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If you look at a clip from any Morris Documentary from about the late 80's onward, that's been his style.  He and his editors are very precise when they cut to a half jump or to black.  It's not random at all.

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Finally had a little bit of time to look at my backlog of stuff to watch.

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Didn't know anything about this before watching. Friends just kept recommending it to me (I was a bit reluctant, as they often recommend crap), and I had a blast with it. May have been my sleep deprived brain, but I thought it was well made and a lot of fun :P

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MadBadCoyote wrote:

Finally had a little bit of time to look at my backlog of stuff to watch.

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Didn't know anything about this before watching. Friends just kept recommending it to me (I was a bit reluctant, as they often recommend crap), and I had a blast with it. May have been my sleep deprived brain, but I thought it was well made and a lot of fun tongue

I've actually had that one recommended to me alot too,  the Phil Lord and Chris Miller attachment is a huge boost though. It's been on my list for a bit now, I'll have to check it out eventually.

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It was my favorite comedy of 2012.  Whip smart and playful as all hell.  Outside of Enter The Void, it had the best, "I'm ON DRUGS," moment of any film.

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I saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier and had about the same reaction as Skepton. I liked it, but it seemed to tumble from one plot point to the next. I think a better director would have made better use of the various reveals; it had some good stuff in it. The central idea of Cap struggling with what SHIELD is was a good one.

And Robert Redford's corpse did a good job.

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Just saw The Raid 2. Just as awful as the first one, and somehow more boring as well. A half hour in I was like, "I get it, he can punch really good and he's awesome because of how much he punches." After that, it turns into a carbon-copy of The Godfather inexplicably, right down to a character who's basically just Sonny without a conscience. Oh, and it keeps up with the punching. None of the fights are the least bit inventive or interesting to watch. I was pretty close to just walking out near the end because I was so sick of it.

But I think the first one's a piece of shit too, so what do I know.

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You're out of your mind if you think The Raid 1 is a piece of shit. But I get the vibe you don't like Martial Arts as a genre (if your complaint is that there's a lot of punching), so I can see where you're coming from.

The Raid 2 is a mixed bag. It tries to be this epic canvas undercover crime story, which works really well for about an hour, then it throws out and abandons all that setup for a poorly justified series of action sequences that render the setup a complete waste of time.

The action sequences are next level amazing though. If you think this stuff is boring or uninteresting, I don't know what to tell you (except that, again, you're out of your mind). The camera compositions, editing, the way he builds up to an encounter and then just unleashes a relentless hail of action, the way the sequences build and flow as they reach their conclusion (the final fight has like 5-acts to it).

You can (and I do) knock the movie for sloppy storytelling that hurts the structure, but from a film-making craftsmanship level, it's outstanding.

I'd love to fan-edit this movie and lose about 30 min. I do have to agree in the end though that it's a misguided piece of over-ambition. There's so much plot that ends up going no-where by the 3rd act, all at the expense of time that could be spent making us care about our protagonist. It bothers me that there's practically 0 personal stakes between him and the 3 main opponents he fights at the end.

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What's beyond debate in my opinion is that every big-budget action director in Hollywood needs to be forced to watch Raid 2 and learn how to shoot action scenes properly.

Also, the crazy shot you talked about is even crazier than you think. There's a camera operator inside the 2nd car disguised as a car seat, and the shot involves about 2 different hand-offs, with 1 of the dps lying down next to the underside of the moving car. You can see them doing the shot here at 1:50 :

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Couldn't disagree more. At least the fight scenes in the first one had a fluidity to them. Everything in The Raid 2 that isn't shot shaky handheld-style puts on a faux-Kubrick symmetry that makes it look "important" or "meaningful" without actually saying anything. Every cinematic element in these films is used for IMPACT and that's pretty much it. The first one is just barely more competent, if only because the camera movement feels deliberate and graceful.

I'm fine with martial arts as a genre. My complaint isn't so much "there's a lot of punching" as it is "there's nothing but punching, and all the punching is identical, and oh god I get it already please do something different."

