with a bit of a mess. As a film it doesn't work - it's not telling a cohesive story, or providing a specific experience. It was like watching someone mix their meat pie of dinner with meringues of desert. Yes they end up together in your belly, but both at the same time is revolting.

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Oh, Matt, what have you done *leaves before the brawl*

I agree with Matt, for the most part, as many of the gripes I heard seemed to be answerable in the movie.


I think that the main problem with Riddick (I will not call it a perfect movie, by any definition) is that the threads were not pulled together in such a way that people could follow it in a linear fashion. Is it enjoyable and entertaining? Yes.

I enjoy the world a lot, and want to see more of it.

God loves you!

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Eddie Doty

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On a totally unrelated note, if you guys haven't seen it, you should watch "Find Me Guilty". It's not amazing or anything, but I'd say it's probably Vin's best performance and kinda proves that the guy can act.

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I think I figured out the main problem the DiF crew had-it's Vin Disel and they do not seem to react well to him. That is a problem when he is the central actor.

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We recorded Pitch Black and Riddick the same day, and in Pitch Black we went into detail on our issues with the Diesel.   So when we started Riddick, we had just talked about not being wild about the lead actor, and just continued from there.  We probably shoulda thought to recap that.  smile

So, yes.