Topic: #45 - Unpopular Opinions

How about you?

Here's Patton Oswalt on Jerry Maguire.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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The talk about Chasing Amy makes me want either a full on Kevin Smith Intermission or a commentary on one of the movies.

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My biggest one with all of my film friends is my universal distaste for all things PTA. I can take Magnolia up to a point, but I have not liked a single other film of his. I find myself so BORED with them, and that is the worst offense a movie can make for me. There Will Be Blood is right up there with Mulholland Drive as one of the most mind-numbing experiences I've had. Yeah, I get it, DDL is a master of his craft... but the that doesn't make the source material interesting.

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For music (Teague did it, so I can too):

1. I do not and never will get Pink Floyd. There are exactly two songs by them that I like, both off The Wall ("Another Brick in the Wall" and "The Trial"). I just think they're completely overblown, self-indulgent, and dull.

2. In the same vein, I do not care for the Rolling Stones. There are a few songs of theirs that I like, but The Who blow anything by The Stones out of the water, particularly whilst playing live (look up The Who's performance of "A Quick One, While He's Away" at the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus to watch them upstage the Stones at the Stones' own concert).

3. Green Day is my favorite band of all time. Yes, their most recent stuff has been crap, but I'm firmly convinced that American Idiot and Warning are two of the best albums of the last decade.

4. In a similar vein, I love My Chemical Romance's The Black Parade.

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I adore Pink Floyd, so I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. But I am down with you on Green Day and MCR. They both get a lot of undeserved flack and admittedly I was one of those bashers once upon a time.

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I'm with you on The Black Parade, certainly.

How any band responsible for this song can remain unpopular boggles my mind. Liza Minelli is on this track. She's popular, right?!

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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It wasn't until I listened to the whole album that I started to appreciate it. Prior to that, I'd only heard the singles and the earlier albums, so I'd just dismissed The Black Parade as 'typical emo shite'.

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The thing that bugs me the most is the "Green Day aren't real punk! They're sellouts!" First of all, if becoming successful and spreading their music around the world is the definition of sellout, that means that The Clash are just as guilty. Second, Billie Joe Armstrong is quoted as saying "Punk is dead, and I fucking killed it." Green Day has at no time recently claimed to be a punk band anymore, because they're not; their last two albums have been arena rock reminiscent of The Who and Queen, and they're perfectly willing to admit that. I think the whole stupid punk/sellout conflict is summed up perfectly in a quote by Armstrong: "So a guy asks me what punk is. I go over to a trash can, kick it over, and say, 'You want punk? THAT's punk.' So he picks up the trash can and kicks it over himself, and says, 'That's punk?' And I say, 'No, THAT's trendy.'"

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Oh, and Teague, MCR isn't unpopular, exactly; Black Parade went platinum. It's just that they get very little credit outside their own fanbase. Typical music snobbery is the main culprit.

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1. Star Trek V is not that awful. It's pretty bad, but I can enjoy parts of it (although the slapstick humor usually makes me cringe).
2. Star Trek (2009) is enjoyable (much better than Insurrection and Nemesis), but it has serious issues (like Nero's motivation and unnecessary violations of ST canon). Brian really has a point, guys.
3. X2 is not great (discussed recently in the “X-Men” thread).
4. Why do some people hate Spaceballs so fucking much? There's nothing inherently wrong with that kind of farce (although it probably could've been executed better).
5. The best Kevin Smith movie? I'd go with Clerks or Dogma.
6. I love Donnie Darko. I guess it's an European thing...
7. Firefly is not the greatest sci-fi TV show ever. That said, some episodes are really well written (e.g. “Our Mrs. Reynolds”).

So honor the valiant who die 'neath your sword
But pity the warrior who slays all his foes...

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I feel the same way about Star Trek V. Sure, compared to Wrath of Khan it's crap, but I personally actually prefer it to The Undiscovered Country, and *much* prefer it to The Motion Picture. If nothing else--it has Kirk give *God* the finger. C'mon guys, I'm a firm Christian and I find that awesome. The reboot was my first exposure to Star Trek, and while it's definitely full of holes and fridge logicy, I still rank it as my second favorite after Khan. It's definitely a Star *Wars* film, though. On Firefly...while it remains my *favorite* television series, and *one* of the greatest sci-fi series, I'll concede it's not the greatest. That honor goes to either the original Star Trek series or The Twilight Zone.