Also lol at the suggestion that characters named "Hammer Girl" and "Bat Boy," whose names pretty much cover the extent of their personalities, are in any way developed or fleshed out. I sure WISH they were, though. They seemed a hell of a lot more interesting than Boring Invincible Protagonist Who Just Wants To Keep His Family Safe.

More than anything, though, these films are soulless, and I really can't get behind that. The violence is meaningless, and without consequence since every receiver of a punch/kick is a "bad guy" and our Boring Invincible Protagonist can get his fucking leg tendons sliced and still kick the shit out of the remaining bad guys.

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First off, let me agree with you completely on the "soulless" complaint. I'm not very happy with the level of violence involved, and it does bother me, so I want you to know I'm right there with you on that. For as good as I think these 2 movies are technically, it ain't a patch on a REAL action classic like Die Hard or Terminator 1/2.

That being said, it's incredibly disingenuous to just call this "shaky-cam". Clear geography throughout, LOTS of master shots, and ever-so-often it drops to slo-mo for impact (the falling into mud shot, when the knives come out in the final fight and change the whole dynamic). That's not even getting into the more creative camera moves, like the shot going up and over the toilet-stal in the opening fight sequence, the overhead shot of the fight in the car, or the awesome 1-take bit I pointed out above. They use hand-held a lot, yes, but they do it right, keeping all the action in-frame, and cutting at just the right moments to maintain flow and clarity.

Also, having opponents defined by their fighting styles and/or weapons is a common element of martial arts films, so that doesn't bother me at all. It also leads to my favorite fight of the movie, so totally justified in my book.

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That's funny, because "demo reel" is exactly how I'd describe both Raid movies, especially the second one. At least CGI porn generally has a sense of humor and/or humanity. If you enjoy them, I don't want to take that away from you. But I think that this niche audience can spring for better.

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The level of casual brutality does bother me a lot though. It's not the sarcastic "fun" ultraviolence of a Verhoeven movie or Kill Bill, it's playing everything dead serious, but getting extremely detailed with people's heads getting caved in, people getting carved up, mutilated, burned, etc.

John Woo's HK flicks were really violent too, but they go for a certain operatic over-the-top approach that works, where the violence feels in service of the heightened story of the characters. These Raid movies feel like they want to play in a "gritty" Paul Greengrassy universe, but then within that tone they still push the brutality up at 11.

Especially in this sequel, Rama is flat out a psychopathic killing machine, but the movie seems to think this is alright and doesn't really acknowledge it. Why am I rooting for this guy? In the 1st movie it works because he's established as kind of the nice-guy cop in a bad spot, so you want to see him make it out alive.
In this, he's deliberately putting himself in these situations for reasons that are not very well established, and going out of his way to murder people in extremely horrific ways, and the story just moves along like it's just another action scene.

And at the end of the day, it does all feel very pointless and hollow, and at 2.5 hours it really wears you down.

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The Book Of Eli (2010) - 7/10

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Had considered watching this one for a long time but never got around to it for some reason. Finally I watched it since it was directed by the guys who made "From Hell" which I found very interesting and well-told.

This one is also a bit of a gem in many aspects. Primarily I was struck just how well each scene works on their own. Very well-directed, well-acted, there's a apprehensive tension to everything (this being the trust-no-one people-eating-other-people post-apocalypse).

The movie is dead set on creating atmosphere, including a non-spoken 9-ish minutes at the beginning. Music is very fitting throughout, somehow blending into the world and feeling very organic to my ears.
Denzel is fantastic, and the world-building in general also sells his character completely. Mila Kunis is also very good with some genuinely touching scenes. Gary Oldman is also delivering.

Overall, this is just very competently made. What it may be lacking in plot intricacy (the movie being mainly just one throughline with few offshoot subplots) it makes up for in tone, atmosphere and authenticity.

Religious motifs throughout, but it's just as much about the way religion, or information in general, is used for power and control as it is more straightfoward themes of faith, etc.

If you like well-directed, gripping scenes that allow actors to deliver performances, this one probably won't disappoint. The Hughes Brothers are already in the "i'll probably blindly see anything they make" category for me just based on how well they direct scenes and actors and create believable, yet cinematically immersive worlds.

Very recommended.

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This week I've watched a bunch of films!

