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[nerd]The content on a DVD is encoded in a long-GOP format, so they literally cannot be jogged or shuttled the way I-frame-only digital video (or analog video, obviously) can be.[/nerd]

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Explain yourself with wit.

Teague Chrystie

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

[nerd]The content on a DVD is encoded in a long-GOP format, so they literally cannot be jogged or shuttled the way I-frame-only digital video (or analog video, obviously) can be.[/nerd]

Oh. Well... Then what's the deal with stamps?! Your taxes pay for the post office, then you have to buy stamps, then there's sales tax on the stamps. You pay 3 times. I hate it!

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Fucking magnets.

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Gregory Harbin wrote:

This 'family language audio track,' is this something they're doing these days?

Actually, from what I understand, this is a pretty new thing. I respect the fact that they included it.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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It's probably not a big deal. They've gotta have one for airline and network TV anyway; easy enough to drop it onto the DVD.

Besides, didn't Avatar have precisely one "shit" and one "bitch?"

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

It's probably not a big deal. They've gotta have one for airline and network TV anyway; easy enough to drop it onto the DVD.

Besides, didn't Avatar have precisely one "shit" and one "bitch?"

As I recall, there were a couple "shit"s. ("shits"?) I don't remember any "bitch"s ("bitches"?), besides a "son of a bitch".

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I think he drops a "bitch" after the not-rhino charged him during the first jungle trip. Something along the lines of, "That's right, bitch, run back to momma."

And now that I think of it, I think Trudy says "bitch" during the big fight scene, used in basically the same sense. Could be wrong, though. I'm too lazy to pull out the movie and check.

Point being, the language was *relatively* tame to begin with. Bitch.

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Something I've wondered is, say I'm talking about two instances of "shit."

Do I say "there were two 'shits'" or "there were two 'shit's"?

Also, where should my question mark have been?

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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As long as Shifty doesn't chime in, your question mark should have gone inside all the punctuation marks. As in:

"How many 'shits' could a shithead shit if a shithead could shit 'shit?'"

In UK English, the terminal punctuation mark goes outside quotation marks — excuse me, "inverted commas" — and where we usually use double marks for direct quotation and single marks for indirect quotation, they use single for direct and double for indirect.

As for where the quotation marks go, it's generally considered bad practice to pluralize words-as-words in "proper" writing; you would probably prefer to rewrite the sentence to avoid that. You could say:

There were two uses of the word "shit."

Or:

The word "shit" was used twice.

Or:

I ate so much Del Taco I had to take two shits.

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I enjoyed Avatar, but I'm holding out on picking it up until Cameron does a commentary, which he's pretty good about doing.

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I just hope he doesn't do it with one person's voice on one channel and one voice on the other.  Very bad for hearing impaired folk w/headphones.

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switch wrote:

I just hope he doesn't do it with one person's voice on one channel and one voice on the other.  Very bad for hearing impaired folk w/headphones.

*cough*DIF*cough*

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Okay, we get the hint, we'll stop doing that fifty episodes ago.

Teague Chrystie

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TIME TRAVELER! GET HIM! I am going to have been about to fear the future.

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

As long as Shifty doesn't chime in, your question mark should have gone inside all the punctuation marks. As in:

"How many 'shits' could a shithead shit if a shithead could shit 'shit?'"

Question marks and exclamation points stay attached to the question or exclamation.

Teague asked, "Did he just say 'shit'?"

Was his response, "I'm going to the store"?

They all said "yes"!

My Penis played "Keep Your Hands to Yourself"?!

However, in linguistic writing, words-as-words are more usually put in italics rather than quotes.

Last, apostrophes never form plurals.*

I heard two shits. Learn your ABCs. Watch your Ps and Qs. Cross your Ts and dot your Is.


* Anymore. That was common 20 to 30 years ago, along with indented paragraphs.

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

As long as Shifty doesn't chime in

Who, me? Nah, I'm Scottish, no point in looking to me for proper use of punctuation big_smile

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

"How many 'shits' could a shithead shit if a shithead could shit 'shit?'"

In UK English, the terminal punctuation mark goes outside quotation marks — excuse me, "inverted commas" — and where we usually use double marks for direct quotation and single marks for indirect quotation, they use single for direct and double for indirect.

Actually, it's the other way around. And the placement of ending punctuation depends entirely on the sentence. So:

"You two characters are going to Top Gun."
- Placement of full stop/period is inside because the entire sentence is direct speech.

He then says to them "You two characters are going to Top Gun".
- Placement of full stop/period is outside because the direct speech part is only a clause of the sentence.

The same is true for brackets too. If the whole sentence is in brackets then the full stop goes inside the ), but if the bracketed clause is only a part of the sentence then the full stop goes outside the ).

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Jim Cameron on Sam Worthington's accent:

"I think he would've gotten an Academy Award nomination if everyone knew that he wasn't American."

http://www.collider.com/2010/11/02/jame … 0/?_r=true (Part One, about 29:50)

So, to answer your question, yes, James Cameron thinks that Avatar is a totally solid movie. If he really thinks that Sam Worthington's accent was that fantastic, then he must think very highly of the film itself.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Feature film director likes his own movie. Film at fucking eleven.

I'm pretty weary of the whole "Can't he see that because I didn't like it this is total crap!?" meme.

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I'm pretty sure Sam Worthington did the same accent for Terminator Salvation and didn't get nominated for that either.  That said, I think he does a fine job in Avatar.

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With the accent or with the acting in general? Because there wasn't a moment in the film where I cared if he lived or died. He was an absolute blank.

That shouldn't be any surprise. Cameron writes women much better than he writes men. Kyle Reese, Corporal Hicks, Abyss's Bud, T2's John, Titanic's Jack... these characters have nothing distinguishing about them. Try Mr. Plinkett's character test: describe them without saying what they wear or what their job is. We like them--if we like them--only because the actors have chops.

Worthington doesn't have chops.

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I didn't care about him either, but not because Worthington wasn't a good actor. His character was a 'dumb guy' - my term for an everyman - which is fine but unlike Charlie Sheen in Platoon or Sylvester Stallone in Rocky, he was morally kind of a douchebag (first he jumps at the chance to help fuck over the blue people) and easily manipulated (then he goes native).

And btw i'm kind of sick of strong female characters as... a thing. It was a welcome change in Alien and The Terminator but that was 30yrs ago. When i read about praise for James Cameron's strong women (i'm not talking about the posts here, and i'm not trying to diss the guy) i think that it's because he can't think of a new gimmick. How about a really well written movie, aimed at an intelligent audience about a spaceship crew where men and women work together like a team of smart, well-oiled professionals. Wait, that didn't come out right...

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But who is it a "thing" with? Do you mean reviewers? You say that for Cameron it's a gimmick, but look at the countless others who can only write for male leads. Would you call that a gimmick for them?

What I don't understand is how anyone can make The Town or National Treasure or Star Trek or Transformers or the Batman films or any of the Marvel movies and not have them full of strong women, but they do. In fact, in a lot of genre films, it would be trivial to write the female lead completely out of the story.

I hate Avatar, but at least it gave Zoe Saldana something more to do than run a switchboard and nuzzle Emo Spock.

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I gotta say, I just watched Avatar again last night -- still works for me.  Sure the story's simple, but there are still moments there where I feel something for what's happening.  I'm really looking forward to seeing the longer cut, because long as the theatrical cut is, I see plenty of spots where the film could stand to take it's time more, or go deeper and explore what's happening.  I think it's a credit to his craft that although Cameron tends to make long films, in the case of his other longer Director's Cuts, Abyss and Aliens, I will always choose that longer cut to watch, and they always hold my attention.