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I squint my eyes at Avengers and Batman passing both tests, but, admittedly, I don't remember them very well.
And two of the movies that pass both tests aren't even from this century.
I agree that The Grey should get a pass. It's sort of the the dude version of Gravity.
Guardians of the Galaxy seems to fall into the category of movies passed Mori without passing Bechdel. Another super hero movie... who would have thunk it?
Sadly having Guardians passing Bechdel could have been fixed just by having Gamora and Nebula talk about anything else than Ronin or Thanos.
Gamora passed the Mako Mori test but sadly Nebula does not. Her entire plot revolved around either Thanos or Ronin.
Nova Prime (Glenn Close) and Gamora speak about something that is not a man, but there conversation is more of a group conversation so I don't know if that counts.
Do Gamora and Nebula ever talk about something other than their dad? I think they do. Would've been only a line or two in their fight though.
I agree with a lot of the earlier conversation re: how the Bechdel and Mako Mori tests are good conversation starters. Because even with that info-graphic, if you're scoring movies on technicalities, the point OF the tests (how rare it is they get passed on anything BUT a technicality) is kind of being missed.
I recently went through a bit of a film renaissance of independents and smaller films released in the late 1990's and was struck by how many of them were written/directed by women and how a lot of them had multiple women in top billed roles and where the Bechdel and Mako Mori tests were passed in the first five minutes. (Drop Dead Gorgeous, Sugar and Spice, Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion.) And, as a woman, I have to say that this decrease in visibility and how it appears - and I will completely own the "appears" word because this is how I have interpreted the pushback for adding female cast members, I will completely own that I am not subject of backroom meetings and casting decisions - has really turned me off visual media.
Simple as it is, if I can't find a character that I connect with in the narrative, I check out. And I'm really tired of being forced to connect to male characters because they are the forced POV. And while I am fully capable of connecting to male characters, and have regularly in the past, I would like more options that include people of my own gender.
But, that's just my $.02.
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