War Of The Worlds (2005)

Really an interesting film. Lovely visuals, a grim and dark tone, I'm a fan of the story to begin with and it's interesting to see how they've modernised the time period for the film  but it does have it's problems.

I think the major thing that urks me is the ending. Not the fact that the aliens die due to the common cold, but due to the main character's son survives. Not only that but somehow managed to beat the main character to the house. It loses all dramatic weight and just generally feels cheap. I didn't have too much of a problem with Dakota Fanning though she could be a bit shrill and she feels like a prop that has to be dragged around at times.

My other issue is with the aliens themselves and their design. After spending so much time with the tripods, seeing the aliens and their rather generic design feels disappointing. They don't particularly look that scary. Hell, the camera probe has a more intense scene than they do. I would of cut the scene where the aliens are in the basement, making the only reveal of the aliens is at the very end of the film. The scene where the tripod 'vomits' out the alien. Even then, I feel that they should have it so that you see maybe only a hand flop out. Not the moment where it shrieks at a man with a gun then appears to fossilize. It still gives the mystery of the aliens and their ulterior motives behind conquering earth.

The film got me listening to Jeff Wayne's Music Version of War Of The Worlds so theres that! Haha.

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The other film that I was saw was the animated film, Perfect Blue (1997)

If you fancy a psychological thriller then this is one that definitely likes to play with your head. It's hard to talk about the plot because you don't want to spoil anything. Perfect Blue is definitely one of those movies that takes you on a ride that has you guessing what is real. I suppose the latest film that is like it to compare to (that I can remember) is Black Swan (2010)

What I can tell you is that the basic premise follows Mima, lead singer of a Japanese idol band called "CHAM!". She decides to leave to follow a career as an actress, from there the film follows her on her first acting project. Some of her fans don't seem happy about it.. and neither does she?

So there is your hook!

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Just got back from "God's Not Dead." Very good movie, though a bit of an emotional roller coaster (happy tears and sad tears). I know that many will just think it is a Christian propaganda movie, but it is a very character driven movie, and all the actors do a great job.

If I were to fault the movie at all, is that there were too many characters. I liken it a bit to "Love, Actually,"where there are multiple character stories revolving around some central events. However, some characters don't get as much development as I would like.

Still enjoyable, and a bit emotional in many parts, but enjoyable. I haven't cried at a movie in a while and it was a rather nice experience.

God loves you!

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Unbreakable (2000) - 7/10

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This movie is pretty darn great. The plotting and structure is really scaled down and slow-moving. However so many other interesting aspects are at play here, including great cinematography (this movie on Bluray looks fantasticly cinematic with filmgrain, shot anamorphically leading to some soft shots, with great contrast and colors) and spectacular sound mixing and sound design which excels at providing atmosphere and bridging some scenes with others (a great example is early on in the hospital where Willis walks out and we only hear distant echoing footsteps, the rest of the sound being comprised of almost Lynchian atmospheric ambience.

The Sixth Sense and this movie both showcase Shyamalan as a great filmmaker in my opinion. His later films both have much worse writing, performed by the wrong actors, and without the more esoteric ambiance and uniquely artistic touches that add an extra layer of interesting texture to the film. Most scenes in Unbreakable are quite simply setup and executed, but the sound work and cinematographic touches just captures my interest. They take it one step beyond just a banal everyday situation of, for example, two people talking, and wraps them in an otherworldly aura.

The plotting in this one might become a bit stilted at times, but that's a small niggle, as an emotional experience and an example of the craft of film-making this is awesome. Willis and Penn are great, so is the kid and Sam Jackson. Great score by James Newton Howard.




12 Years A Slave (2013)  - 9/10

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Very recommended. I haven't seen too many exampels in the past of media depicting slavery (only Django being fairly recent but coming from a very different angle), but if you have I can see this being perhaps one too many for some people.
This movie excels at one thing, and that is what it seems to set out to do: Create a pervasive feeling of dredd. The story is of a free black man who is essentially kidnapped into slavery. The contrast of going from a normal life into one of absolute despair and hopelessness makes this immediately accessible to anyone, this didn't need to be a period movie for it to work just as well.