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Radiohead is awesome. The problem is that they're an album band, not a song band. You can't just say, "Oh, I really like that one Radiohead song, I'll listen to it now." You really have to listen to an album as a whole, and then it really clicks. I was skeptical until I listened to Kid A, and that's a brilliant album.

Also, Teague, Thom Yorke actually has a beautiful singing voice. He's intentionally doing a weird thing with it because he wants the sound of the band to be dissonant and not angelic.

Also, I hated Dredd. Thought it was no different from any other terrible action movie that's out there.

As for my own unpopular opinion, I love the Paranormal Activity movies, even though the internet consensus is that they are all terrible. The fourth one is pretty weak, but the first three are really smart and well-made.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

Radiohead is awesome. The problem is that they're an album band, not a song band. You can't just say, "Oh, I really like that one Radiohead song, I'll listen to it now." You really have to listen to an album as a whole, and then it really clicks.

Totally agreed. I listened to "Paranoid Android" and "Fitter Happier" and enjoyed both well enough. Then I listened to the entire CD of OK Computer and went "Holy crap. This stuff is incredible." It's the same thing with The Who's Tommy. Listen to "Pinball Wizard" or "Sally Simpson", and you'll like them. Listen to the whole LP, and you'll fall in love.

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Darth Praxus wrote:

and *much* prefer it to The Motion Picture

The “Director's Cut” of ST-TMP is much better than the theatrical one (which was basically a rough cut).

On Firefly...while it remains my *favorite* television series, and *one* of the greatest sci-fi series, I'll concede it's not the greatest. That honor goes to either the original Star Trek series or The Twilight Zone.

Both Star Trek and The Twilight Zone were groundbreaking (although they had some really bad episodes). And Firefly's cancellation was premature, it deserved some more episodes (remember Star Trek: The Next Generation? it became really good in the third season...).

So honor the valiant who die 'neath your sword
But pity the warrior who slays all his foes...

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Marty J wrote:

Both Star Trek and The Twilight Zone were groundbreaking (although they had some really bad episodes).

More like a really bad *season* for TOS (although "The Enterprise Incident" from said season is actually one of my faves from the whole show, and feels the most like an episode from an actual television series of any TOS scripts, IMHO.

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8. Blade Runner is good, a real film noir classic. It simply came too late (people were already spoiled by action-oriented sci-fi like Star Wars).
9. 2001: A Space Odyssey was the best sci-fi movie of its time. Even classics like The Day The Earth Stood Still, Forbidden Planet and Planet Of The Apes pale in comparison. And almost all other sci-fi movies of that era were just B-movies.
10. The Core is incredibly campy, but I can enjoy it (especially Stanley Tucci's performance).

So honor the valiant who die 'neath your sword
But pity the warrior who slays all his foes...

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I have tried, on multiple occasions, to like Dr Who. (where the fuck do i start?)

(also don't care much for the Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, the Simpsons, and Star Trek. but whatever)

Maybe I don't like tv shows that aren't children's cartoons.

.. oh yeah, and I think ponies are fucking awesome.

Last edited by MadBadCoyote (2012-11-13 01:56:42)

Protection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love. -Uncle Iroh

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Here's one for all you animation nuts out there: I don't believe that the title of greatest traditionally animated feature goes to any of the Disney Renassaince films (though Beauty and the Beast and Hunchback come close). Rather, the honor goes to Dreamworks' The Prince of Egypt.

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I don't care for a Clockwork Orange, Forest Gump, nor Fargo. And Kevin Smith shits me to tears.

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Oh oh oh, I got one. Chinese Democracy is my favourite Guns N' Roses album.

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I still like the Shrek series, although most people seem to think that it has become passé (it probably depends on quality of the local dub - our Polish dub is hilarious).

Fargo isn't bad, but I find it slightly overrated. The Big Lebowski is my favorite Coen brothers film.

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So honor the valiant who die 'neath your sword
But pity the warrior who slays all his foes...

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Owen Ward wrote:

Oh oh oh, I got one. Chinese Democracy is my favourite Guns N' Roses album.

I am honestly not sure how to respond to that. So I won't. tongue To each his own.

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Aliens is better than Alien. So crucify me.  neutral

not long to go now...

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I've never really enjoyed Star Wars. It's ok, poorly acted. *shrugs*

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