Topic: Suckerpunch

I'm not sure if there's already a thread on this, a search didn't turn up anything obvious.

Watched this for the first time tonight on Blurry and while this is by no means a perfectly put together film, and I can see why it didn't do well at the box office, kinda loved it.

Before launching into a discussion here, is this going to be covered by an episode in the near future?

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I think it was mentioned during one of the other shows that they'd have to tackle this one eventually just because it's one of those movies that you can either embrace it's weirdness and love it to death or you can't and you hate it with a passion. I haven't seen it, myself. It sounds like something I'd like, tho.

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I share your opinion, Fixedy.

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We're going to try, but I bet we, like the film, run out of things to say about 15 minutes in.

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I got bored with it, and I was watching it on a night flight while wide awake with nothing else to do. And I can be quite hard to bore when you're waving around the bouncy ladies and the steampunk Nazis.

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I think one of the biggest mistakes you can make with Suckerpunch is to watch is as if it's a western film. It's not; it's pure Asian cinema. And I can see how that's kind of a problem, all things considered.

<edit> Maggot1300 and I were talking about Pan's Labyrinth last night and have a similar opinion on that as well (although, that's not Korean Cinema with hot white girls). </edit>

Last edited by Dave (2011-08-11 21:58:35)

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I definitely agree. I thought even as we were watching, "if this were an anime, it would've been huge." I also agree that this is basically identical to PAN'S LABYRINTH, with many of the same problems (i.e. the fantasy sequences have no stakes or relation to the main plot), and it just didn't manage to fool as many people into thinking it's deep.

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Sucker Punch had no interest in depth; methinks Mr. Snyder was geeking out and making a tribute to the things he loves in cinema.

Yes, the fantasy sequences should have had a through line and been shorter, the voice overs should have been scrapped, young Freddie Mercury should have been presented differently, and the film should have ended with the hammer blow.

And *still* I heart what this film is trying to do. I love the producers for getting it made, and while they won't make a huge return on the investment it will certainly make it's money back. It grossed $90 million worldwide from the box office, the DVD, rental, broadcast will pick up the rest.

The result is have this wonderful, terrible film replete with thigh-high stockings, short skits and swords. It's carved a special place in my collection for sheer fucking audacity.

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Dorkman wrote:

I definitely agree. I thought even as we were watching, "if this were an anime, it would've been huge."

Oh, I don't know. All attempts to put actual anime into theaters has flopped box office wise, so I suspect Suckerpunch did about as well as something like that could do. Now, maybe it could have gotten more of a sustained fanboy/cult audience as anime, but then again as an anime it wouldn't be considered anything special where as a live action film it stands out.

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Maybe the film would have had a bigger audience (people rewatching it and bringing along newbies) if the ending hadn't been such a downer. Yes I can appreciate that "upon closer examination the ending made sense and the whole purpose of their journey was to free the only freeable person, blah blah blah"... or something like that, or even nothing like that. But looking at the movie as simply a collection of sexy ladies engaing in a whole bunch of elaborately coreagraphed(?) fantasy fight scence - which sometimes that's what I'm in the mood for - I was rooting for them all to escape, thinking that's what would happen, then within the span of ~5mins, 3 had died (1 stabbed, 2 shot), and the main heroine left a brain dead zombie (wtf); the only one escaping being the one of the group I'd been least interested in.

Was it too much to give us (well me) a happy/ cheerful ending? sad

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...it's called Sucker Punch, dude.

EDIT: Maybe we should have little dumpling episodes of DIF that aren't commentaries, but twenty or thirty minute conversational reviews of movies. I don't think we'll get around to Sucker Punch any time soon, but it'd be a shoe-in for a conversation like that.

Teague Chrystie

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^ By that rationale, Bitch Slap should have had a similarly depressing ending, right ?!

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Teague wrote:

EDIT: Maybe we should have little dumpling episodes of DIF that aren't commentaries, but twenty or thirty minute conversational reviews of movies. I don't think we'll get around to Sucker Punch any time soon, but it'd be a shoe-in for a conversation like that.

Wasn't there an entire thread devoted to that very concept not to long ago?

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Maybe a regular old talky-talk podcast where the panel just talks about movies / random stuff for a half hour or something. Wouldn't have to be a regular thing, just once in a while. Whenever something worth talking about pops up, but not worth talking about for two full hours of commentary.

I wouldn't want you guys to burn out on talking about movies and stuff, tho. When it becomes too much like work it stops being fun.

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Yeah, you guys kinda seem to put off some movies because you don't think you can talk for two hours. So why should you? Just talk until you run out of stuff and then say bye.

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