Topic: Aladdin.

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See that? Do you see this girl? Now you try to talk about Aladdin.

Anyway. Many thanks to Steph and the Nerds in Babeland crew for dealing with our bullshit.

Teague Chrystie

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So you're saying there was too much lamp rubbing?

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I'm saying Steph is a diamond in the rough.

/end aladdin puns

Teague Chrystie

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Just watched Waking Sleeping Beauty last night.  Damn amazing.

Eddie Doty

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I'm six minutes in and you've already repeated unsubstantiated ugly rumors about two popular public figures. Somewhere, Snopes is weeping.

EDIT: Disney and Michael Jackson. Disney fixed his cartoons after getting complaints about ethnic stereotype gags; George Lucas hasn't done that. And Jackson was clearly just being blackmailed by fraudsters.

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Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Hitler and Walt Disney?

Teague Chrystie

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Yeah, that documentary cleared up why there were the errors in Rescuers Down Under (a movie I really like). At least twice the eagle feather is in the wrong place/vanishes or is in the wrong layer of the background. The fact they were digitally composing everything and under a time crunch and still learning makes it more understandable (it's the type of thing you expect in anime but not a Disney film)

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Carpet is definitely CG. I vividly remember seeing a special at some point when this movie was released about how they did the 3D effects in this movie, and Carpet was a big deal at the time because he was basically the first major CG character in a movie, even though he was basically just a flat texture that moved around.

CG Carpet effects are discussed toward the end. They had a guy animate the carpet on paper, then replaced the carpet with a CG texture while keeping the tassels (and it's not mentioned, but I think they also left in the drawing of the carpet in a lot of shots to help it blend in with the rest of the film). The other parts of that documentary are interesting, especially the last few where they interview a bunch of people in one large round-table sort of way.
Alternate Endings

Some other related links:
The Roger Rabbit screen test that was mentioned in the podcast (I think?)
Earliest example I can think of of CG and 2D animation used in combination
3D in The Great Mouse Detective, Oliver & Company and The Rescuers Down Under, which were all pre-Beauty & The Beast films. I can't recall any notable CG from Little Mermaid, though the ending sequence where the ship impales Ursula might have used some. I think that CG was used very well in The Rescuers especially. I'm not a huge fan of Beauty and the Beast's CG, mainly because it's so frickin obvious. I don't think people noticed it in Rescuers because it fit in really well and didn't draw attention to itself (there are several subtle uses of it, beyond the truck sequence), whereas in Beauty it looks obviously like CG and sticks out in most of the shots it's used in.

I kinda liked Aladdin, I guess. What I don't get is why all of these so-called "kids" movies end up with romantic plots. I mean, maybe I'm weird, but when I was like 6 or 8 or so, I wasn't really all that interested in romantic shit. I dunno, tho, maybe girls dig romance when they're 8, but I sure as hell didn't. I think that might be why Lion King did so well. There's not really any romance shit in that movie. There's two kids who hang out together, they grow up apart and they do sort of fall in love at the end, but it's not a major plotline or anything. It's just background, character building stuff. With this movie and all of their other 'princess' movies, the whole plot involves a character in love with another character and them trying to win that character's love in return. Why in the hell would anyone want to write shit like that for kids?

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Oh, yeah, I was never truly on the Jackson is a pedophile bandwagon. I just make the joke when the joke is there. smile

Teague Chrystie

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The leads of Princess and the Frog were unknowns, BUT Zachary Levi and Mandy Moore are in Disney's latest, Tangled, and they both sing their own parts. They're good, too. Tangled is fantastic, by the way, with awesome music from, wait for it, Alan Menken!

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Blech, TANGLED. Did not care for that one.

I think it was the smirking postmodern attitude that marred it for me -- it was like watching Dreamworks trying to do old-school Disney rather than Disney stretching its arms to embrace a new medium.

The animation work overall was stellar and the animal characters were quite funny -- although Pascal ran out of things to do between midpoint and climax -- but aside from "When Will My Life Begin," the songs fell flat for me ("Mother Knows Best" pales beside "Poor Unfortunate Souls") and the dialogue was almost physically painful at times.

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The "quid pro quo" line was the genie imitating  William Buckley, conservative writer and late host of the TV show Firing Line. Can't believe you kids didn't know that...

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I have a question for Teague. Did you ever establish what the animated movie was that you were thinking about? With a weird looking castle going up into the sky? People in the chat room suggested Gargoyles but I think you were spot on when you said 'Huey, Dewey and Louie, maybe?' I think it was Duck Tales: The Movie.

It's about 8 minutes in.

I know it was ages ago, but I forgot you said it till I re-listened to the commentary. If t has been answered, I apologise.

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SHIFTY FOR THE WIN

THANK YOU SIR

Teague Chrystie

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You're welcome, mate. Better late than never eh?

I love Duck Tales big_smile

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Re-listening to this commentary, I'm going to give another shameless plug to Twisted, for anyone who hasn't seen it but is interested in a Wicked-style Aladdin parody. They touch on so many things that you mention in your commentary, including the "cut off your ear because they don't like your face" line, a running gag that nobody understands the Genie's pop culture quotes, and a hilarious callback at the end to the opening scene with the old guy telling the tale. Not to mention secondary storyline about Disney vs Pixar, and their opening number "Dream a Little Harder" that includes the lyric "If you're good and you're attractive, no need to be proactive, good things will just happen to you!" which pretty much encapsulates a lot of the Disney oeuvre.

The trailer is here, the whole thing is on YouTube. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgINfwAZNAY

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RIP Robin Williams

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Good Morning Vietnam was the only live action movie of his I really liked, I think. Certainly no others come to mind. Usually I just avoided his stuff as they didn't look like something I was interested in. Always liked him, though. His old standup concerts are on Youtube.

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His stand up was a brutally honest form of comedy that I found rather entertaining. Enjoyed Mrs. Doubtfire, Jumanji (to a point), Bicentennial Man (in small doses) and Patch Adams. He had a guest spot on Law and Order: SVU in which he played a man who was a domestic terrorist (of sorts) and enjoyed psychological games.

However, Aladdin was always my favorite, and probably the first film that made me pause and recognize the actor behind the voice. I was amazed by his talent from then on.

Also, seeing him do improv work on Whose Line Is It Anyway was another wonderful showcase of his comedic talent.

He will be missed sad

God loves you!

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I love Aladdin, but for me his most memorable roles were Dead Poets' Society and Good Will Hunting.

Good Will Hunting has been my favourite movie ever since I first saw it, and remains so to this day. Not because I think it's the best movie ever, it has its flaws and there are parts I don't love, but man, something about that movie just gets me every single time.

"Oh Captain, my Captain" somehow sums it up best for me. So very, very sad.

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everythingshiny wrote:

Good Will Hunting has been my favourite movie ever since I first saw it, and remains so to this day. Not because I think it's the best movie ever, it has its flaws and there are parts I don't love, but man, something about that movie just gets me every single time.

It's entrancing. I can't say I have one favorite movie, but if we're playing desert island, GWH would likely be on my list.

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