Topic: The Hobbit Trailer

What y'all think?

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My initial reaction, from someone's Facebook wall, slightly edited:

I've been reading the set visits on AICN and everything, been super psyched, withholding judgment on the 48fps thing and all...but man. That trailer just sucked. The tone was all over the place, with weird (reading a letter?) narration for a second, then being a wacky unformed joke with...slightly difficult to swallow makeup, then a song, then trying to be epic over warm-and-unepic music, then sudden Gollum, and shitty title effects.

The hell?

I need to watch it a few more times so it's less of a shock to the system. I'm still excited, but, I seem to be in the minority for whom this trailer missed the mark.

Teague Chrystie

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I'm excited enough about the film that I'm basically traler-proof, but I agree with TheMargarineman.

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If you're referring to the quote above, it isn't from me, I think it's Teague's. But I agree as well, I'm a huge fan of Tolkien and the LOTR movies so I just ended up brushing this trailer off.

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Oh I see now. Teague was quoting himself.

STOP AGREEING WITH YOURSELF TEAGUE. YOU'LL GO BLIND.

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I like having multiple points of data.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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I would not classify myself as a LOTR fan, and yet I couldn't wipe the grin off my face while watching this trailer.


- Branco

PS -- 48fps is stupid, and this should have been shot on film.

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Great, another movie about walking!

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I'll admit to being one who's initial exposure to the Lord of the Rings & the Hobbit wasn't actually the books, which as an avid reader looking back is admittedly odd, but the original animated Rankin/Bass feature.

I jury-rigged my dads stereo setup to take the vcr's audio out, and made myself an audiotape of the whole thing, to enjoy the music that was made from the books songs.

As such, the moment of the songs appearance just took me back to those days, and definitely took the trailer where it needed to go for me to strike a nerve.

I will agree that they were really trying to fit a large amount of things into a relatively short trailer, the callbacks (or would it be call-forwards) to set pieces of the LOTR films in one or two spots was a little on the nose, but workable.

Overall, I am excited. I had been trying to avoid much of the hype, as it is still now a full year away, but ... damn it.

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I look at trailers in a way that is possibly different from other people. I don't actually care much about the specific stuff happening in the trailer, cause that stuff is taken out of context. Something that looks like it would be an awesome, epic moment or scene in the trailer could be very underwhelming and dumb in the movie, and stuff that looks dumb in the trailer could end up being brilliant in the film.

What I generally tend to look for is the ratio of stuff they're putting in there. Look at the trailer for Wrath of the Titans:

The whole trailer is made up of shots of action sequences or over-the-top dramatic shots of a single character doing something 'bad-ass' in slow motion, usually with a lower angle. It looks like they came up with stuff that would look sweet in a trailer and then wrote around that to kinda cram a plot into the movie somewhere. It looks like the story part of the movie was secondary to getting awesome trailer shots.

The same thing holds true for GI Joe: Retaliation and Battleship, the transformers movies, etc. You can tell those movies are going to suck balls because the trailer is nothing but epic slow-motion shots all quick-cut together to some slick music and none of those shots show any real character or plot going on. It's trailers with nothing but stuff happening. "Stuff Happens: The Movie", as I call them.

This trailer, and, say, the trailer for The Dark Knight Rises have a lot of shots of people kinda talking to each other and more of a sense that there's a story going on, and that the story is more than an excuse to have people fight giant robots or giant monsters or whatever. The draw of the movie is going to be the story and the characters and not, for instance, the one shot where Bane blows up the football field, or the shot here where the dwarves fight the trolls.

Probably could have cut together a better trailer, tonally, but I don't think this one is particularly bad. It gives me more hope for this film than, say, the trailer for Wrath of the Titans gives me for that film.

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I like it. I've been cautiously optimistic since they started, because this didn't need two movies and is no doubt padded with 'new stuff', which Jackson and Co aren't nearly as good as they think they are at doing. This looks to continue the subtlety level of LOTR, which is to say it's not.

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The first thing I thought was, "please let me like Bilbo".  Which I think I did.  The next thought was, "please let me like the dwarves".  The results to that were mixed.  It ultimately comes down to whether or not I'm going to be able to set aside my attachment to the LOTR characters.  If I can, I'm not worried.

I'll add that I've never more instantly liked a character in a movie than I did those of Merry and Pippen.

I always thought a fun character writing exercise would be, ala "Name That Tune", trying to make an audience like/care about a character in as few lines of dialogue, actions, scenes as possible.  For example, Jack Sparrow standing on top of a mast looking cool and in control.  Cut to him jumping down from said mast and looking worried, as we realize he's actually in a sinking dinghy.  Those two actions were all I needed to like him. 

*I know nothing about sailing so I apologize if ships don't have "masts", or come in dinghy form.  I'm also disappointed that I didn't get to use the word "nigh" in that explanation.  I'll add fifteen minutes to my self-flagellation session.

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The Hobbit is one of those stories I'm so familiar with that I won't have much problem with bastardizations. It's just always been there, like the Bible, and not to be treated like gospel smile The Rankin/Bass TV movie came out when I was in 4th or 5th grade, and the teachers showed it to us in class at some point (home VCRs were nonexistent in my world, so this was all still magic). At some point I picked up a two record album with the complete soundtrack, dialog and all, which I still have. A year later the elementary school play was a teacher written adaptation of the book, with fun new songs- the battle of five armies was done to the tune of "10 little indians" as the dwarves got killed off.

All I'll ask from the film is that they keep the sense of wonder. It's a KIDS story, about leaving home for the first time and seeing the wonders of the world... then coming home again.

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If you don't like that trailer, you'll really dislike the Russian version of the hobbit from the 80s:

http://www.slashfilm.com/watch-1984-rus … he-hobbit/

As a Russian Speaker, I actually kinda dig the cheesy low-budget hilarity of it I have to say (its also EXTREMELY faithful to the dialogue, its almost word-for-word from the text).
Around 20 minutes in, they sing the song from the trailer, if you want to compare the Russian/English versions of the Dwarf song.

Also has an awesome narrator that's like a cross between Dennis Farina and Sean Connery

Last edited by bullet3 (2011-12-23 07:30:51)

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