I thought this was a pretty good commentary.

Also, when he's drowning her in the tub, I don't think he actually kills her. What I think is happening is this: It's established that subconsciously she can access her powers, but can't use the consciously because she has denied them for so long. What Constantine is doing is forcing her to use them to a degree that forces her to be aware of them again, such as forcing her to travel to hell. When you're drowning, your mind panics and will do anything to get you out of that situation, and when it realizes Constantine isn't going to let her up, and she can't force him to, it takes another route to escape, namely by crossing over to hell.

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Jie-mon Hahn-soo is how Francis Lawrence pronounces the name in the official commentary, and I figger he oughta know, so I'm sticking by it.

And I often misunderstand what Fig says, so these things often go unresolved.

Like I said in the recording, we should have just ended there.  G'night everybody!

I imagine that line is a shoo-in for Ryan's DIF: Year Two compilation reel...

I enjoyed this commentary guys, it was great.  I remember not being thrilled by this movie when I first saw it, however, watching it with you guys I have a new appreciation for it and now desire to purchase it.

I surprised you never when into describing Constantine as an antihero.  I thought he would be an example of the quintessential antihero, being a so unlikable and nontraditional good guy.

Well, Trey pronounced it the same way I've heard it pronounced in interviews and talking head shows. So unless everyone is wrong except you, I think he said it just fine.

I watched Constantine for the first time in a couple of years (saw it in the cinema then on dvd) to prepare for the commentary and I must say, Shia didn't annoy me this time. I must be used to him by now in other things. His character in i Robot still bugs me,though (saw it on tv a few weeks ago) totally pointless. At least Chas helped.

Great commentary by the way, fellas

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And the director of Constantine (and Djimon's IMDB page fwiw) say it's JIE-mon. 

I'm still betting the director of the movie knows how the man's name is pronounced.

I wonder if, now that I've seen the film, its another case where I like it because I'm not too familiar with the books. I have the first collection but am more familiar with Sandman, which sort of shared this universe. There's definitely a case to be made that movies should be judged on their own with no regard to how they compare to the source material... although I'll continue to ignore things like From Hell because they seem to have missed the entire #$%&ing point of that book

I like Constantine - but always thought it was due to my own personal peripheral involvement with the f/x in it that made me biased, coz I never before met anyone that actually did (excepth my Niece, in her über-goth-phase).

However, I have to differ with Trey on the Keanu performance. Frankly, this is what almost breaks it for me. Even though I see the good movie that is there, and watch it for that, Keanu's woodenness takes me out of it completely at certain places.

But looking past that..... which is doable, yet hard.... I like it a lot.

/Z

Go onnnnnn...

Anyway, great to have you on the forums, Zap!

Pft! Arc-angel!

I agree with those guys. The fun's back, y'all. Good show.

I had one of those weird experiences with this movie. I saw it once years back, probably on cable, and didn't really care that much for it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't get it, either. Like for example — and I'm not at all proud to admit this — I totally didn't get the whole twins thing until a good two thirds of the way through the movie. And when you guys announced that this one was coming, I was pretty meh. But I didn't have anything good at the top of my Netflix queue, so I figured what the heck.

I watched it last night — sans commentary — and wow, I really dug it! It's not the best movie ever or anything, but it's really very good.

It's a rare movie that overestimates the intelligence of its audience.

And just for the record? Ever since that one shot of her walking toward camera in that veil, Rachel Weisz has been my girlfriend. So back off. I seen 'er first.

(Master Zap, huh? Small damn world.)