Taking place over 12 years, this places almost no focus on tracking the time. Its one goal is to convey to the audience the realities of living as a slave.
Have you ever had that situation in life where something is just making you really anxious to the point of having a lump in your throat, and you try to sit down and eat something and pretend like nothing is wrong, yet just the act of forcing food down your throat seems almost an impossibility?
That's the feeling I got more or less throughout. It lacks melodrama for the most part, only some points allow for Hans Zimmers score to really guide you. It is also quite matter of fact and doesn't really caricature any character, good or bad. Which makes it even horrible since that leads you to realize that some people who owned and abused slaves weren't necessarily bad people, they were simply conditioned to see the slaves as nothing more than cattle. To me that seems even more horrifying than having evil be personified as a moustache-twirling villain.

Some remarkable and earnest performances in this, again rarely dropping into melodrama.
Michael Fassbender is AMAZING. Truly one of the most powerful performances this year, including a 4-ish minute single take scene which is probably the best single scene I've seen all year. Horrifying aswell.

Most time jumps are fairly isolated and with little connective tissue, but as a matter-of-fact presentation of one man and his experiences, this works so well. The fact that it doesn't try to tell you what to feel most of the time allows room for you to actively think about what is happening as it is happening.

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Jane Eyre - 7 / 10

This is not a bad movie, but I fall in the camp that thinks Fukunaga/Buffini didn't do enough to make this adaptation worthwhile. It is a very pretty film. The landscape looks suitably cold and bleak. They even managed to make Mia Wasikowska into a convincing Jane. The beginning is strong; a cold open with Jane dragging herself across the moors in the pouring rain before she is saved just in time by kindly strangers. But the time Jane spends at Thornfield Hall is really kinda dull. It's supposed to be an intense, suspenseful, Gothic romance, and I found it to be lacking in tension, little worth calling suspense, and a half-hearted romance. It picks up again once we hit the third act, but it's such a shame that what should be the best part is so damned boring.

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I watched FROZEN. I liked it but the machinations are ridiculous. Things happen because they do. Every character makes terrible decisions until they don't.

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Zarban wrote:

I watched FROZEN. I liked it but the machinations are ridiculous. Things happen because they do. Every character makes terrible decisions until they don't.

You know, it's funny, but I kind of felt the same way. I hadn't seen the movie, except bits and pieces, until recently and was trying to figure out what bugged me about the movie.

I think you are right about that, and I think the pacing is a little off, and motivations are unclear or not explained and just happen.

However, it is still one of the better messages I've seen from a Disney princess movie, and the music is so catchy so it is definitely enjoyable. But, little things just nag at me about it. Glad someone else felt the same way.

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An animated feature from the people who brought us Ice Age (Carlos Saldanha and Blue Sky Studios). Rio is a nice little story, but it didn't exactly blow my mind. The human couple looks very much like Flint and Sam from Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs (it's almost hard to believe it was made by a different company).

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But pity the warrior who slays all his foes...

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Just got back from "God's Not Dead." Very good movie, though a bit of an emotional roller coaster (happy tears and sad tears). I know that many will just think it is a Christian propaganda movie, but it is a very character driven movie, and all the actors do a great job.

If I were to fault the movie at all, is that there were too many characters. I liken it a bit to "Love, Actually,"where there are multiple character stories revolving around some central events. However, some characters don't get as much development as I would like.

Still enjoyable, and a bit emotional in many parts, but enjoyable. I haven't cried at a movie in a while and it was a rather nice experience.

To me most of the characters were too 1-dimensional/cookie-cutter, and a lot of it was very unrealistic, so that brought it down. But it did succeed in generating emotion, and Sorbo really brought it.

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Sam F wrote:
fireproof78 wrote:

Just got back from "God's Not Dead." Very good movie, though a bit of an emotional roller coaster (happy tears and sad tears). I know that many will just think it is a Christian propaganda movie, but it is a very character driven movie, and all the actors do a great job.

If I were to fault the movie at all, is that there were too many characters. I liken it a bit to "Love, Actually,"where there are multiple character stories revolving around some central events. However, some characters don't get as much development as I would like.

Still enjoyable, and a bit emotional in many parts, but enjoyable. I haven't cried at a movie in a while and it was a rather nice experience.

