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Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Can I ask if this is ALL about CITW, or did you move onto "other stuff each of you wanted to talk about" 1/2 way through. I've not seen the film yet and am trying to avoid finding out too much/anything about it before I do.

Jason doesn't teleport.

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Pretty much all of it is CITW. We don't go into spoilers for a few minutes, though, but generally - we recommend it. Go see it.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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For some reason, I can't download the podcast from the front page (the Intermission one) in Firefox. The download link, the awesome Mondo poster and the blurb don't show up for me. And I can't click on any other episode either. It must be a Firefox thing as it's fine on Explorer, therefor this post is pointless. big_smile

Except to say- CITW is good, go see it, Fido. Don't listen to this podcast first smile

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Jimmy, can you print-screen what it looks like to you and email that to us?

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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E-mail sent smile

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So, Trey haven't seen the Evil Dead movies?

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Teague wrote:

Pretty much all of it is CITW. We don't go into spoilers for a few minutes, though, but generally - we recommend it. Go see it.

thanx for the info, I'll put this in my "save until movie seen" folder.

Jason doesn't teleport.

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Here's a question that just occurred to me.

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In the Japanese ritual, which of the little girls was the jock, whore, fool, etc.?

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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They were all whores.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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An actual reply big_smile-

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Every country had different ways of doing the rituals to suit their own cultures. The Jock, the slut, the virgin etc is essentially an American horror movie trope smile

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Jimmy B wrote:

An actual reply big_smile-

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Every country had different ways of doing the rituals to suit their own cultures. The Jock, the slut, the virgin etc is essentially an American horror movie trope smile

Whoa.

That made so much sense that it made me appreciate the movie a little more. Especially considering--

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--that the Japanese ritual pretty clearly showed Japanese horror stereotypes, what with the ghost girl with the hair over her face and all that. That's cool.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Yup. And, yeah, I surprise even myself sometimes big_smile

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How hard is it to kill nine year olds in Japan!

"Life is about movies; anything else is a bonus!"- Me   cool

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http://www.trudang.com/images/kevin.jpg

Okay, maybe that's not Kevin... but you know one of these things was in that basement somewhere...

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Fuck-a-duck, that thing's scary http://mazeguy.net/surprised/yikes.gif

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Trey wrote:

http://www.trudang.com/images/kevin.jpg

Okay, maybe that's not Kevin... but you know one of these things was in that basement somewhere...

Yeah, that sound you just heard? That's Teague simultaneously shitting and pissing himself. smile

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I just realized, this film was just an excuse for Joss to kill everyone.

"Life is about movies; anything else is a bonus!"- Me   cool

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I am a horror fan and so is Joss Whedon. Much of Cabin in the Woods is an homage to Evil Dead of which Joss is a fan. He has been interviewed on Evil Dead claiming as to why he prefers it to the sequel. Both Buffy and Angel pay homage to many horror genres and tropes. I very much doubt Joss intended to call out horror fans for enjoying the medium. I know many horror fans and for the most part they are kind, generous, and peaceful individuals who, well, just like something a little darker. Several friends have or are currently hosting horror themed podcasts and are the kindest, most gentlemanly people I know.

The odd thing about horror is those who are not fans can't quite comprehend what we fans like about the genre. Indeed it is difficult for a horror fan to define what it is about horror that appeals to them.

I suggest watching the documentary, Nightmares in Red, White, and Blue, that details the evolution of American horror with commentary of actors, actresses, directors and the like. Special Effects artist, Tom Savini, makes several appearances. He's a Vietnam veteran that applies his experience in the war to producing some of the most realistic gore ever filmed. The best part of the documentary, though, is how it juxtaposes what those in the industry feel about horror compared to what people who don't like horror feel. Horror fans are unfairly maligned as they are thought to be sadistic when really there is something else behind the motivation, usually an attraction to more visceral cinema. A point is made in that action films are violent in a jingoistic, chauvinistic fashion and that it is perfectly okay in this case to root for the good guys no matter how many baddies they kill. Horror takes violence to the next step showing just how devastating a gun shot or a knife to the stomach can be. This is something the action genre tends to avoid unless aiming for that degree of realism.

Another companion piece for CITW is Behind the Mask: the Rise of Leslie Vernon, a faux documentary about an up and coming slasher in a world where Jason, Freddie, and Michael exist. A film crew follows Leslie as he plans for his massacre of several teenagers at a remote cabin in the woods. All the while he discusses the mythological and psychosexual meaning behind each step. He points out important tropes, even including the arrival of an obsessed psychologist that is hunting him down (played by Robert Englund). I think Leslie Vernon both honors and subverts the slasher better than CITW, though CITW bites off a much larger morsel.

In short I look at CITW as Whedon's and Goddard's string theory of horror movies. It is a system of thought to unite all horror films under the same formula. Whether it succeeds or fails is a matter of the latitude you afford it.

Also, personally, I think the cenobite should have been in the British complex as Hellraiser was originally a British film based on a British author's story. Then maybe like the movie the Americans bought the rights to it and the lament configuration.

See. Horror fan.

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Very cool post, ISOC. Glad to see you around these parts again.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Just listened to this and I learned two things- 1. this podcast needed a horror film fan (but I know Mike had to work) to talk about the film as a horror film homage and 2. Jeffery doesn't like fun. big_smile


I still enjoyed the show though. Now, talking about video games (I know this hasn't been released but I wanted to mention this) I spent the entire day last Wednesday on Youtube watching the walk-through for Arkham City. Because it's cool big_smile

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Funny Games has nothing, and I mean NOTHING, on A Serbian Film.

Eddie Doty

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Trey wrote:

http://www.trudang.com/images/kevin.jpg

Okay, maybe that's not Kevin... but you know one of these things was in that basement somewhere...

Gah, that fucking monkey...

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I was reminded of this gem when you talked about Peter Berg.

I have issues with this still from The Kingdom. Can you spot them? smile

http://ashdigital.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/thekingdom.jpeg

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