That's the worst part about it, instead of understanding and emphasizing the things that make Star Trek good and likable, they almost completely throw it out, do the opposite (which makes it just another generic blockbuster), but then sprinkle in all this fan-wank throughout to try to win Trek fans back over. Instead of trying to make a movie that lives up to the legacy of the series, they say fuck the series, but think we're stupid enough that a couple references will win us over.

I'm annoyed by the ignoring of some laws of physics, and like I said, I can enjoy both as Star Trek equally, but that is for the characters and their relationships rather than just the action beats. So, the dynamics between the characters, especially Admiral Marcus, is more compelling to me.
Honestly, you could take the space jump and Enterprise in the ocean out, and I would enjoy the movie more.

I think that part of the problem is people not just looking at TOS but also DS9, VOY and ENT, all of which i think show a starship in atmosphere regardless of aerodynamics.

But, I'll not argue with a old school Trek fan

I tried getting through that review, Marty, but just wasn't impressed with it.
I maintain, in case I didn't say it in this thread, that if this movie were what the reviewer said it was, then it would not work on any level. And maybe for some people this is true.

Personally, I find the characters working very well in this film so I forgive some of the silliness or mindless action bits. Perhaps I'm too forgiving and not willing to take off the rose colored glasses, I'm not sure.

I just feel this movie deserves more credit in some places.