To me most of the characters were too 1-dimensional/cookie-cutter, and a lot of it was very unrealistic, so that brought it down. But it did succeed in generating emotion, and Sorbo really brought it.

That was the "too many characters and stories" part that I mentioned. Some of the characters were good, Sorbo, as you mentioned, as well as the pastor and Josh. Some of the others were, as you said, more caricatures, but, had a bit of an everyman feel to it. So it is a mixed bag, depending on how you respond to the characters. Personally, I thought Amy, the blogger, and her reaction to her diagnosis was one of the better one's that I have seen in film.

Again, your mileage will vary. smile

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I haven't seen God's Not Dead, but I laughed my ass off at the trailer several times so I'm looking forward to it.

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Desolation of Smaug.
5-6/10.

I'm one of the people that were able to separate An Unexpected Journey from LOTR and enjoy it as a separate thing, based on a short, but enjoyable childrens book. I took it for what it was, and gave it a lot of leeway in terms of impervious hobbits, horribly made CG orcs, and even the out-of-place necromancer. I even managed to not cringe at the "TO BE CONTINUED" shot of Smaug that didn't make any sort of sense, continuity-wise.

HOWEVER.

People all over told me the second film, The Desolation of Smaug was an improvement on everything, and a much better film in general.

Where, exactly, is that so?

Where do I even begin?

Gah.
I was looking forward to watching it. Blu-Ray, 5.1 surround, 50 inches of glorious viewing, dim lights, popcorn, the whole damn shebang!
But then the film happened, and I found myself being angry most of the time. And I don't mean with the movie, I was just downright ANGRY. As in I wanted to punch something.
I'll admit that most of what happened in the film has burrowed itself deep inside me, and I hope I don't have to remember any of it, but I'll try and pinpoint what I thought was wrong with it.

Now, keep in mind that it's been a week, and I've suppressed most of it, so the actual beat of the film, and the order of the scenes is completely scrambled, but here we go.

Martin Freeman as Bilbo works for me, but also not. He's a much more light-hearted character than in LOTR, and while this obviously is a younger, more frivolous character, he's a tad too accepting in the tasks he's given. In the first film, he thinks long and hard, as a hobbit should, on whether or not he should partake in the journey, but in the second film, he's suddenly very okay with facing a dragon, and not at all like he was in the first. While this is basic character progression, he's a different man entirely too fast, and as far as I'm concerned, his arc is already over, leaving me riddled as to what will happen in the third film/act.

There are too. many. goddamned. characters.
Sure, in the first film, we suddenly had Elrond, Saruman and Galadriel introduced to us, but as watchers of LOTR, we already knew who these were, and had no issue remembering their names, as opposed to the too many dwarves already. Now, before you go on saying anything related to the amount of dwarves, I've read the book, and tried to keep up, but I never remember who's who, and I'm already okay with this. I'll just accept that. But then there's Radagast. Obviously, being a huge Doctor Who fan, I'm well aware of Sylvester McCoy, so this, again wasn't an issue.
But then he returned for the second film, if only for a short while, while Gandalf was off somewhere to do something dangerous. IIRC, this material is all Silmarillion stuff, and I'll allow it, if only for movie-making purposes, but it's also misplaced in an otherwise ridiculous kids-movie. Radagast isn't the issue, however. The wolf/bear-animorph, Bard, Legolas and Legolina, Thranduil, Stephen Fry and his Squire, as well as The Necromancer, Smaug, and FUCKING SAURON, on the other hand, is.

If you're gonna continuously add in characters that are seemingly of importance, make me remember them. I don't remember the names of half these characters, and I don't care for less of them.

Having played some LOTR games, I knew that there was something called black arrows, but these were available as power-ups for men of Dale, and were shot from standard bows, so I had no idea that they were basically meant for Ballistae.
Fuck it, I'll allow it, but only because someone out there is more fluent in Tolkien-lore than I am, and it's probably how it actually is.


BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INFINITE ZOOM OF SAURONS EYE FIGHTING GANDALF YOU FUCKING LOST ME, JACKSON!

*sigh*
And don't even get me started on the two GoPro shots.

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